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Offline cuprum

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #15 on: 06 April 2010, 10:41:53 AM »
Thank you!
This drew I.
My profession - a polygraphic designer.
Pleased to help!
On banner inscription:
"With oppressed against oppressors!"
 "Liberty or death!" - "Black guard"
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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #16 on: 06 April 2010, 06:48:22 PM »
A nice flag
If you come for the king, you better not miss (Omar)

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #17 on: 06 April 2010, 09:56:43 PM »
Thank you!
This drew I.
My profession - a polygraphic designer.
Pleased to help!
On banner inscription:
"With oppressed against oppressors!"
 "Liberty or death!" - "Black guard"

Thank you, cuprum:) I will definitely make use of this.

If you plan to sell the Austin-Putilov outside Russia, please let me know. I, also, would like to buy one!

-Doc

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #18 on: 08 April 2010, 09:17:44 AM »
Banner to armies Buhary for basmachi
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« Last Edit: 08 October 2010, 05:43:35 AM by cuprum »

Offline cuprum

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #19 on: 13 April 2010, 11:17:49 AM »
My reconstruction of the banner 1 Barnauliskoy mouths "Red guard" (the Siberia).
The Photo of the banner:


reconstruction:
[img [/img]http://[img[/img]
The Text:
"1 Barnauliskaya company to Red guard"
"From worker of Red guard appeared powerful Red army. We shall Perish, but shall win!"
« Last Edit: 08 October 2010, 05:44:11 AM by cuprum »

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #20 on: 13 April 2010, 01:36:59 PM »
 :o

Just got aware of this thread...
looking for RCW-flag for days. Think, I have to visit LAF more often  ::)

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #21 on: 13 April 2010, 01:45:51 PM »
Thank you!
This drew I.
My profession - a polygraphic designer.
Pleased to help!
On banner inscription:
"With oppressed against oppressors!"
 "Liberty or death!" - "Black guard"

Very cool.

Tell me, cuprum, I looked at on of your links and found a curious Siberian flag with a Christian cross over a crecent moon. Looked like quite a melange. I tried to run the website through babelfish (since I don't read Russian) but turned out mostly gobbledigook. Could you explain that flag?

Offline cuprum

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #22 on: 14 April 2010, 03:28:18 AM »
This symbol?

The Crescent with ancient timeses was shown by state sign Byzantine, and only after 1453, when Konstantinopol was will take the turk, this christian symbol became the official allegory Osman empires. The tsarist power symbolized In orthodox Byzantine crescent.Means that temple this belongs to Reign all reigning and Gentlemen all dominating.
Is it Often used in orthodox symbology in such combination with cross. To islam relations has not.




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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #23 on: 14 April 2010, 08:24:57 AM »
This symbol?

The Crescent with ancient timeses was shown by state sign Byzantine, and only after 1453, when Konstantinopol was will take the turk, this christian symbol became the official allegory Osman empires. The tsarist power symbolized In orthodox Byzantine crescent.Means that temple this belongs to Reign all reigning and Gentlemen all dominating.
Is it Often used in orthodox symbology in such combination with cross. To islam relations has not.


Thanks for sharing your insights!

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #24 on: 14 April 2010, 03:51:24 PM »
Spassiba, Cuprum.

I have often wondered about the combination of symbols, as it occurs frequently in Polish Seventeenth Century flags. What makes it (still) a mystery is that the Poles were Catholic and not Orthodox.

As well, westerners think that the 6-pointed star is a Jewish symbol. Can you explain how it fits in with Christian symbols in the flag?

Again, the 6-pointed star is frequently featured on Polish flags in the 1600's.

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #25 on: 15 April 2010, 03:47:38 AM »
In east regions of Poland even now 1000000 orthodox believers. In a XVII-th century and some Polish magnates were orthodox, besides, the structure of Poland included orthodox Ukraine. So use of orthodox symbolics in Poland is quite pertinent.
 
The six-final star is used in Orthodoxy on a level with eight-final, as an image of the Bethlehem star, a symbol Presvjatoj of the Virgin, a sign on wisdom of God and perfection of Its creations, unities of the sky and the earth.
This symbol is known since antiquated times when it expressed hope of people of occurrence of the Savior.

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #26 on: 15 April 2010, 04:06:09 AM »
Thanks again. That was very helpful.

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #27 on: 17 April 2010, 03:57:46 AM »
In east regions of Poland even now 1000000 orthodox believers.

Technically they are "Uniate" or "Eastern Catholic". They acknowledge the Pope, and so they are often lumped with the Catholics, which tends to keep them from view from us in the West. But they keep to Orthodox liturgy and practices -- their clergy marry, for example. So they are Orthodox in most senses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches

If you drive through east Poland you will often see two churches beside each other in the towns -- one a Roman Catholic and the other the Orthodox "Catholic".

Very big in the Ukraine too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Catholic_Church

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #28 on: 02 May 2010, 01:59:00 AM »
No mark, they are not - yo uare mixing so called Greko-Catholic with Russian Orthodox ( "Prawoslawni" ). Cuprum most likely meant the latter.

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Re: RCW Flags
« Reply #29 on: 02 May 2010, 03:04:04 AM »
No mark, they are not - yo uare mixing so called Greko-Catholic with Russian Orthodox ( "Prawoslawni" ). Cuprum most likely meant the latter.

According to an old Ukrainian-Canadian girlfriend I had back in the '80's, there are still emigre families from L'vov who feud over the Orthodox-Catholic schism to this day.

 

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