Germans uniforms in greece

[David]

Hi 
What Germans uniforms 1941, that was used in greece?
Does anybody make the correct figures for greece
Any good books on this for german uniforms
Thanks for your help
David

[argsilverson]

I think you mean the campaign against greece, which started April 6, 1941 and finished with the battle of Crete.
There was the german occupation which lasted until 1945.

Germans used their normal uniforms, with shirt sleeves rolled at some point. The germans paraded in Athens the first day had their normal (winter) uniform.
There is also some photos showing parachutists in Crete (remember campaing in crete was on May & June, so, warm weather) with shorts and summer dres i.e. khaki coloured.

Parachutists are easily found as well the infantry. I think that the gerbigsjaeger in miniature are only in heavy winter gear i.e. out of place. See to find miniatures with sleeves rolled and GJ in their cap but in plain uniforms no winter ones.

British and commonwealth units also are easily found.
The great problem is greek troops.

[David]

Greeks is not a problem 
Got them maded to fight my italion, cost me a wee bit , but i wanted them .
I have the first 8  figures done and a master made, I should have the rest done for a section soon( july/Aug  )
I have painted the first eight and just going to check i have painted them correct before i display them, otherwise i will get shot down and ribbed.
David

[argsilverson]

Greeks is not a problem 
Got them maded to fight my italion, cost me a wee bit , but i wanted them .
I have the first 8  figures done and a master made, I should have the rest done for a section soon( july/Aug  )
I have painted the first eight and just going to check i have painted them correct before i display them, otherwise i will get shot down and ribbed.
David

always interested in them. Is there any pics?
Tips:
You may use Tiger miniatures Balkan wars range Greeks for: gendarmerie, cadets in Crete, change of head add adrian helmet (french) and have units of the that fought in the metaxa line, add adrian helmet (Italian) and have infantry (in the warmer fronts. For officers again use Tiger miniatures in kepi or convert them in english officers peaked caps.

Where are you from???

[argsilverson]

A good google search will bring you some good photos of the germans.

here is the link for greek army:
http://www.army.gr/multimedia/stoles/stoles/stoles10.htm

Ah evzones: Tiger miniatures as they are the newer uniform of course.

[Arlequín]

otherwise i will get shot down and ribbed.

We don't go in for that here, worst that would happen is that someone might offer some constructive criticism, or offer a few hints or tips. You could of course just show the masters before painting, always a popular move.
 
 

[David]

Thanks for the link
Still think i need a new camera for better detail

[argsilverson]

As far as I could see, they are interesting!

What is the last one an infantryman or an evzone?

[carlos marighela]

Actually, they look rather good and its not really an army that's well supported by miniature makers. I suspect you should be able to sell a few of those and if nothing else defray the cost of the sculpts.

[Arlequín]

They do look rather good, particularly in the moustache department! 

[David]

the last one an infantryman loading.
the pictures are not great need a better camera for detail.
They were made for the campain in north greece to fight the italions/germans, from oct 1940 to april 1941 winter time.
the figures were design from black and white picture of the time.

[bluewillow]

they look good david, are they 28mm or 20mm?

cheers
Matt

[David]

they are 28mm figures, to fight my bolt action Italions.
Getting the colour right was the hard bit, but there seem to be different shades of green/brown uniforms from difference sites.
I used this site to be the correct colour for the uniforms.
http://ww2greece.wargaming.info/index.htm

[argsilverson]

they are 28mm figures, to fight my bolt action Italions.
Getting the colour right was the hard bit, but there seem to be different shades of green/brown uniforms from difference sites.
I used this site to be the correct colour for the uniforms.
http://ww2greece.wargaming.info/index.htm

the link is to to a site owned by one of my friends (just realised when I noticed the names). Actually the photos are "reenactment" ones shooted for a magazine that used to circulate some years ago. As for the miniatures, they are very good, as I can see, due to size of the photos.
If I were you I could try to have some minis with a couple of charging figures in greatcoat. Most of the greek italian batlles were taken place in severe winter since the war started on 28.10.1940 in mountainous terrain. It is reported also that the winter (i.e. snow) started particularly early in this year and already by October all mountains were snow covered. However during battle it was not unlikely that soldiers discharged their greatcoats for extra mobility.

As fot the colour uniform: It is quite obscure. Officially it was described as khaki. You see the link I send you is the official greek army site and shows them green but usually they were a little more brown ot tabac, as in the photos you linked. The drawings were made by Y.Mylonas curator of the Athens war Museum. In general your miniatures look very well painted and I am happy with the colours on them.
I will try to find some other photos to send you.
I also believe that there will be some potential in selling the figures.

[David]

The main problem with the dress for campain, from what i have seen is they could be in full kit or snow sheet cover? or light battle order?
The main problem is the little information in English and i could only find one book on this campain
i went for this look which should cover most of the campain. and ease if I want to convert them.
The SMG and VB launcher is next and minor mods to some of the figure done eg moustache etc
this will complete the section up to Platoon level.
Then support weapons etc charging figures in greatcoat ?
This is the best picture i have found so far