WHFB 8

[joroas]

Damn, I'm getting splinters from sitting on this fence..........

[rob_the_robgoblin]

Yeah, I *think* I want it, but I really can't tell...

[Dewbakuk]

IF you were to switch to the new edition (and there's no reason you have to), there's nothing to stop you playing smaller games. They've just upped the 'average' play level, which in reality changes nothing for any given gaming group unless they want it too.

I've cut down to 2 armies for Warhammer and 1 for 40k and all those armies can be used elsewhere. I dislike the 40k rules, I just don't think it's a very good game at all. Warhammer had bored me (and rendered on of my armies useless) but from what I'm being told of the new edition, I'm getting interested again. My only dissapointment is they didn't make archers more useful, I'd have liked to see the WAB archer rules put into WFB, as lines of archers is really unwieldy and awkward in a game.

[Terrible Tim]

My suggestion is to stop playing for a while (at least 12 months), don't sell any models. Then play again and see if your interest is re-sparked. It has work for me. I have been playing since 1st, but I have had few breaks. I have always been keen after a break. Play Hordes for 12 months and then return - WH will always be there.

[joroas]

There will be a boxed set with High Elves and Skaven, so no guesses as to the new Army Books and model ranges.

[Viper]

I think you'll find that's the other way round, the rules were finished a long time ago and the figures will be put in around that. The 3 model per rank rule for 40mm bases was a much needed 'fix' from the last edition. Forcing a unit of Ogres to be 5 wide in two ranks before it starts to get any of it's bonuses made the army practically useless. I played with my Ogre army once in the last edition before shelving it, and those Ogre armies that I did see used were essentially Gnoblar armies with a few Ogres in it. I'm looking forward to the new edition.

Well in addition to that they've also all got extra attacks on the charge and stuff too. I guess it kinda started with the "giant for every army thing" then as they released more big monsters and started planning the new edition they though hey lets make them a choice so good EVERYONE will buy them.
 

I'm kinda a year or two into my first propper break after like 15 years of gaming with the evil empire, the only reason I really stuck with it so long were friends who played and only having a GW store to play in no clubs. Playing a LOT of "specialist games" kept me going too, till they got restricted to one night a week and only the one specialist game they say you could play in that block of weeks.
That's because our unorganised pick up games were too popular with other people in the store and caused the store to lose sales on the "core" games.
 

Aaanyway I digress, so far new fantasy isn't really drawing me back at all, though it isn't flat out pushing me away like the last edition of 40k did. Still weighing up returning to the local GW store versus getting off my arse making some scenery and having friends round to game though.

[Doomsdave]

I thought the last edition boxed sets were really good value but in a couple of years they went from $50US to $82.50US.  That's just being ridiculous.  In addition the hardbound books always fall apart. All my other books last a lifetime, but the binding on these is so horrible, how can I justify the price tag?  The new gear does look good and the return to card driven magic is nice, but they just appear to be recycling stuff from earlier editions hoping the newest fanbois don't remember.

[Peter pumkinhead]

8th edition may get me back into large fantasy games but i think i will wait until the small rulebooks are on ebay as i don't need another catalogue of GW figures.
The rules look more like warhammer historiocal/LotR now

[Luthaaren Von Tegale]

Talking to one of the guys in the local GW on saturday - apparently there's a big "how to assemble you plastic figures" section in the new rule book as well as how to set up the table top etc.
Units will be larger too - going to the old school idea of 30-50 figures per unit - more figure sales as has already been said.

Until I heard that and then saw the price tag I was tempted by 8th - but at the end of the day unless you play tournaments or in the store why bother upgrading anyway? And if the local gamers upgrade - read their rulebook!

If you just want a game of warhammer stick with the edition you have, I have 1st to 5th with 4th/5th being used most often.

The new box set will allegedly have High Elves and Skaven - real pity, if it was orcs and empire i'd have got one or two.

vT

[OSHIROmodels]

There will be a boxed set with High Elves and Skaven, so no guesses as to the new Army Books and model ranges.

Skaven have just had their release (I should know, I bought a load  )

I heard it was Dark Elves from somewhere, don't see the point in that myself so I'd go with High Elves.

EYE CANDY     

cheers

James

[Spong]

"the heyday for me of GW was in the early-to-mid 90's when you had:... "

Yeah, and didn't they start losing money then? Not to mention these games "tragic deaths" kept them from feature bloat like most long supported games. And most of them are free in the form of 'living rule books' that the fans have had a hand in, some like EPIC Armageddon are even getting more army lists from fan playtesters.

I don't play their games much, I'm just tired of the $$$$$$EVIL EMPIRE$$$$$$!!!!!!!! B.S.

Actually I would argue the reason they started losing so much money was insisting on opening a store in every single backwater town across the globe.

[joroas]

I heard it was Dark Elves from somewhere, don't see the point in that myself so I'd go with High Elves.

Wayland's site says High Elves........

[OSHIROmodels]

Fair enough, I heard it from someone who said they got it of Bell of Lost Souls   

cheers

James

(go on, you know you want to )

[Doomsdave]

It seems like all their rules lately are driven by the "buy a metric pantload of miniatures" philosophy.  That War of the Ring ruleset looked like they were warhammerizing LOTR.  I think LOTR was their best game.  Then they put it on steroids to sell more figs, fair enough it's a business, however they appear to be doing the same with 40K and now WH. 

[Dolmot]

The new gear does look good and the return to card driven magic is nice, but they just appear to be recycling stuff from earlier editions hoping the newest fanbois don't remember.

While I'm currently keeping myself a barge pole distance away from anything GWish too, isn't this a bit of a "darned if you do" argument (with the usual "fanboi" decoration on top)? The most common sentiment seems to be that everything was better back then. Now if something from that golden age is reintroduced, that is evil too. Not so simple to please some people?