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Offline doublenot7

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #15 on: 21 October 2011, 04:24:53 AM »
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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #16 on: 21 October 2011, 12:17:40 PM »
I think it's the more accurate version too, it tallies pretty much with the contemporary newspaper reports I've read.

It's much, much more accurate than the 40s, 50s and 60s attempts, which are purely imaginary (because if you're setting up the gun fight as the climax of your picture, the real one is rather anti-climactic), but it isn't quite right. Though admittedly it would be almost impossible to reconstruct the fight without a time machine as nobody seems to agree on who shot first, or who exactly shot whom, or which guy was holding the reins of the horse (was it Tom or Frank McLaury?) or whether Tom McLaury was actually armed or not (his gun was found in a hotel a block or more away and no weapon that could be associated with him was found at the scene) and therefore was he an active participant in the fight or merely gunned down in cold blood by the Earps? The partisanship of the witnesses, and contradictions in the statements of supposedly neutral witnesses leave all these questions open.

But anyway, after pleading that he wasn't armed, Ike Clanton fled the scene of the real fight. The movie has him take Johnny Behan's gun and exchange gunfire with the Earps from inside the photo studio. That's made up. He ran and kept running.

Billy Claiborne's presence at the corral is either ignored or played down in the movie. He, like Ike, claimed to be unarmed and fled the scene. Instead, it has a character called Barnes (played by the guy who was the radio DJ in 'Northern Exposure') and another unnamed cowboy you hardly notice scarper out of there. Maybe that other guy is meant to be Claiborne. He is named in the credits, played by an actor called "Wyatt Earp", oddly enough.  ???

Tom McLaury staggered across the street after being shot before collapsing wounded, and Frank tried to flee the fight and also crossed the street. Doc Holliday pursued him and shot him down. Neither Tom McLaury nor Billy Clanton died at the scene, both were moved to a nearby house where they died later on that day.

Whether Wyatt had the Buntline Special at the gunfight (or at all, ever) is something I'm not even going to go into, it will give me a headache.

So, apart from all that, it's pretty good.  ;) I like most of the other films mentioned, but none of them approach Tombstone's coolness really, do they? It just has a certain something going for it.


Something I never noticed until recently is that the troublesome Faro dealer who Wyatt humiliates early on ("you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?") is none other than Billy Bob Thornton. I guess he wasn't famous at the time, hence the retroactive recognition.
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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #17 on: 21 October 2011, 12:23:28 PM »
I think it was Billy Bob Thornton's pie eating twin brother  lol 
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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #18 on: 21 October 2011, 12:32:34 PM »
I think it was Billy Bob Thornton's pie eating twin brother  lol 

Don't Thornton's make very nice chocolates. There's a pattern forming here ;) lol
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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #19 on: 21 October 2011, 01:39:07 PM »
Tombstone for me to , the actors all seem to gel on screen and are believable

Costner at his laconic best!!

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #20 on: 21 October 2011, 02:04:33 PM »
Costner isn't in 'Tombstone.'  That's taking 'laconic' to a whole new level: not only not saying much, or even not saying anything at all, but not even being there!  :) ???
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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #21 on: 21 October 2011, 03:39:47 PM »
oops :'(

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #22 on: 21 October 2011, 03:43:26 PM »
i know he wasnt in deadwood.......... lol

aaanyway i enjoy him being in cowboy persona.......

in or not in Tombstone...........bet he wish he had been ;)

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #23 on: 21 October 2011, 03:49:01 PM »
I like his Wyatt Earp picture. It's just not quite as memorable as Tombstone. But it certainly is a good film, with some smashing performances, especially by Dennis Quaid.

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #24 on: 21 October 2011, 04:32:57 PM »
thats the one.........right era wrong film ,i tip my hat to yr knowledge of the period.... :) ;) o_o 8)

now if you want the names of the 108 polish lancers ar Waterloo im yr man!!

seriously i loved the film........Mr quiad was perfect judged in his performance

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Re: Best version of the shootout at the OK Corral.
« Reply #25 on: 21 October 2011, 10:40:16 PM »
Malamute,
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