Defiance Games USMC Marines!

[Geudens]

My only note of sadness about any of this is that Howard Whitehouse is caught up with them, again. If only for his sake I'd like to see this succeed.

Howard, a true gent, no doubt!

[carlos marighela]

I've not had the pleasure of meeting Howard or witnessing any of his games at conventions. I merely know him from occasional exhanges on various internet fora. He strikes me as a most amiable and good natured chap. Sort of bloke you would happily join for a pint and chat about toy soldiers, parenting or whatever. I didn't really really get too wrapped up into the whole interminable debate over on the Molestor's Page about the demise of WF, so I can't comment on his contribution. I never purchased any of WF's product, it simply didn't appeal. My only regret is that they didn't have the presence of mind to change the comnpany's name to WTF before it was taken over/collapsed. That would have been quite apposite.  

I don't know Tony Reidy, nor have I had any dealings with him. As such, I hold no hard feelings for him. I suppose I'm with Jake on this one, I rather prefer the traditional business model of flogging the goods once they are produced rather than vice versa.

[tnjrp]

Here's the big announcement from yesterday:
http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/usmc-and-bug-tooling-wrapping-up

So, still no plastic running it seems but they do make their best to convince they are going to get to that this week and apologize for the delay.

Also, on TMP, Tony presented an explanation for the "In Stock" thingy. Reportedly, the store software doesn't understand "preorder"...

[Inso]

If it doesn't understand 'pre-order' then he shouldn't put stuff up because that would be in breach of the trade descriptions act, surely?

[Sangennaru]

If it doesn't understand 'pre-order' then he shouldn't put stuff up because that would be in breach of the trade descriptions act, surely?

indeed. it's getting worse and worse.

[aliensurfer]

Here's the big announcement from yesterday:
http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/news/item/usmc-and-bug-tooling-wrapping-up

is it me or does it look like those moulds haven't got much detail on them - as in the figures will not come out with a lot of sharp detail - to me they look 'soft' in the metal! 

[Sangennaru]

dunno, i think that it is because of the photo. But i'm not shure! =)

[Verderer]

WHo really gives a toss, they will be shit if they get released eventually. If not, all the better. I dont have any pity for the dimwits who have actually preordered them. (Maybe some for those who have ordered thinking they're actually in stock due to the webstore...) Kill it with fire I say.

Sorry, shitty day at work.

[tnjrp]

If it doesn't understand 'pre-order' then he shouldn't put stuff up because that would be in breach of the trade descriptions act, surely?

Can't link to a TMP post directly but here's Tony (or, Defiance Games 05 Mar 2012 8:43 p.m. PST):

I just heard the bit about the "in stock" bit being a big problem for someone. I hadn't noticed it before. I just checked it out and it's a function of the store software. If we want to allow for pre-orders it has to be "in stock". Sorry if that is misleading in anyway…I figured the big "PRE-ORDER" notice next to it would work

The thread is here, it's the second-to-latest message ATM:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=249945

 

[Hubminator]

Verdera, As one of the dimwits who preordered, I thank you for your positivity and the prescience you have to know what I have paid for will be shit... It must be nice to go through life being able to predict exactly how things I assume you have no actual knowledge of will turn out...some of us prefer to have a positive view of stuff, even if it is misplaced and naive, helps us cope with the those crappy days at work without insulting others... Have a nice day

[CptJake]

Did you really register just to whine?

[Verderer]

Verdera, As one of the dimwits who preordered, I thank you for your positivity and the prescience you have to know what I have paid for will be shit... It must be nice to go through life being able to predict exactly how things I assume you have no actual knowledge of will turn out...some of us prefer to have a positive view of stuff, even if it is misplaced and naive, helps us cope with the those crappy days at work without insulting others... Have a nice day

Lol, alrighty then. I didn't actually expect anyone on this forum to be as daft as to preorder them. Sorry, sorry, didn't mean daft. What is the word I am looking for here... gullible perhaps? I am sorry for calling any pre-orderers dimwits, that was perhaps too harsh.

But I must say it's curious you took offence at this sarcastic remark which wasn't specifically directed at you personally (since I didn't at the time even know of your existence, or indeed would have known, had you not registered and posted here). If you have followed this company Defiance Games at all, surely you must see how their credibility is called to question? There are pages of this drivel on this forum and many others. Caveat emptor and all that.

But if against all the odd this actually works out for you in the end, and you're happy with the minis, who am I to call you or anyone any names? I will however reserve the right to be positive or negative about anything I like, and call things like I see them. It's called freedom of speech.  Trust me, the minis will be shit, if they ever appear. You may not like to hear it, so feel free to ignore me.

The name is Verderer by the way.

 

[aliensurfer]

Did you really register just to whine?

well, I don't think they have a sock puppet account here, one was needed 

[Hubminator]

Verderer (apologies for misspelling), fair dos, I do agree the delays etc...from Defiance games are not a good look, and it may all be a sham, but I guess I got excited enough about the designs and concepts to be enthusiastic about it all and still hold out hope that they will deliver and the minis will fill some gaps I have had in my sci fi collection for ages. Freedom of speech, absolutely and sorry if my post implied otherwise, particularly about the positive/negative thing, you are absolutely right I did not take your post personally at all. I guess taste is a very subjective thing, I have a few of the WGF orcs and I think they are pretty cool, whereas many probably disagree. All the best.


Cptjake....absolutely, isn't that what the internet is for?

[Hubminator]

ps Daft is fine, I quite like daft