Polish command structure 1919 to 1922 war

[David]

Hi
i am looking for Polish command structure 1919 to 1922 war
what a basic infantry section was made of. etc?
Battery of artillery?
Cavalry?

polish tanks platoon, i need five, 3 37mm guns and 2 mg's
In April-May 1919, in the Polish Army of Gen. Haller in France, so-called "the Blue Army", there was formed the 1st Tank Regiment. The unit was based on equipment and part of personnel of former French 505th Tank Regiment, and was equipped with 120 most modern at that time light tanks Renault FT-17. In June 1919 the 1st Tank Regiment, along with Gen. Haller's Army, returned to Poland, with all equipment. Thanks to this, Poland became the fourth biggest armoured power in the world at that time.
The 1st Tank Regiment was equipped with 120 tanks FT-17: 75 armed with a 37mm gun Puteaux SA-18 L/21, and 45 armed with a 8mm Hotchkiss Mle.14 MG (the other source states 72 and 48 respectively). The regiment consisted of 5 companies, divided between 2 battalions. Each company had 3 tank platoons. One platoon consisted of 5 tanks: 3 gun-armed, including a commander's tank, and 2 MG-armed ones.

Thanks
David

[Mark Plant]

Thanks to this, Poland became the fourth biggest armoured power in the world at that time.

It takes one aircraft carrier to be the world's fourth biggest active carrier fleet in 2012. Italy and Spain of all places, have the equal second largest carrier fleets.

Poland being the "fourth biggest armoured power" in 1919 is similarly far less impressive than it sounds. It basically means they had some. In reality the tanks saw little service and were probably a waste of time and money (although they were often quite effective when they did see combat).

Combat structure in 1919 was that of the former army the regiment came from, perhaps with some units more or less according to the latest fluctuations in recruitment.

By 1920 they had settled down a bit in theory, but in practice numbers varied wildly still:
http://www.pygmywars.com/technical/toes/toes.pdf

Your best bet is to select an actual unit and construct that. Theoretical strengths are meaningless until after the war stopped and they had time to sort things out properly.

[koz10]

The link doesn't seem to work.

[David]

thanks had a look, its a good start.
http://pygmywars.com/technical/orbats/polesaug1920.pdf
http://pygmywars.com/technical/orbats/pworbats.html

  6th Cavalry Brigade, Colonel Dunnoski
            1st “Krechowiecki” Ulans, 400 “riders”, Colonel Dziewicki
            12th “Podolian” Ulans, 120 “riders”, Captain Komorowski
            14th “Jazłowiec” Ulans, 400 “riders”, Major Plisowski
            2 Batteries, 8 Guns

so a horse battery is 4 guns, is a infantry battery the same?
i was thinking that the polish army was like the WW1 french army ?

[ts]

4 guns pr every heavy battery is correct, while field artillery batteries should have 6 pieces after 1919.

[David]

I have been looking around the net and found this
http://www.hallersarmy.com/Units.php
sounds like this army was split up and used as a core for the new polish army, so ? could have been traind along french lines ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_(Polish)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Koziatyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wo%C5%82odarka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Komar%C3%B3w
http://12lancers.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=22

[ts]

Hallers Army did not fit into the Polish system and was reorganized and split up as fast as possible, also for political reasons. Haller was not a Pilsudski man, but supported the Socialdemokrats.
The Polish army was not trained along French lines, but the Poles took, what they could use from the French regulations and also organized into larger units after the French model.
I will put a translation from "ZARYS DZIEJÓW WOJSKOWOŚCI POLSKIEJ (1864-1939)" up on Cuprums site on the Polish organization. It is a rather short description, but it has some of the information, you is looking for. Still it is 14 pages and so a little too much for this forum.
The translation will be finished in a day or two.

[M.P.]

A bit of thread necromancy.

I've found some info concerning organization of polish infantry platoon 1919- onwards.


Fusilier platoon

Platoon officer (with pistol)

four sections ( nco+ 8 regulars each)

No machineguns just rifles.

[cuprum]

Structure of Polish Infantry Division, 1920

administration

1st column:

Infantry Brigade
Infantry Regiment
Infantry battalion
infantry company
Machine-gun company

2nd column:

Divizion (battalion) of mounted riflemen
A squadron of mounted riflemen
Machine-gun company
mortar company

3rd column:

company of communications
sapper battalion
Radio company

Artillery brigade

1st column:

Light Artillery Regiment
Light Artillery divizion (battalion)
Artillery battery

2nd column:

Heavy Artillery Regiment
Artillery battery




Structure of of Polish cavalry brigade, 1920


administration


Cavalry regiment

1st column:

Cavalry squadron

2nd column:

Technical squadron
Machine-gun squadron


communications Squadron


Horse Artillery divizion (battalion)

Artillery battery