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Offline LotB

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a question of primer
« on: 24 November 2012, 06:22:59 PM »
He,
I would have the following question:

is it possible to use as a primer an Humbrol paint (white or black), if then I will use acrylics colors like Vallejo?

Many thanks for your help.

Offline Svennn

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #1 on: 24 November 2012, 07:21:18 PM »
Simple answer is yes, there are many painters who exclusively use Humbrol as a basecoat.
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Offline LotB

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #2 on: 25 November 2012, 09:13:20 AM »
Simple answer is yes, there are many painters who exclusively use Humbrol as a basecoat.

Many thanks, you've been really nice.
What would you recommend as a base color, it is better the white or the black? Or a gray?
Cheers,
Sergio

Offline magokiron

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #3 on: 26 November 2012, 04:18:27 AM »
Oooooh! Priming black or white... That's the old "preference" question.

The truth is, there's no "right" answer for that.

I've used white, black and gray primers and all of them have some pros and cons.

Moreover, The Army Painter sells primers in a good collection of colors (worth a visit, and check their FREE painting pdf's: http://www.thearmypainter.com/).

Of course, you can use a secret technique to get the best of both worlds:

Prime your miniatures black and when completely dry, DRYBRUSH them white.

In that way, you'll have sharp shadows, bur your colors will be bright thanks to the white higlight.

And with this method, you get a very strog contrast, so you can really appreciate the minis details and check if you missed some mould lines for a touch up.

Hope that helps.
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Offline LotB

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #4 on: 26 November 2012, 08:48:44 AM »
Oooooh! Priming black or white... That's the old "preference" question.

The truth is, there's no "right" answer for that.

I've used white, black and gray primers and all of them have some pros and cons.

Moreover, The Army Painter sells primers in a good collection of colors (worth a visit, and check their FREE painting pdf's: http://www.thearmypainter.com/).

Of course, you can use a secret technique to get the best of both worlds:

Prime your miniatures black and when completely dry, DRYBRUSH them white.

In that way, you'll have sharp shadows, bur your colors will be bright thanks to the white higlight.

And with this method, you get a very strog contrast, so you can really appreciate the minis details and check if you missed some mould lines for a touch up.

Hope that helps.

He, Magorikin,
many thanks for your answer, with very usefull informations.
I will keep into account your suggestions.
Cheers,
Sergio
 

Offline Richard

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #5 on: 01 March 2015, 10:10:43 AM »
Oooooh! Priming black or white... That's the old "preference" question.

The truth is, there's no "right" answer for that.

I've used white, black and gray primers and all of them have some pros and cons.

Moreover, The Army Painter sells primers in a good collection of colors (worth a visit, and check their FREE painting pdf's: http://www.thearmypainter.com/).

Of course, you can use a secret technique to get the best of both worlds:

Prime your miniatures black and when completely dry, DRYBRUSH them white.

In that way, you'll have sharp shadows, bur your colors will be bright thanks to the white higlight.

And with this method, you get a very strog contrast, so you can really appreciate the minis details and check if you missed some mould lines for a touch up.

Hope that helps.

Thank you for the great advice, I am having problems with reds what is the best primer for red?
Regards
Richard
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Offline Ahistorian

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #6 on: 01 March 2015, 10:15:24 AM »
I find a (preferably dark) brown primer is best for models with lots of red - that or use GW's Mephiston Red as a basecoat. It has more pigment than most acrylic paints, so it takes well over pretty much anything.

Offline Richard

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #7 on: 01 March 2015, 11:24:28 AM »
Thank you I will try some halfords red primer I have for on one.

Offline SotF

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #8 on: 02 March 2015, 02:48:16 AM »
Oooooh! Priming black or white... That's the old "preference" question.

The truth is, there's no "right" answer for that.

I've used white, black and gray primers and all of them have some pros and cons.

Moreover, The Army Painter sells primers in a good collection of colors (worth a visit, and check their FREE painting pdf's: http://www.thearmypainter.com/).

Of course, you can use a secret technique to get the best of both worlds:

Prime your miniatures black and when completely dry, DRYBRUSH them white.

Preshading can also be done rather well if you prime black and then use a spray of white from wherever you want the light to be hitting the mini...
In that way, you'll have sharp shadows, bur your colors will be bright thanks to the white higlight.

And with this method, you get a very strog contrast, so you can really appreciate the minis details and check if you missed some mould lines for a touch up.

Hope that helps.

Offline fastolfrus

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Re: a question of primer
« Reply #9 on: 02 March 2015, 01:43:59 PM »
Thank you for the great advice, I am having problems with reds what is the best primer for red?

For heavily red (or brown) figures I tend to use a red oxide car primer.

For 15mm (especially ancients) I would recommend something like matt sand - the Humbrol one used to be good for this - base paint the clothing/armour etc, leave the sand on any flesh areas then give an ink & varnish wash, the sand with ink looks ok for 15mm flesh.
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