Zombicide Season 2 Kickstarter

[Doomsdave]

I really wanted some of the limited Survivor minis from the first one (Chuck Norris, Pulp Fiction et al) but couldn't bring myself to buy into the game as I hate all things Zombie.  Now I find myself wanting the Dirty Harry mini and same dilemma.  Oh well.

[SerialMoM]

I really wanted some of the limited Survivor minis from the first one (Chuck Norris, Pulp Fiction et al) but couldn't bring myself to buy into the game as I hate all things Zombie.  Now I find myself wanting the Dirty Harry mini and same dilemma.  Oh well.

I own both game and zombicide does not have much in common with All things zombies.

If you do not like zombies anyhow this game is not for you. But if you like zombies, a fast paced and exciting boardgame than this is the right thing for.

[Doomsdave]

Sorry.  I meant I hate anything zombie-related.  I wasn't referring to any specific game, just shambling undead in general.  I never understood the fascination.  But the first zombiecide KS had some really neat survivor sculpts. 

[Mahwell skel]

I see only a couple of people have commented on the game itself. Is it really that earth shatteringly good or is it a case of those who pledged to the original collecting the set?

I watched the preview videos for the first release and was not that impressed. I can understand people getting excited of the hundreds of minis that look very nice but who is actually playing the game?

I have Last Night on Earth which is easy to pick up, fast and fun and needs the players to co operate or die. What is the attraction of Zombicide as a game (not an excuse to buy well packaged Zombies?)

[Dr. Zombie]

I don't know if it is earth shatteringly good. But it is pretty damned good.

I had the exact same thoughts about the first kickstarter why all the hype? what if the game sucks?

After having tried it a few times I really like it. It is a really tense and quite hard game. I have had loads of fun playing it and I really regret not getting on board with the first kickstarter.

[zizi666]

I joined in more for the figs than for the game (the whole area movement/firing thing seemed odd)
However, having played some 5 games already, i can say it's a winner.
A bit weird to play co-op, not in the least since we normally enjoy giving other players a hard time 
What's also a big plus is the that the game is perfect for 3 players. (actualy, 4 players is the least interesting scenario because then you only get 4 survivors on the board.)

[akodo]

I really wanted some of the limited Survivor minis from the first one (Chuck Norris, Pulp Fiction et al) but couldn't bring myself to buy into the game as I hate all things Zombie.  Now I find myself wanting the Dirty Harry mini and same dilemma.  Oh well.

when I saw the Dirty Harry mini I was relieved as I knew I'd be able to get a great proxy easily

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=frank-cisco~hfa042&category=miniatures~modern-adventurers

I've seen at least one other one, but I don't recall which company it was from.

[akodo]

I see only a couple of people have commented on the game itself. Is it really that earth shatteringly good or is it a case of those who pledged to the original collecting the set?

I watched the preview videos for the first release and was not that impressed. I can understand people getting excited of the hundreds of minis that look very nice but who is actually playing the game?

I have Last Night on Earth which is easy to pick up, fast and fun and needs the players to co operate or die. What is the attraction of Zombicide as a game (not an excuse to buy well packaged Zombies?)

I'd rate zombicide as medium-good but not great.

I have not played LNoE but IIRC my understanding is either a 'team' or a 'GM' controls the zombie action and that player doesn't have a 'survivor' to control, so it seems 'us vs them'.   OTOH Zombicide the zombies follow rules and so all players are survivors.

Now, criticism.

#1 I Totally dislike the idea that One of my team-mates can be in a sector with zombies and if I shoot and hit...I hit him first.  Yea, he could holding back a zombie who is frantically biting at him...or he could be ducked down behind the gas station counter hoping the zombie doesn't notice him.  At least give me a chance at successfully hitting the zombie.  Something like a hit penalty, or all misses hit survivors, or random roll to see if survivor vs zombie gets hit, etc.

#2 Seems like too much of a copy of L4Dead.  Big 'abomination'(tank) at the end which can only be taken out by a molotov.  Fatty = belcher.

#3 Poor implementation and diversification of firearms.

#4 vehicle rules are very awkward and confusing.

#5 too 'movie action' and 'tongue in cheek' for my taste.  I dislike dual-wielding uzis, and rollerskating around with a chainsaw lopping off zombie heads.

#6 too many times I think 'this rule is absolutely stupid'. 

Example #1.  Your survivor standing there trying to be as quiet as possible is equally loud as a gunshot.

Example #2.  In a single 'turn' first survivor can run up and do a bunch of chainsaw attacks.  Next guy can 'borrow' the chainsaw and himself do a bunch of chainsaw attacks.  Third guy can borrow the chainsaw and do a bunch of attacks, etc etc.

Example#3 .  If you are in a room you can search it just once...per turn.  So a guy who walks into a room with 2 actions cannot search twice.  But the whole team can be in the room and each member search once...then next turn each member search once...then next turn each member search once.  (Do this early and you get kick ass equipment and the zombie horde doesn't spawn fast because you are 0 experience so you get the lowest zombie results, and always the easy zombies.  Also, no extra zombies due to splitting group rules.  Then when the horde of weaklings get close you get your xp killing easy zombies, so when the difficult ones show up you have great weapons and great skills.

[Malebolgia]

Example #1.  Your survivor standing there trying to be as quiet as possible is equally loud as a gunshot.

I'd say the zombies can "smell his brain". They don’t moan about braaaaaaaaaaains for nothing

Example #2.  In a single 'turn' first survivor can run up and do a bunch of chainsaw attacks.  Next guy can 'borrow' the chainsaw and himself do a bunch of chainsaw attacks.  Third guy can borrow the chainsaw and do a bunch of attacks, etc etc.

This is not true in reality. Borrowing the chainsaw costs 1 action and moving costs one action. So in most situations, survivor 1 ends up in the same space as survivor 2. Survivor 2 first needs to spend an action to get the chainsaw, then move up one square and then spend an action to attack…spending all three actions for one chainsaw attack (or he can make two attacks at level 2). Sure, if the zombies are in the same square as survivor 1, you don’t need to move, but still…it’s not very efficicient.

Example#3 .  If you are in a room you can search it just once...per turn.  So a guy who walks into a room with 2 actions cannot search twice.  But the whole team can be in the room and each member search once...then next turn each member search once...then next turn each member search once.  (Do this early and you get kick ass equipment and the zombie horde doesn't spawn fast because you are 0 experience so you get the lowest zombie results, and always the easy zombies.  Also, no extra zombies due to splitting group rules.  Then when the horde of weaklings get close you get your xp killing easy zombies, so when the difficult ones show up you have great weapons and great skills.

Mainly depends on the luck of the draw. We did this once, but mainly got rice, water and other junk and no interesting weapons. Result was a horde of zombies blocking the streets, making movement hard.
And even if you manage to find kickass weapons, you still have to plough through a lot of zombies in the streets before you can enter buildings. Chances are you’re spawning in ‘the yellow’ when you enter and then you’re really having a hard time to keep up the pace. And you DON’T want to enter a building when you’re in the orange…
IMO that’s the best thing about the game. You need to have a good balance between speed and being thorough and careful. Too fast and you end up without good weaponry and chances are you get split up. Too slow and you’re facing a very difficult end game with hordes of zombies (and often with extra bonus turns for them).

*****

I don’t really care for the expansions, I think it’s a good game as it is now. The only thing I would REALLY, REALLY, REALLY like is to get my hands on the equipment cards. That’s my main problem with Zombicide: not enough variation in the weapons.

[Marauderman]

Akodo "when I saw the Dirty Harry mini I was relieved as I knew I'd be able to get a great proxy easily

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=frank-cisco~hfa042&category=miniatures~modern-adventurers

I've seen at least one other one, but I don't recall which company it was from."

Akodo I believe the miniature You are thinking of is Magnum Inspector From Khurasan Miniatures 28mm range.  Khurasan Miniature web site is off line at the moment, they manly do 15mm miniatures but have a few 28mm like Mangnum Inspector and the sniper from that movie.

[Centaur_Seducer]

Akodo "when I saw the Dirty Harry mini I was relieved as I knew I'd be able to get a great proxy easily

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=frank-cisco~hfa042&category=miniatures~modern-adventurers

I've seen at least one other one, but I don't recall which company it was from."

Akodo I believe the miniature You are thinking of is Magnum Inspector From Khurasan Miniatures 28mm range.  Khurasan Miniature web site is off line at the moment, they manly do 15mm miniatures but have a few 28mm like Mangnum Inspector and the sniper from that movie.

Scorpio!

[FATROC]

I've played Zombicide with a number of my gaming and non-gaming friends. Everyone has had a great time. In my area, WH40K and WarmaHordes rule the landscape. It is EXTREMELY difficult to get people to try something new. This game seems to appeal to a wide range of people. One of the best games so far was during the recent blizzard "Nemo". We lost power during the middle of the game and ended up playing for an hour and a half by lantern light! Fighting zombies in the dark, very "cinematic"! 

[Braxandur]

when I saw the Dirty Harry mini I was relieved as I knew I'd be able to get a great proxy easily

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=frank-cisco~hfa042&category=miniatures~modern-adventurers

I've seen at least one other one, but I don't recall which company it was from.

You might mean obelisk miniatures from Josef Ochman
Other characers that can be found are from miami vice, starky and hutch and american chopper

[akodo]

Akodo I believe the miniature You are thinking of is Magnum Inspector From Khurasan Miniatures 28mm range. 

Yes, that is the one I was thinking of.

[Marauderman]

Silversixx good call on Scorpio, I had forgotten his name.
akodo as for the Dirty Harry miniature, I thought that was the one you were thinking of.
I have one myself and they are quite a good likeness for a 28mm miniature.