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Offline Elk101

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #60 on: 06 July 2013, 06:01:40 PM »
By the way, those are fantastic images you guys are showing.

Offline cdm

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #61 on: 07 July 2013, 12:43:04 PM »
Florentine Book XII - Nahua texts (Dibble and Anderson p19) - “All iron was their war array. In iron they clothed themselves. With iron they covered their heads. Iron were their swords. Iron were their crossbows. Iron were their shields. Iron were their lances.”

When the Spanish fled during the Night of Sorrow, those bodies who remained in the canals were looted “... were taken there as if merited the iron helmets, the iron corselets, the chain mail corselets, the leather shields, the iron shields, the wooden shields.” (Dibble & Anderson p30)

The eyewitness sources are inconsistent and non specific enough to be annoying, but no more than any ancient texts which we rely on as gamers anyway.

It is fairly clear from the Caribbean governor's letters home that the Crown just never supplied enough equipment to the colonies during this time period or later during the piracy age where the same problems continued. My assumption has been that the higher the status of the warrior the higher the likelihood they had access to armour from home which was sent out in smallish amounts. Those from the lower end made do with the cotton which was cheap and local. I sent Ged an extract from some of these letters which clearly show them receiving metal armour just prior to the conquest. In 1515 the Crown sent 200+ mail corselets and 50+ breast plate pairs (front and back) to the Caribbean colonies, I don't see any reason for them to magically disappear from use within 4 years. And that's only the paperwork I have access to.

Like Patrice I've done reenactment in breastplates in the Australian summer. You do what you need to do to survive balanced against comfort. Enclosed helmets really are the worst thing.
 

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #62 on: 07 July 2013, 05:08:13 PM »

The eyewitness sources are inconsistent and non specific enough to be annoying, but no more than any ancient texts which we rely on as gamers anyway.

I totally agree! lol Even the usually trustworthy Bernal Diaz contradicts himself when it comes to what armour was worn. At least in this part of the New World, we have a selection of ex-Conquistadors and priests to contradict each other. It's harder still to glean any useful ethnohistoric information on the Maya and the Inca conquests. For example, none of the Pizarro brothers could read or write. :(
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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #63 on: 08 July 2013, 09:20:10 AM »
thanks Cdm and Bowman some fascinating stuff there

BTW i have added there more crossbowmen to the site last night

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #64 on: 29 July 2013, 03:17:21 PM »
Conquistador "battle wagon " released and now available from my site
sold as partially constructed and in limited numbers.
an unusal piece not available commerically before!! :o


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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #65 on: 29 July 2013, 07:35:15 PM »
Dude, you are Evil (in the best sense of the word.)   8)   ;)

However, the SAW Spanish have more uses for my games and with the budget limited (Sequester hasn't damaged budget significantly, talk to me if/when it continues next year...) makes an order for conquistadors unlikely at this time.   :'(

Gracias,

Glenn

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #66 on: 29 July 2013, 08:20:45 PM »
Glen
no problem my friend figs will be there for you as and when you fancy and our respective economies boom!!! :D

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Offline DaveL

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #67 on: 30 July 2013, 06:27:54 PM »
How brilliant are those figures.  i saw them at salute and they're mouth watering in the flesh.

a friend of mine is going to buy some after seeing them - not because he collects the period, but because they're such good figures.  Best of luck with the range ged

Best Wishes   DaveL

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Re: new 28mm Conquistadors on Gringo40s site
« Reply #68 on: 30 July 2013, 11:10:45 PM »
thanks Davidt.most kind of you....looking forward to your mates order!! :D

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