Newline Designs 20mm Ancient ranges

[TheCount]

Hey,

Found these lovely 20mm ranges, as a scale i find it much easier to paint armies faster, store them and game with them with keeping a good degree of detail,

So what im wondering is anyone had experience with these?

Here's a link
http://newlinedesigns.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=410_429&zenid=5b6e37e5165175e4b737937fe3b9ace8

Im particularly interested in the celts/greek ranges,

What im wondering is how historical (historical accuracy is a must) are these ranges and what era's they would be suited for, i have a far idea for the celts but have no idea about the greeks,

Any help would be appreciated,
cheers

[Lowtardog]

I had a British and Zulu force in 20mm they are nice easy to paint figures hihgly recommended.

As to the Greeks I think you are looking at being able to use them for Thermopolae onwards

Looking again they ahve musicians etc so you are looking at later period really

here is a good infomred starting point for a bit of background, beware you will be googling for hours. I had greek, Persian and Thracian armies its a great period to game

http://www.ancientbattles.com/index_01_AncientBattles.html

[TheCount]

Cheers,

I think i'll be investing in some so, i hope newline keeps extending the 20mm ranges, medieval and dark ages would be nice and some more depth to some of the ancients, 20mm is the way forward.

As for the greeks then, cheers for the link i'll give it a look, but lets say could i make a list for WAB "armies of antiquity" Ancient greeks from these mini's i only ask as this is a system i am familiar with, dosent seem to any thracians with Rhomphaia yet either tho would hardly take much to convert, Here's a link to the WAB supplement anyway if you'd care to take a look or just know what im on about

[Link removed by moderator. Advertising rip-offs is bad form, gents. ]

By late how late do you mean ? Hellenistic or Classical greece?

[aecurtis]

"Armies of Antiquity" is no longer in print, but is still copyrighted.  That links to an example of IP theft.

Allen

[aecurtis]

Newline 20mm are much like their 25/28mm, writ smaller.  Sean has always been good when it comes to figure accuracy.

Allen

[Frank]

I really like the 20mm and 1/72 Newline Designs miniatures. I use the ancient ranges together with my 1/72 plastics for Field of Glory. Here are some sample pictures…

[moonshado]

Love those elephants( also love both lots of chariots and the command base).

[Vern]

I've got a couple of DBA armies (still in the lead pile, of course), but I've found their figures to be nicely proportioned & cleanly cast.

This is what inspired me to buy some 

[TheCount]

I've decided to get some, some fantastic miniatures there, especially from frank, absolutely gorgeous.

So what dates would the greeks be good for particulary?

[Orctrader]

I really like the 20mm and 1/72 Newline Designs miniatures. I use the ancient ranges together with my 1/72 plastics for Field of Glory. Here are some sample pictures…

   Fantastic.

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Outstanding, Frank! Makes me curious about all that 1:72/20mm stuff. Looks like a great alternative with some very nice possibilities-

[6sided]

Those are very nice.  I didn't realise Newline did all that sort of stuff.

[killshot]

I've painted hundreds (literally) for a commission and I have yet to get tired of
them.  They're quick to paint and hold great detail.

[TheCount]

They are lovely miniatures, for the greeks, what dates would they be good for ?

Can anyone break down what sets i'd need to create what from what is available, cheers

[julesav]

This might help:

"The linothorax is a modern term conventionally used to describe a type of upper body armor used by the Ancient Greeks, as well as other civilizations, from the Mycenaean Period through the Hellenistic Period. It is based on the Greek λινοθώραξ (in Homer λινοθώρηξ), which strictly is an adjective meaning "wearing a breastplate of linen" (and is not a noun meaning "linen armor" as often stated); the "linothorax" was made of linen, while a "thorax" was made of metal. The earliest attested account of a "linothorax" used for battle is recorded in Book 2 of Homer's Iliad (2.529 and 2.830). It is worn by Ajax the Lesser and is described in brief. Homer, composing long before the great armies of Athens, Thebes, Sparta or Alexander the Great, surely understood what the armor was. But the extent to which it was used can not be fully determined. An educated guess can be made, however, based on its use by Alexander the Great, and its mention by other sources such as Herodotus (2.182, 3.47, 7.63), Livy (4.19.2–20.7) and Strabo (Geography, 3.3.6, 13.1.10), and many others. The linothorax appears to have been used in place of the bronze 'bell cuirass' as the popular choice of armour for Greek hoplites, starting perhaps around the late seventh century and early sixth century B.C. Its high point, if vase paintings, sculptural reliefs and artistic depictions are to be believed, corresponds with the time of the Persian Wars. By the time of the Peloponnesian War it was still used, and continued to seemingly flourish well into the Hellenistic Period." Wikipedia.

I think that the bronze cuirass types were a bit 'old fashioned' by Alexander's time - but if you inherited one you'd probably still use it!