Pulp German

[Poliorketes]

Yeah, Hawkmoon is great! But they had german gods, too - Adulf next to chirchill.

[Aaron]

American villians are pleanty common even government and military villians but your right the heros are usually still Americans.  I can't think of a single Viet Nam movie where some American isn't the main villian.

The Green Berets starring John effing Wayne! It's a true apple pie movie where all of the Americans are brave honest types and the commies are shown for the evil scum they are. Plus it has Ensign Sulu as an ARVN officer!

It is a really dreadful movie though.

[Poliorketes]

American villians are pleanty common even government and military villians but your right the heros are usually still Americans.  I can't think of a single Viet Nam movie where some American isn't the main villian.

The Green Berets starring John effing Wayne! It's a true apple pie movie where all of the Americans are brave honest types and the commies are shown for the evil scum they are. Plus it has Ensign Sulu as an ARVN officer!

It is a really dreadful movie though.

[hum-mode]Fighting soldiers from the sky, fearless men, who jump and die...[/hum-mode]

[Westfalia Chris]

American villians are pleanty common even government and military villians but your right the heros are usually still Americans.  I can't think of a single Viet Nam movie where some American isn't the main villian.

The Green Berets starring John effing Wayne! It's a true apple pie movie where all of the Americans are brave honest types and the commies are shown for the evil scum they are. Plus it has Ensign Sulu as an ARVN officer!

It is a really dreadful movie though.

[hum-mode]Fighting soldiers from the sky, fearless men, who jump and die...[/hum-mode]

*continues hum-mode*
"men who mean-just what they say-the fighting men-of the Green Berets!"
*/hum mode*

I actually bought it for a mere five Euros when I started my Vietnam project (which is now on undetermined hiatus). For that, I got a flick which serves both purposes-my liberal-intellectual furor may engage in righteous embarassment (such as watching porn or an accident, it´s terrible but you cannot look away and you still wallow in the guilty pleasure) and is a totally trashy pulpy action flick.

[Ironworker]

American villians are pleanty common even government and military villians but your right the heros are usually still Americans.  I can't think of a single Viet Nam movie where some American isn't the main villian.

The Green Berets starring John effing Wayne! It's a true apple pie movie where all of the Americans are brave honest types and the commies are shown for the evil scum they are. Plus it has Ensign Sulu as an ARVN officer!

It is a really dreadful movie though.

Oh yeah I tend to forget that one.  The again I grew up with Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalyps Now, ect.......  Not exactly the type of film "The Duke" would have been in.  When I was growing up Viet Nam was the "bad" war.  Of course now I know we've never had a "good" war. 

[Cory]

Of course now I know we've never had a "good" war. 

The Pig War wasn't too bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War

[Aaron]

Oh yeah I tend to forget that one.  The again I grew up with Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalyps Now, ect.......  Not exactly the type of film "The Duke" would have been in.  When I was growing up Viet Nam was the "bad" war.  Of course now I know we've never had a "good" war. 

I just assumed you had the good taste to never watch it. 

[Will Bailie]

I've always said the only things I still have from my german classes is the ability to do a good and cheesy accent with a few German words thrown in. 

I've always wondered how you guys feel about being constantly cast as the villians in Pulp style games and stories.  One of these days I'd like to run a short either Victorian or WWI pulp adventure serial with German protaganist and the traditionally "good guy" British, French, and Americans as the antagonist.

Hawkmoon perhaps?  Where the world is threatened by the forces of Granbretan. 

I read a couple of novels by an Indian author, TN Murali, which were purported to be sequels to Kipling's "Kim".  In them, Kim carries on his job as a spy for the British, but ends up gradually being swayed toward the Indian independence movie.  I won't say that they were great literature, but they were entertaining, and certainly presented the British in a less than positive light.  The books were "The Imperial Agent" and "The Last Victory".  Not quite pulp, but set in the 1910s and 1920s.
http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Agent-Timeri-Murari/dp/0450424030/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210294222&sr=8-2

[Aaron]

I think Hopkirk mentions those in "Quest for Kim". I thought about tracking them down, but I don't think the Anglophile in me would enjoy them much. I am also leery of pastiches. As a Holmes fan I've read a lot and few seem to be up to the originals' standards.

[Burgundavia]

I read a couple of novels by an Indian author, TN Murali, which were purported to be sequels to Kipling's "Kim".  In them, Kim carries on his job as a spy for the British, but ends up gradually being swayed toward the Indian independence movie.  I won't say that they were great literature, but they were entertaining, and certainly presented the British in a less than positive light.  The books were "The Imperial Agent" and "The Last Victory".  Not quite pulp, but set in the 1910s and 1920s.
http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Agent-Timeri-Murari/dp/0450424030/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210294222&sr=8-2

Hmm, shiny. My gf happened to pick The Imperial Agent up the other day. Must have a read.

[Captain Blood]

I think the British as baddies thing started long before mel Gibson. I recall a quite good mini-series called Masada, about the Jewish revolt in 70 AD. All the heroic Jewish defenders were played by - yes, you guessed it - Americans. All the gnarly Roman centurions, scum of the earth Roman legionaries, and effete Roman Tribunes, were played by a wide assortment of British character actors...

[Will Bailie]

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Hmm, shiny. My gf happened to pick The Imperial Agent up the other day. Must have a read.
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Please don't mistake my suggestion to indicate that the book is great literature.  The main character may share a name with Kipling's Kim, but the story is definitely Murali's.  Still, I did find it interesting to read a colonial adventure story told from the point of view of the colonised, rather than the coloniser.