28mm Punjab Infantry NWF 1890s?

[Lowtardog]

These look ok, towards bottom of page

http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page12.htm

Foundry, Brigade Games, Warlord and TAG do pack mules too

[smirnoff]

Thanks
Ordered a couple of TAGs

[Hobbit]

Probably a bit late but I've got some that I think came from Dixon's Dahomey range.

[Rob Herrick]

Old Glory does Sikh or Indian Mountain guns. They come with plenty of mules loaded with kit - they're designed to be carrying the guns, so they'd make good pack or ammunition mules.

[smirnoff]

Cheers gents
I have some mules carrying a mountain gun from Brigade; not totally accurate but it will do me


Got a bag of the Eureka Sappers; okish but nothing to write home about IMHO.

[smirnoff]

TAG pack mules arrived and they are lovely sculpts

[smirnoff]

Gents
Anyone have a view on the correct banner/flag for the Mad Mullah (NWF 97-8)?
Green Jihad flag?
Black?

[Hobbit]

The only photo of banners from this period that I can think of is this one:

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-09-12/wreath-laying-for-sikhs-killed-in-battle/

I think that there is a description in Churchill's "Story of the Malakand Field Force" that describes banners of all shapes, sizes and colours. I'll double check that one and get back to you...

[Hobbit]

To quote Churchill:

"Gay banners of every colour, shape and device, waved from the surrounding hills."

I don't recall reading a description of the Mad Mullah's own flag/standard/banner. In the absence of evidence I would be happy to issue one "artistic licence, wargamer, for the use of".

[smirnoff]

Thanks Hobbit
Not got to that passage in Churchill yet (excellent book I think)
Still, plenty of scope for flags when the Mullah does not take the field

[moonshado]

Churchill also made mention at one point of viewing tribal forces arrayed along a crest and their red flags were visible. Forget the exact wording but it suggested that the red flags were the only ones that stood out at that distance, the other coloured flags being either too dark  or too light to clearly show on the sky line.

[Hobbit]

There's a searchable pdf here:

http://pdfbooks.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7565&Itemid=35

I think the quote is:

"It was evident, as the Guides Cavalry approached the hills, that resistance was contemplated. Several red standards were visible to the naked eye, and the field-glasses disclosed numerous figures lining the ridges and spurs."

I think that it is a magnificent book, I've read many about the frontier but Churchill's is by far the best and packed with relevant detail for the gamer.

[H.M.Stanley]

"I think that it is a magnificent book, I've read many about the frontier but Churchill's is by far the best and packed with relevant detail for the gamer."

Agreed. I've gamed a couple of scenarios from the book

[psychomo]

Hi Guys,

Probably a bit late, but Ironclad do a range of Second Afgan War:

http://www.ironcladminiatures.co.uk/shop/category_39/Second-Afghan-war.html

Rodge, I know we were looking at their site the other day, but think we managed to miss these!

Mo

[smirnoff]

Just finished the bulk of the 28s for the 1897-8 Rebellion.

100ish a side plus British mountain guns, maxims and associated mules to carry them (did a simple conversion of a TAG mule to carry a maxim, worked OK)
Bulk of the figures are Foundry (Gordons, a Line Unit, and the Guides Infantry, Sikhs and Gurkhas from the Piffers)
Small Unit of Eureka Bombay Sappers and Miners and some rather nice (if inaccurate if you are strict for this period) Brits from Pontooner.
Collection also includes some European civilians (Perry War Correspondents) and a couple of ladies from Copplestone.

No 'Brit' cavalry as yet...must admit I don't know if the OG dismounted Indian Cav will work with the Foundry Guides Cav?

Pashtun/Pathans are Foundry jezail armed infantry, cavalry and sword armed Ghazi (with a few Mutineer Miniatures mixed in) and rifled armed (inaccurately where the Lee Enfields are concerned but I'm not fussed) from Empress.

Now...build the NWF. Am going to try the woodchip method:
http://maiwandday.blogspot.it/2012/01/afghannwf-rocky-hill-goes-vertical-back.html

I will push this lot forward in time to 3rd Afghan War and later conflicts next year when I have time.

But a big thank you to all on this and the T&T thread that helped me out.

One thing I am unsure of is the use of smokeless powder.
I thought everyone was still using cartridges/charges that produced smoke...is that correct for small arms?
I thought that the mountain guns also still used the same but read in Richards' 'The Savage Frontier' that some Piffer mountain batteries used smokeless charges...
Any help, as usual, gratefully accepted....