Musketeers - BBC Discuss!

[westwaller]

The main problem with it is the current vogue for period dramas to pretend these are modern people in period dress. Obviously people 400 years ago, fictional or historical, were not modern people, and did not have the same turn of phrase, attitudes or sensibilities. So it's just the latest conceit in Telly-land.

I quite agree, Captain. I did enjoy the programme more than I expected to but I felt at times that the characters behaved as they do in all 'historical' bbc dramas and I could have been watching, 'Ripper Street', 'Peeky Blinders' as the men are all swagger and cocksure 'almost like they are in a rock band, whilst the ladies are all feisty with heaving bosoms and ready to fall into bed with the heroes at the drop of a hat... At least it was not as dire as the terrible 'Atlantis'

It is worth considering that on the subject of historical accuracy, there is no history not be accurate about so to speak, as Dumas based his stories on several earlier texts, but wrote them in the 19th century 'stretching historical accuracy to the limits' as it says in my 'Radio Times'. It is a 19th century story set in the fictional 17th century.

Do musket balls spark when they ricochet though? that is what I wondered??

I we keep watching just to see how evil milady gets...

[joroas]

Do musket balls spark when they ricochet though?

They are lead, so more likely to flatten on impact and drop on the floor.
Not sure that the slow velocity of these weapons would allow it to ricochet, anyway.

[Earther]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/bbcs-musketeers-adaptation-slammed-for-not-having-any-dog-characters-2014012082739

[joroas]

I so remember Dogtanian!  

[H.M.Stanley]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/bbcs-musketeers-adaptation-slammed-for-not-having-any-dog-characters-2014012082739

I get all my current affairs updates from the Mash. Its more reliable than the sh*te we get fed to us from the BBC etc

[westwaller]

They are lead, so more likely to flatten on impact and drop on the floor.
Not sure that the slow velocity of these weapons would allow it to ricochet, anyway.

Thanks @Joroas, that is what I thought so I was surprised to hear the wild west style 'peeow!' and see the ricochet sparks beloved of filmmakers when watching The Musketeers...  

[joroas]

It would be interesting to hear what a re-enactor has seen.  Soft metals, like lead and copper, don't spark with friction, like iron and steel.

[Paleskin]

Enjoyed it for what it was....adaptation/dramatisation largely put out to get good viewing figures rather than keep historians happy
Will watch the rest

Flashing blade it ain't!

[Captain Blood]

'You've got to fight for what you want... ' 

Ah, those were the days...

[Galloping Major]

'You've got to fight for what you want... ' 

Ah, those were the days...

Ah yes 

[joroas]

Absolutely, and for the younger generation:

[Kieron]

those shoulder pads seem to owe more to Warhammer than any historical reference.

I actually enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. Not as historical fiction but as enjoyable fantasy. In fact I was massively reminded of what Warhammer used to be like: lots of dirt, lots of fights, a fair bit of skulduggery, lies, plots and a good healthy dose of sauce.

Given how execrable Merlin, Atlantis and most of Robin Hood were, it was really rather good.

[Mo!]

Im no history buff so I just enjoyed it 

[OSHIROmodels]

Just watched the first episode on Iplayer and wasn't really impressed 

Looked OK but none of the main characters really endear themselves, even Peter Capaldi wasn't brilliant.

I'll watch it again and see what happens.

And the shoulder guard thing is bollocks, having something hindering (no matter how little) your sword arm is a recipe for disaster. Having fenced a bit and taken part in re-enactment sword play you need as much flexibility as possible.

cheers

James

[Blackwolf]

I have to say,you lot have put me off. Back to re-runs of Blackbooks I guess or at least Foyle's War(found Ripper St. ever so crap ).