Medal/badge ID help

[CptJake]

Anyone have an idea what this is:



I suspect some of the magnificent minds here will know, but I am stumped and a buddy asked for my help.

Thanks!

Jake

[joroas]

Not sure, but, at first glance, obviously a King's crown, so pre QEII, British commonwealth with a rifle regiment Maltese cross, the fleur de lis suggests Canadian French.  The enamelled centre looks like a later addition, is it covering over any more detail? The wreath, however, seems to have a naval flavour. The hole at the top looks like it was nailed to something, most badges have tails, pins or clips at the back, out of sight, to attach them.

At a second look, is this a serious badge or a fanciful creation of three badges glued together?  It just looks wrong on so many levels. 

[CptJake]

is this a serious badge or a fanciful creation of three badges glued together?

Honestly I am not sure what it is.

[grant]

I thought I had an idea, but no.

[joroas]

On a third look is this a fashion accessory from a handbag that some company has cobbled together to make it look quasi-military?

[grant]

On a third look is this a fashion accessory from a handbag that some company has cobbled together to make it look quasi-military?

It looks like a Quebec militia regiment cap badge that's been glued to a piece of maybe Russian trinket. The hole at the top looks like it was meant to hang, not be worn on a hat.

It's very odd.

[FramFramson]

It could be Russian in any case - don't forget that for many years there was a strong French connection with Russia.

[joroas]

Not Russian, the middle brass badge is most definitely a British or Empire badge from a Rifle Regiment, prior to QEII as it has a King's Crown.

I still think that this is a mixture of three badges from different origins and not a real badge at all.

[grant]

Not Russian, the middle brass badge is most definitely a British or Empire badge from a Rifle Regiment, prior to QEII as it has a King's Crown.

I still think that this is a mixture of three badges from different origins and not a real badge at all.

Definitely not Russian in the middle. It's a cap badge or regiment insignia of some kind. I agree - it's a glue job 

[carlos marighela]

I wouldn't write it off as a fake just yet. A quick google image search shows that an enamalled centrepiece isn't uncommon amongst Canadian cap badges.

Anyway the place to ask is The British and Commonwealth Military Badge Forum.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/index.php

Let us know what it turns out to be.

[joroas]

It's a cut and paste job......

[FramFramson]

Well, three things:

1) I'm not sure what motivation anyone would have for butchering a badge in this way. It's not impossible, I suppose
2) If it is glued, then whoever did this at least took care to use components of a very similar age, colour, patina.
3) I've learned never to make assumptions about the sheer number and variety of badges, insignia, and other doo-dads among the servicepeople of the former empires of Europe!

Hopefully he'll get an answer on that badge forum, but I honestly wouldn't count it out until there's some sort of confirmation.

I wonder if it looks glued-on to Captain Jake?

[joroas]

They are the same type of metal, but they most definitely are not the same colour!

Whatever is under the enamelled section will reveal the regiment.....

[CptJake]

Hopefully he'll get an answer on that badge forum, but I honestly wouldn't count it out until there's some sort of confirmation.

I wonder if it looks glued-on to Captain Jake?

Nothing yet from that forum.  I did join and submit a topic to their Mystery Badge ID section.   One reply sent me to an album on the forum I don't seem to have access to, and just a 'Hey look at all the stuff here' message so not much help yet.

As to whether or not I think it is glued, I can't tell.   If I had the physical piece instead of just the picture I could give a better opinion.  As it is, from the picture it looks decently assembled, at least as much as other medals/badges I've seen.  

Jake

[the commissar]

The central blue symbols looks very like the UK Boy Scouts symbol