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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #45 on: 12 June 2014, 06:04:11 AM »
Capt. Jake,

While we're at it - who's got a quality source for deck guns?  I picked up some from Dogs of War a while back and they're miniscule - think 20mm instead of 28mms.  The Dogs of War rowboats on the other hand are simply splendid and I have three of them.  Great quality.



try Amati guns
nice guns , wooden carriage, weathered barrel, no paint job  :D
40mm gun on 30mm carriage or 50mm on 40mm carriage .
the price in france is around 2,20 € .

you can see some in this topic : making a chebeck


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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #46 on: 12 June 2014, 01:40:33 PM »

 The largest ship covered in the rules is one with a nominal crew of 60 (plus 12 swivel guns and 12 cannon). This could represent a brig, brigantine, dhow, junk or a small frigate, depending on your interpretation

4 ship types

I hope that helps somewhat. As I've said before, please feel free to ask any questions you like, and I'll do my best to answer them.

Cheers!

so, no polaca, xebec, pink, galiot, small galley ?




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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #47 on: 12 June 2014, 02:00:16 PM »
Capt. Jake,

Yeah those are pretty nice looking.  Actually what I'm considering asking him to do are some 60% ships.  Basically a base floor, a raised deck, the rear tower...and then maybe a mast.  I'll provide the sides with plasticard or heavy card..and I think he could swing them for $10-15 a pop.  lol  I'm a bit of a cheapskate.  I'm going to talk to him about it this week.  I may start selling products through him so maybe I can release a small line of "build your own" ships when this game comes out.

While we're at it - who's got a quality source for deck guns?  I picked up some from Dogs of War a while back and they're miniscule - think 20mm instead of 28mms.  The Dogs of War rowboats on the other hand are simply splendid and I have three of them.  Great quality.




No idea if the guns are any good but they are very cheap so might be worth a punt

http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/25mmRanges/25mmPirates.htm

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #48 on: 12 June 2014, 02:09:32 PM »
Way back when LOTHS was in favour a mate produced these ships and guns, cheap as chips and may satisfy your fix ;D

http://minimi.co.uk/pirates/

cannon are only a £1 a pop

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #49 on: 12 June 2014, 04:26:28 PM »
so, no polaca, xebec, pink, galiot, small galley ?

Not by name, no. The rules don't attempt to differentiate between every ship type ever built!

The 4 ship types cover broadly comparable 'classes' of ship, based on handling, armament and crew (the three main factors for ship use in the game):

  • 'Boat' - max. 10 figures, plus max. 1 light cannon or swivel gun in bow
  • 'Galley' - max. 20 figures (fighting crew, not slave rowers), plus max. 1 swivel gun or light or heavy cannon in bow, plus max. 2 swivel guns on each broadside
  • 'Sloop' - max. 20 figures, plus max. 8 swivel guns, plus max. 4 light cannon
  • The aforementioned 'Ship', which is the largest option

Some of the most common types to be found within each 'class' are listed - such as those posted previously for the 'Ship', or the pinnaces, xebecs, small schooners, sekibune and caravels included in the 'Sloop' category. This should prove enough to give you a starting point if you want to use something more exotic.
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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #50 on: 12 June 2014, 04:52:37 PM »
for the guns, for "small" guns ( as found on most pirates or privateers ships and on upper decks of manOwar) i use games of war canons 2,50£ for 2 guns ,
you can see some of them on my mediterranéan privateer


the ship's kit is pretty nice too

postage free worldwide , usualy, your order is send the next day ...

Not by name, no. The rules don't attempt to differentiate between every ship type ever built!

The 4 ship types cover broadly comparable 'classes' of ship, based on handling, armament and crew (the three main factors for ship use in the game):


well those mediterranean ships ( polaca, pink, xebec ) are "big" ships, frigate size and armamant ( a xebec with 20 guns and 20 swivel guns is not uncommon )  , and not galley (and their ridiculous armamant :D ) , but using sails and oars ...

that's a 5th ship type  ;)  the missing element  ;)

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #51 on: 12 June 2014, 05:21:45 PM »
I remember having an argument with someone on another forum about xebecs. He argued that the action as described in 'Master and Commander' could not have happened as described because of the relative heights of the sloop and xebec involved. I told him he was an eejit since the sloop was fictional, the xebec was fictional, and neither 'class' of boat was built to any specific blueprint, all of them being different sizes.

I think when I put it that way, he decided he'd had enough.

Which proves two things -

1) Don't get carried away with the definitions of the boats/ships, since they're usually pretty broad.

2) Don't get caught up in petty arguments on the internet about anything at all, because it is scientifically proven to shrivel your genitals and make you grow a foreskin around your neck.
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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #52 on: 12 June 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
Tell him he's an eejit, not because it was fictional, but because none of it was fictional. The fight between Sophie and the Cacafuego in 'Master and Commander' was basically the real-life action of HMS Speedy versus the Spanish Xebec-Frigate El Gamo but with all the names changed.
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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #53 on: 12 June 2014, 05:51:51 PM »
I guess, the question is this: Is this all that Northstar is going to offer is the large lot with free shipping with the bonus figs and the monkey with the book? Will there be any other deals?

Payday is near and the wife is asking me to consider birthday options. While I don't doubt the large package is a great deal, it is out of my range. I was curious if there are going to be other options or just this. Helps me make a call on what I am going to get.

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #54 on: 12 June 2014, 06:24:18 PM »
In addition to that, will there be a 'Nickstarter' Page like there was with OGAM, or is it just ordering through the webstore?
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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #55 on: 12 June 2014, 06:50:51 PM »
Tell him he's an eejit, not because it was fictional, but because none of it was fictional. The fight between Sophie and the Cacafuego in 'Master and Commander' was basically the real-life action of HMS Speedy versus the Spanish Xebec-Frigate El Gamo but with all the names changed.

Aah, that's the issue, it wasn't. It was based on the action, but the events were significantly changed - ie. in the book O'Brien puts the guns of the 'Cacafuego' too high to fire on the deck of the 'Sophie' when in close; rather than in real life where Cochrane used superior seamanship to make sure the 'El Gamo' was tilting (and the guns pointing downwards into the sea) whilst the 'Speedy' could fire up through its enemy's decks at point blank range.

This was basically the whole argument, that this guy said the fictional account couldn't have happened as it was written (which we both agreed was different from the actual event) because a xebec's decks weren't higher than a sloop's; whereas I told him since the vessels were both fictional versions of boats of varying dimensions (and the waterline is also largely dependent on what weight a boat/ship is carrying) he couldn't possibly rule one way or the other and that it was entirely possible for a large xebec to be higher in the water than a small sloop.

I told you it was petty. I'm such a nob for getting caught up in piffling crap like that.

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #56 on: 12 June 2014, 07:08:17 PM »
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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #57 on: 12 June 2014, 07:51:20 PM »
I told you it was petty. I'm such a nob for getting caught up in piffling crap like that.

Aye, the internet will do that to the best of men. No avoiding it, sometimes.

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #58 on: 13 June 2014, 04:01:16 PM »
Nickstarter ? go  :D

some good news, free figures and discounted postage

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Re: Northstar Miniatures: On The Seven Seas Nickstarter Launch Date
« Reply #59 on: 13 June 2014, 04:55:42 PM »
So, is there no way to buy the special figures?  I really like the high seas drifter, but I do not see myself spending 130 quid on this.  I would happily pay for the bonus figure, however...

 

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