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Offline shandy

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Building a medieval cog
« on: May 31, 2014, 10:24:09 AM »
Hi,

for our WotR project, I've been scratch building a medieval cog:
http://wargamingraft.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/scratchbuilding-a-medieval-cog/

I know that the shape of the hull is too narrow for a medieval ship and I'm not sure if I should continue and make more of those or try a different approach…

Cheers,
Shandy

Offline rumacara

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 10:47:02 AM »
Hello Shandy

Your Cog is very good. :-*
If you search for the Zvezda boats (medieval cog) you will see that it works also for 28mm and that a lot of people use them to transform to something else.
Dont worry if you end up with several diferent cogs.
That´s equal to the reality so go for it.
Excelent work.

Cheers

Rui

Offline shandy

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 11:22:34 AM »
Thanks Rui! And thanks for the Zvezda hint, unfortunately I need it for 15mm, I guess it would be too large for that.
Anyway, I'll probably build more of them...

Offline fastolfrus

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 11:40:38 AM »
I vaguely recall a tv programme about an archaoligical dig with a medieval cog.
Somewhere like Bristol?

But otherwise didn't HMGS do something about cogs (possibly a Sluys project, it's a couple of years since I read it)? Or Gary Chalk?

There was a full size replica built a few years back, with a tv programme and a book
http://www.matthew.co.uk/
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Offline Byblos

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 11:41:34 AM »
Excellent work !!!

Offline rumacara

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 12:18:36 PM »
If i´m not wrong Essex miniatures had one and check Old Glory too.
Both these have boats for 15mm.
If i come across something i will pm you.

Cheers

Rui

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2014, 12:08:48 AM »
I know that the shape of the hull is too narrow for a medieval ship and I'm not sure if I should continue and make more of those or try a different approach…

Not so, the cog was a somewhat outdated design by the 15th Century, but still used. Other vessels were being introduced, like the crayer and hoy, which were somewhat slimmer than the traditional cog. Caravels and Carracks were becoming common too. As long as it's ship-shape (see what I did there?), it will fit as something.

Fore and aft castles were sometimes only temporary structures on some types too and only added if any fighting was likely.

So to me it looks the part at least. Nice job!  8)

Offline Mick_in_Switzerland

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 01:17:57 PM »
Great job - well done :)

Offline fred

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 01:18:21 PM »
Looks good to me.

Once the for and aft castles are on, they are what you see as the main shape of the ship, not the hull.

If you don't show people the WIP shots, they would never know it started as a modern ship.

Offline janner

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 11:02:18 PM »
Looking good  :)

Offline The Dozing Dragon

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 11:23:01 PM »
There are a bunch of very nice paper/card ones on Barony Miniatures site - old school sculptor (Heritage) who is doing some really nice Medievals etc. Can't link direct as blocked from work  >:( but the main site is here;

baronyminiatures.com

Offline shandy

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Re: Building a medieval cog
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 10:13:36 AM »
Looks like the Barony Miniatures cardboard ones are for 28mm… much too large for my purposes - my scratch built one is only about 15cm long.
Thanks anyway, and thanks to everybody for the great feedback!

 

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