*

Recent Topics

Author Topic: Silocone Molding Made Easy  (Read 3830 times)

Offline Too Bo Coo

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3955
  • The Adder Noir
Silocone Molding Made Easy
« on: 15 July 2014, 09:01:43 AM »
It's not my technique, but I saw this and it looks very interesting.

http://fallfordiy.com/blog/2014/04/27/how-to-make-a-silicone-mould/
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men."
-Willy Wonka

Offline The Dozing Dragon

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3962
    • The Little Soldier Company
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #1 on: 15 July 2014, 03:38:59 PM »
Thanks for that.....days off project sorted for pirate roofing.....

Offline snitcythedog

  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • *
  • Posts: 2886
    • Snitchys blog
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #2 on: 15 July 2014, 10:08:58 PM »
I have used this method on more than one occasion and it works pretty well.  The biggest thing that you want to remember is that do not do anything with a major undercut or high detail.  Most off the shelf silicone sealers will have a hard time with both. 
Snitchy sends.
A bottle of scotch and two aspirin a day will greatly reduce your awareness of heart disease.
http://snitchythedog.blogspot.com

Offline Too Bo Coo

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3955
  • The Adder Noir
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #3 on: 15 July 2014, 10:33:17 PM »
I have used this method on more than one occasion and it works pretty well.  The biggest thing that you want to remember is that do not do anything with a major undercut or high detail.  Most off the shelf silicone sealers will have a hard time with both. 
Snitchy sends.

Cheers for the feedback, I was hoping  gamer has tried this already!  I sort of suspected that this is a good method for larger objects without too much detail, thank you for the confirmation! :D

Offline Hu Rhu

  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • *
  • Posts: 3538
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #4 on: 21 July 2014, 12:22:40 PM »
What are the best materials to use once you have made the silicon mold?

Offline Too Bo Coo

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3955
  • The Adder Noir
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #5 on: 21 July 2014, 05:56:15 PM »
Resin, putty, perhaps alumilite

Offline Connectamabob

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1028
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #6 on: 27 July 2014, 02:16:49 PM »
This is another one I'm kinda surprised has taken so long to filter down to gaming modelers.

The purpose of "washing" the rubber in water is to accelerate curing by forcing moisture into the rubber (the curing process is hygroscopically triggered). Normally the putty cures slowly from the outside in because it's only getting moisture via air contact, but if you knead water directly into it, it cures faster and more evenly.

An alternative method is to mix powdered cornstarch into the caulk, which accelerates curing via moisture strapped in in the starch. See here: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-Your-Own-Sugru-Substitute/

Washing the caulk gets you a thick thixotropic gel, while cornstarch gets you a Play-Dough or Silly-Putty like putty.

Silicone caulk can also be thinned with naphtha to achieve a brushable consistency. This also softens the resulting rubber, making it more pliable (but also more easily torn). Great for lay-up coats to ensure good detail and prevent air bubbles, but the naphtha makes the rubber "hot", so you can't do this on anything that's been primed or painted, or the rubber will bond to the primer/paint.

I've done the water washing and naphtha thinning things myself, but have yet to personally try the cornstarch thing. I'll admit I'm a little concerned that casting media might adhere to the cornstarch in the rubber.

In regards to casting materials...

Epoxy glue.

Not putty: glue. The sort that comes in double syringes or HDPE bottles. Epoxy is a resin too. You know this from putties like GS, Aves, MagicSculpt, Milliput etc. Epoxy glue is kinda like that, but in pourable form instead of putty form.

Unlike urethane or polyester resins, epoxy plays very well with water and alcohol, so you can not only color it with ordinary paints, but you can also mix in a little water or alcohol to make it flow easier. Main thing is that it does generate a lot of heat as it cures, so use the 20 minute to 2 hour types for casting, not the 2-5 minute types. Short cure time means more concentrated heat, which with small amounts can create air bubbles, and with large amounts can cause heat damage to molds (or you), or in really large amounts even catch fire. I once had a casting that was roughly a 2" by 4" cylinder boil like a pasta pot before solidifying, and that was with 45 minute epoxy! On the plus side, that heat fully cured it in about 10 minutes instead of 45, but it was still kinda scary, and the core of the finished casting was a sponge of large bubbles.

Anyway, you can crank out a lot of tiles and bits and things using just 15 bucks worth of caulk and epoxy glue, and once painted it'll look just as good as polyurethane stuff. The range of things you can make isn't as diverse as with polyurethane and proper mold rubber, but for stuff like floor and wall tiles you can do wonders.

If you want to try something really nifty, hit up beauty supply shops for two part acrylic resin (it's used for making fake finger nails). It's usually a powder and a liquid hardener that're sold separately. Mix the two together, and it hardens in just a couple minutes into a fairly tough plastic (a little brittle in really thin applications, like a figure's arm, say, but tough as iron in thicker ones, like figure bases) that takes detail well. Downsides are it's kinda expensive and very fumey, but it's super-cool to use.

« Last Edit: 27 July 2014, 03:03:39 PM by Connectamabob »
History viewed from the inside is always a dark, digestive mess, far different from the easily recognizable cow viewed from afar by historians.

Offline Primus Pictor

  • Lurker
  • Posts: 1
Re: Silocone Molding Made Easy
« Reply #7 on: 02 September 2014, 09:23:00 AM »
Thanks all, for the tips and info!  Looking forward to trying this.

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
9 Replies
3945 Views
Last post 08 May 2007, 03:42:59 AM
by Bravo Six
3 Replies
3705 Views
Last post 30 November 2009, 09:06:50 AM
by Onimusha
6 Replies
2144 Views
Last post 18 February 2012, 09:55:26 AM
by Brummie
4 Replies
1837 Views
Last post 11 August 2013, 08:36:52 AM
by Dewbakuk
6 Replies
1991 Views
Last post 21 August 2016, 10:52:47 PM
by Fitz