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Offline delbruck

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Perry HYW French?
« on: 01 April 2015, 01:12:25 PM »
When Perry released their HYW English plastic box there was talk they would do French HYW in the future. Does anyone know if the plan is to release  plastic French foot or horse?

Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #1 on: 01 April 2015, 01:24:01 PM »
I have heard two different rumours:

1. The HYW French set will be a mix of mounted knights and foot (possible, but unlikely)
2. The HYW French set will be foot knights, crossbowmen and pikemen, and then there will be a third HYW set of generic mounted knights (which I think is the more likely outcome - although that's perhaps just wishful thinking on my part :))

Guessing we may see some greens at Salute perhaps, so we'll soon know I expect...

Offline Ray Earle

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #2 on: 01 April 2015, 01:44:47 PM »
There was a 3-up of an MAA on the workbench page that was described as 1390's or French, armed with a spear and wearing a sleeved surcoat(?). The figure didn't make it into the English box so I'm assuming that it will find its way into a French release.

Also when criticism of the static nature of the English archers were made, I believe, one of the Perries mentioned that figures from the French box would be much more dynamic.

I'd lean towards No2 of the good captains suggestions.  ;)
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Offline delbruck

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #3 on: 01 April 2015, 01:59:30 PM »
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Also when criticism of the static nature of the English archers were made, I believe, one of the Perries mentioned that figures from the French box would be much more dynamic

Funny, there are a lot of us who prefer static poses. I think those who prefer active poses are just more vocal in their criticism.
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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #4 on: 01 April 2015, 03:30:27 PM »
Funny, there are a lot of us who prefer static poses. I think those who prefer active poses are just more vocal in their criticism.
Isn't that always the way though ;)

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #5 on: 01 April 2015, 07:20:32 PM »
I have heard two different rumours:

1. The HYW French set will be a mix of mounted knights and foot (possible, but unlikely)
2. The HYW French set will be foot knights, crossbowmen and pikemen, and then there will be a third HYW set of generic mounted knights (which I think is the more likely outcome - although that's perhaps just wishful thinking on my part :))

Guessing we may see some greens at Salute perhaps, so we'll soon know I expect...

Will the twins be at Salute with all the Gallipoli stuff going on? I think they've just flown over there for a holiday.

Darrell.

Offline Agent Brown

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #6 on: 01 April 2015, 08:41:56 PM »

Also when criticism of the static nature of the English archers were made, I believe, one of the Perries mentioned that figures from the French box would be much more dynamic.
Never understood that. I mean, they're archers not gymnasts. What did people expect? There's only so many poses you can have when loosing an arrow. If they had produced fairly static Celtic tribesmen then criticise away.

Offline westwaller

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #7 on: 01 April 2015, 08:51:17 PM »
I think that some of us wanted some archers in the melee produced. The static archers are perfectly lovely but very much like the static archers from the WOTR box set in terms of excitement ;)

Offline Cubs

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #8 on: 01 April 2015, 09:02:24 PM »
It wasn't so much a 'static' pose I objected to in the archers set, more an awkward and stiff one. They have produced much better poses in previous boxed sets, even in 'static' poses such as a Napoleonic firing line.

One big issue for me was the shoulders, that just jutted out and made them stand like they'd had an unfortunate accident in their breeches (well, I guess they did have dysentery at Agincourt). I've heard this was largely due to the difficulties of modelling the hoods, which in reality would have covered the tops of the shoulders, but which in a multi-pose set with separate arms, clearly couldn't be done.

Either way, I think although it was a perfectly reasonable quality set and good for unit building, it was probably not the peak of the Perry's stuff and did not appeal to me. I'd prefer to pay a little more for their metals.
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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #9 on: 01 April 2015, 09:22:36 PM »
Will the twins be at Salute with all the Gallipoli stuff going on?

They'll be there.

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #10 on: 02 April 2015, 07:43:08 AM »
They'll be there.

Really hope so. I wanted to have a chat about any potential Sudan releases such as the Army Medical staff plus transport etc.

Darrell.

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #11 on: 02 April 2015, 09:19:10 AM »
Oh Cubs, I was initially one of those who was a bit disappointed by the Agincourt box set but inevitably I got caught up in the excitement on their release and got a box which sits awaiting my attention... I am hoping that when I do start assembling them, I won't find them ruined by your observation!

Still the Men At Arms are lovely...

I would agree that the archers were not the best of the Perrys releases though but in my experience, the Desert Rats box set was slightly worse- beautiful little miniatures, but some surprising bad casting especially on their water bottles. Anyway I'm off topic now, sorry.

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #12 on: 02 April 2015, 03:05:24 PM »
I am hoping that when I do start assembling them, I won't find them ruined by your observation!

I stress I haven't seen them in the flesh, so perhaps they look better in reality and/or they can be easily improved with a bit of trimming and a smidge of greenstuff to extend the hood over the tops of the shoulders.

Offline Ray Earle

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #13 on: 02 April 2015, 03:32:36 PM »
They're alright. I think the main issue is that they aren't as versatile as the WoTR box sets. Many of the figures take a bit of pre-planning (a fact that has left me buying some more sprues to replace the experimental figures I did first) and many of the archers arms seem to go with a specific body to make them look 'right'.

The MAA suffer from not having seperate heads (though god knows how they'd do it?) which tends to make multiple figures look fairly samey.

That said, its a nice set. Which look great when painted (theres even a couple of mine somewhere on this board), and hopefully with a more dynamic French set added should bring a load of options.

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Re: Perry HYW French?
« Reply #14 on: 02 April 2015, 07:53:29 PM »
I was slightly sceptical when I first got the set. You have to remember all the preceding medieval sets are by Michael - this one's by Alan, and they do have a slightly different style. But having worked with them now, I honestly think they're just as nice figures. And actually, having just panted a batch (you'll have to wait for the LPL to see those), I can testify that they are very enjoyable and easy figures to paint. (Painters will know what I mean here - some figures are a chore, some are an absolute pleasure. These fall into the latter category).
In short, they are a little different, but I like them just as much - the knights are actually very dynamic figures, and one or two of the longbowmen bodies do lend themselves to quite active poses if you have an eye for putting them together with a more active posture in mind.

I'm looking forward to the French  :)

 

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