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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #75 on: 08 August 2015, 11:36:55 AM »
There was a Jewish battalion part of the Warsaw National Guard that were armed in that way.- See W.J Fiedler
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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #76 on: 09 August 2015, 06:14:33 PM »
The Battle of Ostrolenka 1831 for the rule set Bloody Big Battles. Starting to turn my attention to the scenery called for in the scenario Chris Pringle has designed for his rule set Bloody Big Battles. The scenario calls for nine circular bases representing either villages or outlying town buildings. With this in mind I have mocked up a rough Polish peasants hut prior to getting some blanks cut, here are my thoughts so far.

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #77 on: 11 August 2015, 08:00:21 PM »
Some ideas for suitable Perry Mins figures for Polish infantry:

Prussian Musketeers

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #78 on: 11 August 2015, 08:14:01 PM »
Don't know if this will help but I have recently been researching Crimean war opolchenie(militia which you already clearly know)uniforms and weapons. Muskets in the 1850s were part percussion part flintlock-no pikes by the way.
Uniforms were exactly like in Napoleons wars. Light grey(but sometimes darker)coat and trousers with boots. Grey forage style caps with short black peaks with a brass cross on front. Black leather crossbealts are worn in two photographs from the mid 1850s.
Different uniforms could be worn. A simple but well detailed painting from the mid 1850s shows the above uniform with blue trousers,very dark green greatcoat,black cross belts knapsack straps etc,blue cap with usual brass cross. Oh and each man officers and other ranks has a red sash around waists.
The differences are really just colour though and most units simply wore grey. If there was no difference between 1812 and the Crimean war then clearly they were the same in between. Many opolchenie units served far from home. They served in Hungary(1849)Transylvania (1849)Persia (1826/28/29)and several units are mentioned crossing the Danube in 1828.
Plenty of figure makers make Napoleonic Russian militia. They are fine to use up to the Crimean war at least.

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #79 on: 11 August 2015, 10:15:07 PM »
Polish officers also dressed very similar to Prussians. Below is an example:

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #80 on: 11 August 2015, 10:17:40 PM »
For lancers the best option is the Polish Lancers from the Carlist War range and Murawski Miniatures post-1810 Uhlans:

http://murawskiminiatures.com/portfolio/uhlan-unit-deal-post-1810-2/
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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #81 on: 11 August 2015, 10:35:52 PM »
As for Polish volunteers the Landwehr look good enough. Althoug the Poles wore greatcoats with single row buttons. The Landwehr cavalry in litewka can also be easily converted for many volunteer units and Krakus.

There are also some very useful figures for Polish high commands in the French range.
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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #82 on: 12 August 2015, 06:57:29 AM »
If planning to use Prussian musketeers some work will be required with a file to get the correct shape to the shako

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #83 on: 12 August 2015, 06:59:31 AM »
An actual Polish Jager

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #84 on: 12 August 2015, 07:44:44 PM »
If planning to use Prussian musketeers some work will be required with a file to get the correct shape to the shako

There's no need to use the file if the shako has a covered pom-pom. You can see by the contemporary illustration below the covered shakos look very Prussian.
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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #85 on: 15 August 2015, 12:26:59 PM »
Murawski Miniatures have the perfect figures for the Krakow cavalry:

http://murawskiminiatures.com/portfolio/krakus-regiment-deal/

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #88 on: 24 August 2015, 08:00:25 AM »
some fascinating pictorial input here Nuno!

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Re: Gaming the Russo-Polish War/November Uprising 1830-31 in 28mm?
« Reply #89 on: 25 August 2015, 11:28:52 PM »
The Battle of Ostrolenka 1831 for the rule set Bloody Big Battles. Starting to turn my attention to the scenery called for in the scenario Chris Pringle has designed for his rule set Bloody Big Battles. The scenario calls for nine circular bases representing either villages or outlying town buildings. With this in mind I have mocked up a rough Polish peasants hut prior to getting some blanks cut, here are my thoughts so far.

Dont know where you get this design.. but no :P

Here you have Polish peasant hut from 1830 (it stand in the year of battle of Ostrołeka :)



Bear in mind its "kurna chata" - so without chimney. Furnaces with chimney were sign of wealth and prosperity in Polish villages at the time.

Another from the period


Those two are around 20 years after the War of 1830





As you see all except one were covered in hay, last one in wooden plaques (much rarer)
And not one of them has two module roof. Such construction like yours would be very rare in Poland. Most of the houses were very simple.

Page in wiki with few more photos
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chata
« Last Edit: 25 August 2015, 11:41:09 PM by AWu »

 

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