1938 A very British Civil War

[Hammers]

The konservative Engländer have always been a bit of Johnny-Kome-Latelys when it comes to social upheavals, haven't they...?

How's that? We were lopping off our king's head 140 years before it was fashionable in France! 


And yes, 'bob' means shilling (1/20th of a pound), old pal, rather than pound. As the currency went decimal when I was a wee baby it's not used these days except when speaking figaratively, e.g. "That's gonna cost a few bob to repair" ("That's going to be rather expensive to repair").  Sorry for teasing you about it. Only meant as harmless fun, as I'm sure you realised.

I certainly did realised. No worries there.

[Col.Stone]

I don't know if you've considered it, but the basic idea is quite transferable to a Very Lagom Swedish Civil War. It would probably happen about 20 years earlier*) at the time of the dissolution of the union with Norway and the 'Bondetåget' of 1914. But that is probably a discussion for the LAC (Sweden) forum...

*) The konservative Engländer have always been a bit of Johnny-Kome-Latelys when it comes to social upheavals, haven't they...?

i did consider it briefly, i didn't dream up such a wonderful name for it tho
"not too big, not too small and just a bit less than enough " =)
but as you say better discussed elsewhere

[Lowtardog]

I don't know if you've considered it, but the basic idea is quite transferable to a Very Lagom Swedish Civil War. It would probably happen about 20 years earlier*) at the time of the dissolution of the union with Norway and the 'Bondetåget' of 1914. But that is probably a discussion for the LAC (Sweden) forum...

*) The konservative Engländer have always been a bit of Johnny-Kome-Latelys when it comes to social upheavals, haven't they...?

i did consider it briefly, i didn't dream up such a wonderful name for it tho
"not too big, not too small and just a bit less than enough " =)
but as you say better discussed elsewhere

Ahaa now I know why you asked the question

[Col.Stone]

hehe, that too

[Hastings]

The new edition of 1938 A very British Civil War is now available from Solway Crafts and Miniatures ebay shop, Musketeer will also have them at Salute. The text is unchanged but the graphics and layout has been revised. For anyone owning the original that would like the new pictures they are available as a  free pdf from Solway

[warhammergrimace]

I've just read this thread, and have decided to jump into A Very British Civil war. I've been looking for a WW2 type game for a while and this has really sparked my interest. I've decided to go for a Cornish Army looking for independence from England.

Taking advantage of the civil war, a movement has begun to become an independent state under the name of Kernow, with ideas of expansion into Devon.

I intend to use a wide range of minis including, artizan, renegade, musketeer and anyone else I like the look of. I'm going to design some flags in photshop, based on the Cornish flag.

I intend to have the Cornish Light infantry as a core regular unit, with localised militias and guerilla units.

[warhammergrimace]

I've just come across this site about a miners milita that existed in cornwall up until 1909. (http://www.poldark-mine.co.uk/militias.htm)

I decided that they've been resurrected but under the new name of the 1st Kernow Miners Artillery Company.

[twrchtrwyth]

If your Cornish need any support, my Welsh will gladly introduce you to their Irish arms suppliers. Lol.

[warhammergrimace]

LOL, cool, Irish arms dealers.

I was thinking of having a small contingent of smugglers, who would get arms and equipment into Cornwall from France and Ireland. Along with a group of wreckers who would deliberately wreck ships of the coast. Both activities were carried out in Cornwall during the 19th Century, so a continuation of those activities would be expected.

This would also make for some interesting scenarios.

I plan to use the Island of Lundy an operational base for my smugglers operating between Ireland and Cornwall and the Scilly Isles an base for those operating between France and Cornwall. Which would give me some terrain ideas for those scenarios.

[TadPortly]

Until its transfer to the National Trust Lundy residents did not pay taxes to the United Kingdom and had to pass through customs when they travelled to and from Lundy Island. Although the island was ruled as a virtual fiefdom, its owner never claimed to be independent of the United Kingdom, in contrast to later territorial "micronations".

However, in 1924, Martin Coles Harman bought Lundy from the Christie family and immediately proclaimed himself a king. Harman issued two coins of Half Puffin and One Puffin denominations in 1929, nominally equivalent to the British halfpenny and penny, resulting in his prosecution under the United Kingdom's Coinage Act of 1870. The House of Lords found him guilty in 1931, and he was fined £5 with fifteen guineas expenses. The coins were withdrawn and became collectors' items. In 1965 a "fantasy" restrike four-coin set, a few in gold, was issued to commemorate 40 years since Harman purchased the island.[30] He died in 1954.

Given that Harman was still alive and kicking in the late 30s, I am sure he may well use a third civil war for an excuse to proclaim himself King of Lundy again.  Millcombe House could be the "Royal Residence" and 3m thick walls of Bulls' Paradise (Marisco Castle) used as an arsenal/bastion.  The three lighthouses and Fog Warning Battery (holding two ancient George IV 18-pounder cannons) would all make good look out points.

[warhammergrimace]

Yeah I was thinking along the lines that he would support an independent Cornwall in return for support of his kingship, and allowing the Cornish to use lundy as a smuggling base of operations  for a small fee.

[fastolfrus]

The three lighthouses and Fog Warning Battery (holding two ancient George IV 18-pounder cannons) would all make good look out points.

And a potentially interesting game - can the two 18 pounders be loaded ?

[fastolfrus]

We picked up the sourcebook on Saturday, plus some militia figures, already have some sailors and an assortment of chaps with rifles and lewis guns, so it looks like North Yorkshire is about to enter the fray, with a mixture of North Riding Territorials, school cadet corps, and a combined RNVR/RNLI rifles force, supported by an old u-boat deck gun.

[warhammergrimace]

The Kernow Light Infantry now have an armoured car, having bought one at Triples on Saturday.

[Hastings]

Not been on here for a while. Glad to see 1938 continuing to gain recruits and campaigns. We've got nothing on Cornwall at mo, although a few are taking up the Yorkshire and NE. Over on GWP we have a state of the war post for all the latest on campaigns feel free to contribute.