Steel Fist and Perry Sengoku Samurai Size Comparison

[Lagartija Mike]

Will they work together?

[THE CID]

I would say no. I prefer Steel Fist they are a lot chunckie rand are better cast.

[SotF]

Steel Fist look good, and while Perry's were around the same level, there's been some issues lately with regard to both shipping issues combined with molds that are wearing out.

One of the things with Steel Fist that would work well is that they would blend in rather well if you're going for larger units as heroes due to the larger side giving them that right feel. They also seem to be slightly more expensive, but you get what you pay for there and their detail makes them more easy to use, early on, for heroes and potentially things like Ronin with the small model count

[carlos13th]

I would say infantry would work together mounted troops would not, mind you I am not the kind to be easily bothered by scale discrepancy.

I agree with what others say that the casting on steel fist is considerably better than on their Perry counterparts. Yes they are more expensive but the extra price buys a great deal of quality.

What are you looking to play? If its something small like Ronin might be worth going full steel fist. Especially with the new Teppo and Yari Ashigaru coming out off the back of the kickstarer. If however you are looking for a larger force and want to mitigate some of the costs I would recommend using perry for your rank and file and steel fist for your unit leaders. The extra size of the steel fist would make them stand out as leaders.

Anyway onto the size comparisons and you can decide for yourself.

Guy with the big red hoop is steel fist, The rest are perry



Cavlary, Perry on the right and steel fist is the one next to it



Steel fist in the very middle and the unpainted guys either side. Clearly chunkier but to be not so much that I wouldn't use them in the same force.

[oliver.japan]

I would say no.

+1 

See below a comparison between my HONDA Tadakatsu in Steel Fist version (left) and Perry Miniatures (right):

[Lagartija Mike]

Thanks, guys. I'm hoping to open a club sometime around late October and wanted the first game to be a very large scale Sengoku battle. Money isn't a big issue but figure quality is: I'm very ok with modding figures but won't have the time to finesse armies that large.

[carabus03]

I would reccomend Steel Fist as well. There is a review on our blog and some painted versions:

https://telfordwargames.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/samurai-campaign-steel-fist-miniatures-review/

Neil

[Lagartija Mike]

Carabus, read your review and it's pretty clear Steel Fist is the way to go (the facial detail clinched it). My only concern is the range seems very limited. I considered using Perry for the rank and file but the size contrast, while not ludicrous, is getting on my nerves.

[Drachenklinge]

It has to be historical correct?

[olyreed]

I have to say, all the figures I have purchased from Steel fist are top notch, as good as the perry ones are, the casting is no where near as good as Steel fist, size wise, I have mixed both manufacturers and they look fine, although I do not have any of Steel fist ashigaru

[Lagartija Mike]

Drachenklinge, yes I'd prefer if they kept to the mid to late 1500s. I understand that conservative traditions in armor and weapons prevailed in certain domains like the (Odawara) Hojo or some of the very minor clans, but for the most part I'd like to keep anachronisms to a minimum.

[Drachenklinge]

I see, so that rules out a few companies, I guess, like AssaultGroup or ClanWars.

[Steel fist]

I am currently working on expanding the range with more low ranking troops, this year should see a lot of new releases out. I often ask my customers what they want to see the most and if you have any suggestions please let me know. Also thanks for All the positive comments on my range.

[Lagartija Mike]

SteelFist, I know it"s hard to prognosticate the exact ETA on things like this but do you have any idea when your go-kennin and below samurai and ashigaru might become available? I was hoping to place a very substantial order in the relatively near future.

[Steel fist]

The kickstarter stuff including advancing teppo and standing ashigaru should be available from next week, as my kickstarter order is now on its way to me. I also have started two pack of shooting ashigaru which will be released by the end of the summer hopefully sooner.
 plus I am going to make more standing samurai and yumi ashigaru and other things by the end of the year.
Hope this helps