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Offline Lotan

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #255 on: 13 August 2015, 01:54:04 AM »
The reason I asked was this opens up some interesting vaguely offensive uses of the spell, casting on an enemy when you don't care where he goes as long it's away from where he is standing right now.  Such as getting him out of combat or away from stood right by a treasure he hasn't picked up yet.


I think it has been clarified that Leap is a target friendly only spell in this thread somewhere!  :) Edit: Found the quote!


Lotan - Leap can only be cast on a model in your warband or one under your control. It can be used to leap someone off the board, such as to secure treasure.

« Last Edit: 13 August 2015, 01:56:22 AM by Lotan »

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #256 on: 13 August 2015, 05:40:21 AM »
I think it has been clarified that Leap is a target friendly only spell in this thread somewhere!  :) Edit: Found the quote!

But the confusion is understandable, as I don't think that restriction is mentioned anywhere in the printed rule book.

I think Osprey needs to compile a sheet of errata and clarifications and make it downloadable, rather sooner than later. Not necessarily everyone buying the rules will be attending this forum, and all players should have easy access to the knowledge compiled here.
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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #257 on: 13 August 2015, 07:35:54 AM »
I think Osprey needs to compile a sheet of errata and clarifications and make it downloadable, rather sooner than later.

That's the plan. Now Joe's back from holiday, we're on it.
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Offline pulpgoblin

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #258 on: 13 August 2015, 12:23:41 PM »
I think Osprey needs to compile a sheet of errata and clarifications and make it downloadable, rather sooner than later.

Only if they're going to start sending enforcers to all our houses/clubs to make sure we're all playing the same way  :D


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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #259 on: 13 August 2015, 12:56:32 PM »
2) I've always suspected that this spell might be overpowered, but playtesting feedback said it wasn't. That said, there seems to be more than average love for Necromancers out there, so I'm starting to suspect this coloured some of the playtesting!

I've been looking forward to getting to my Necromancer article so that I can proclaim this the dark horse best spell in the game. Now you've ruined it. Thanks :( Although Summon Imp isn't far off it, it at least has some weaknesses, BotE does not. Unless you play on a board that is like 90% not floor.

Basically anything that forces a fight roll is incredibly powerful in this game if that fight roll can do damage. Not sure I'd worry about it being overpowered at this point though. Anyone not trying to pack dispel at worst and dispel scrolls at best deserves everything they get :)
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Offline ducat

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #260 on: 13 August 2015, 02:30:33 PM »
Do/can both soothsayer casters use the same wizards eye, or is it exclusive to the spellcaster that cast it. (I suspect I may need two "eyes" to place, one for the wizard and one for the apprentice).




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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #261 on: 13 August 2015, 02:36:51 PM »
A spellcaster can only use a wizard eye they themselves cast. So, a wizard has one, the apprentice must have his own.

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #262 on: 13 August 2015, 05:21:19 PM »
A spellcaster can only use a wizard eye they themselves cast. So, a wizard has one, the apprentice must have his own.

On the subject of Wizard Eye, does the caster need LoS to the spot he is placing the eye, or does he just need LoS to the terrain that he is casting it on?

Example - I am looking directly at a wall, can I cast a Wizard Eye so that they eye is on the other side of the wall or does it need to be looking back towards me?

I thought the answer was number 1 but I can see that it is ambiguous.


Also, the biggy I've been waiting to ask:

How does Monstrous Form work? The whole spell is ambiguous. On a failed will check, does the would be attacker have to move away with that action instead? What constitutes away? Does he have to move at all as long as he doesnt go closer to the caster? Can he do something else with his action instead or must it be a move? Does it affects both of his actions for that turn or just the one in which he was intending to move? So many questions!

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #263 on: 14 August 2015, 10:54:04 AM »
Wizard Eye - you must have line of sight to the point on which the Wizard Eye will be placed.

Monstrous Form - To put it another way. If a figure fails its Will Roll it may not make a move that takes it closer to the spellcaster with Monstrous Form. There is no other effect, and the figure in question can take any other it is normally allowed to.

Offline ducat

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #264 on: 14 August 2015, 10:59:35 AM »
Scrolls on some summoning type spells....

With animate construct you take the no roll is required route and thus any version is easy to create as modifiers are applied to the roll and scroll negates need to roll. Correct?

With summon demon you will never get a demon from a scroll as you equal the cast roll and thus never beat it to actually get a demon type available. Correct?

If above is correct can you empower a scroll use (which then lets you create a score one point higher and thus getting an imp for example)

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #265 on: 14 August 2015, 12:23:25 PM »
When casting Animate Construct with a scroll there is no need to roll.

The Summon Demon spell has a typo. It should be '0-5 Imp', so when using a scroll you will always at least get an Imp (and wizards who don't know the spell will always get an imp).

Offline Aneirin

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #266 on: 16 August 2015, 09:52:46 PM »
I had a question, sorry if obvious.

Can a wizard cast possession on himself?

(Given that the summoning skill has no direct damage and you can get some xp from defeating people yuorself, rather than select attack spells from other schools I was thinking of having the wizard make himself a monster, possession, maybe foresight and strength if time and with some luck with the apprentice helping if he fails the casts, summon a demon have some dogs to provide assistance and have the wizard kill people with his bare hands to get some xp. Maybe give him leap or planeswalk as well so he can focus on the weaker ones)

I know it may not be wise...given that it will weaken his wisdom and make him more susceptible to spells and also make him susceptible to banishment and protection circle, but I like the idea, think it is a little different from what others in my group will be expecting (a load of demons) and I will probably be focusing on beefing up his will on level ups and hoping for magic weapons and armor. Maybe work on improving the more difficult to cast beef up spells such as strength of foresight to make sure the apprentice can soup up the crew more reliably. Maybe later on focus on summon demon as well.
« Last Edit: 16 August 2015, 10:08:08 PM by Aneirin »

Offline joe5mc

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #267 on: 17 August 2015, 10:44:37 AM »
I personally doubt the wisdom of such a move, and think only the most ambitious or insane wizards would ever try it, but I don't see any reason that it isn't legal.

Offline Aneirin

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #268 on: 17 August 2015, 01:01:26 PM »
I personally doubt the wisdom of such a move, and think only the most ambitious or insane wizards would ever try it, but I don't see any reason that it isn't legal.

An insane ambitious demon summoner. Well that just makes me want to do it more!

Offline drfunk

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Re: Frostgrave - Rules (Questions, Errata, Clarifications)
« Reply #269 on: 17 August 2015, 11:54:21 PM »
For purposes of Mind Control and Bind Demon, if I Possess a soldier, do they still count as Soldiers for Mind Control or Demons given the spells interpretation? Or is it just a buff with fluff text?

 

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