Xmas Colonial PRESEPE

[Operator5]

Who makes those lying camels?

Don't know who makes those, but ebob is making some nice ones right now.

[Shikari Sahib]

according to Google translate the Italian word PRESEPIO or PRESEPE is CRIB in english and CRECHE in french. According to wikipedia "a crib is an infant bed in American English (British English: cot)".

Where are St Mary and St Joseph? I cannot see them in your picture.

they are not in my pics, will be included with young Christ on the 25th , they are all toys.
also Kings Magi 8translation???) will be added on the 6th Jan.

[Shikari Sahib]

Pierrebi St. Joseph and Mary are visible in the main pic, they are in the upper part on the right.

[twrchtrwyth]

also Kings Magi 8translation???) will be added on the 6th Jan.

The Wise men. And nowhere in the Bible does it say that there were 3 of them.

[pierrebi]

The Wise men. And nowhere in the Bible does it say that there were 3 of them.
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The New American Bible http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVB.HTM call them Magi
When Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of King Herod, behold, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, (Mt 2,1)

Magi: originally a designation of the Persian priestly caste, the word became used of those who were regarded as having more than human knowledge. Matthew's magi are astrologers.

The bible say they bring 3 different gift
"They prostrated themselves and did him homage. Then they opened their treasures and offered him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh." (Mt 2,11)

[Shikari Sahib]

The Wise men. And nowhere in the Bible does it say that there were 3 of them.

The New American Bible http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVB.HTM call them Magi
When Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of King Herod, behold, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, (Mt 2,1)

Magi: originally a designation of the Persian priestly caste, the word became used of those who were regarded as having more than human knowledge. Matthew's magi are astrologers.

The bible say they bring 3 different gift
"They prostrated themselves and did him homage. Then they opened their treasures and offered him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh." (Mt 2,11)

Thanks



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[Hammers]

We have the same tradition in Sweden. We call it 'krubba', which means fodder through. The wife and I being rationalists/atheists/Darwininist/'brights'/ or what ever the label is, we did a animal nativity scene with gorillas last year.

[Shikari Sahib]

We have the same tradition in Sweden. We call it 'krubba', which means fodder through. The wife and I being rationalists/atheists/Darwininist/'brights'/ or what ever the label is, we did a animal nativity scene with gorillas last year.

very funny
in the past I have done my presepes-nativity scene in India-NWF  1900 era , American Plains with Indians in 1870;during the French and Indian war 1750,  and in Palestine ancient time.
the locations are connected with my principal wargame's period interest

[Le matou rouge]

The wife and I being rationalists/atheists/Darwininist/'brights'/ or what ever the label is, (...)

So am I, but my mother isn't, so each Christmas, she really likes set her crèche - as pierrebi rightly translate :



(Sorry for the crappy photos, it was a quick shot from a visit the last WE).
For the record, the figurines are called santons de Provence (where they came from) and the scenery is far more personnal   

To Pierrebi, Joseph & Marie are in the background : the villagers have to walk to them till the 24th December.
( I advanced them when I was a kid : now, don't ask from where came my figs addiction )

meow,
Matt

PS : @ Shikari Sahib
It's a really nice idea to convert your figs in a "presepe" and I really like the way you vary the settings...
   

[twrchtrwyth]

Hi friends, here in Italy is very common to arrange a Presepe( cannot found translation in English , sorry  ) for Xmas;

Just occured to me that it's preseb in Welsh. I'm assuming that it's a Latin word the Romans brought with them.

[pierrebi]

The wife and I being rationalists/atheists/Darwininist/'brights'/ or what ever the label is, (...)

So am I, but my mother isn't, so each Christmas, she really likes set her crèche - as pierrebi rightly translate :

Today Christmass is a birthdayparty with out the celebrated person
You cannot believe the littlle baby is God children, but how can you celebrate his birth day with out him?
You cannot believe the little baby is God, but how cannot understand his message of peace and attention to pour people?
You cannot believe the little baby is God, but how cannot understand the christmass is a time to go to meet other people?


even if we christian people know that Jesus never born in Betlhem, never listened to singing angels, never had presents from shepherds, never had presents from magi ... we use this symbols to say respect to poor people and to say we have to spend some time to meet other people ... this is christmass even if they tell us we have to spend money! Is a message everyboy can understand and recognise good, and Nativity scene tell us this message. If you believe that this a God message is OK, but if you do not believe in God why not listening to this little child message?

[Le matou rouge]

Pierrebi,

I am terribly embarrassed because you quoted me, so out of politeness, I feel obliged to answer.
But I'm sure you know how it's hard to explain oneself in a foreign langage.
So to keep it short, and in true respect, I just think it is not the place for proselytism.

With regards,
Matthieu

[argsilverson]

If you believe that this a God message is OK, but if you do not believe in God why not listening to this little child message?

I agree on that. The problem is that most of those believing in God, seldom listen to this message!

I just think it is not the place for proselytism.

With regards,
Matthieu

I agree on that, too!

Just for making intriguing somewhere in the scripts it is mentioned that it  was a fourth king/wise man/mago, who missed the event ....

[Argonor]

3 names are mentioned

Melchior, Balthazar, and Gaspar

For a tale of the 4th, see:

http://genecurtis.com/WiseMan4.htm

[Shikari Sahib]

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PS : @ Shikari Sahib
It's a really nice idea to convert your figs in a "presepe" and I really like the way you vary the settings...
   
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Matt, thanks for compliments, your presepe looks like many people do here in Italy.simple and typical.
Piero