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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Harry Faversham on May 31, 2024, 05:36:18 PM
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What's the Brethren's take?
In my 'umble opinion the return of Russell T Davies is brilliant, with one minor winge...
It's OK to be all arty-farty like, but it's the Daleks/Cybermen that carry that show!
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I really like the new series, so far.
Personally I'd sooner we never saw another cyberman or dalek. Lets have some new opponents. Endlessly defeating the same opponents in a time travel show gets stale real quick, IMHO.
Dr Who vs Cthulhu - now there's an episode I'd relish :D
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I haven't watched it since Jon Pertwee left...
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I managed to watch one episode so far.
Its not making me feel "oh I got'ta watch another".
might try to get round to another new one - not getting into it much yet.
Probably because they labelled it "series 1" - I mean really?
I went through all the John Pertwee ones available on Iplayer already a while back.
stopped halfway through the Tom Baker era.
Cthulhu crossovers and such would be nice.
Get some Old ones in there, see if they remember him.
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Frankly I thought the first two episodes were rubbish. They had a completely different feel to a normal DW episode, and were very childish. Third one was clever and thought provoking, and the fourth one was excellent. Hopefully it will continue to improve.
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The Christmas special was so-so, the first episode was bulk info dump and so unmemorable I had to look up the plot, the second was grim.
Steven Moffat gave a couple of his hobby horses a re-run (Doctors Daughter and the one with David Walliams and the minotaur spring to mind).
The fourth was up there with Midnight.
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Frankly I thought the first two episodes were rubbish. They had a completely different feel to a normal DW episode, and were very childish. Third one was clever and thought provoking, and the fourth one was excellent. Hopefully it will continue to improve.
Probably why I am struggling, to get to bothering with it, think I will take your advice and skip to episode 3/4 and try.
Just the first episode left me, meh. - tried the second barely got past the start sequence.
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The return of RTD as showrunner is dreadful, the only positive is that he is slightly less abysmal at the job than his bestie Christopher Chibnall.
Between them they have destroyed what was a genre defining character and series.
It is crap.
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Hardly watched any of the re-imagined latest Doctors. Just cannot be bothered with them. The stories I've seen lack imagination and more importantly a sense of danger and suspense, perhaps this is due to the "adventures" being mainly single one hour episodes rather than a serial of 3 or more programmes?
The Pertwee and Baker years, to me, were superior - but then I was a lot younger!
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Hardly watched any of the re-imagined latest Doctors. Just cannot be bothered with them. The stories I've seen lack imagination and more importantly a sense of danger and suspense, perhaps this is due to the "adventures" being mainly single one hour episodes rather than a serial of 3 or more programmes?
The Pertwee and Baker years, to me, were superior - but then I was a lot younger!
Totally agree. The Christopher Ecclestone period was OK, but I gradually became disinterested. The flying shark Christmas episode was the last straw for me.
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I have enjoyed most of the more recent Dr Who (Ecclestone onwards) but the first two episodes of the current Doctor were dire! What was that song and dance routine in episode 2 all about? "Oh Bugger! We have finished the story and got some time to fill, what shall we do?"
I do sometimes daydream of the Pertwee/Baker eras, made with todays production technology!
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I do sometimes daydream of the Pertwee/Baker eras, made with todays production technology!
Hell Yes, currently watching the first doctor on Iplayer, can't be bothered with the new Dr. in all honesty......
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No spoilers but today's episode was very good, satire with kick.
"I used to watch Doctor Who when I was young but now it is just a stupid kids' show!"
- Private Eye 1624
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RTD channels Charlie Brooker.
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No spoilers but today's episode was very good, satire with kick.
Excellent episode and very impressed with the final scene given it was apparently the first thing from this series that Ncuti Gatwa actually shot. "It's a timey-wimey thing" :D
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Its been an interesting series, and we are already half way through and each story has been quite different.
Last week was the disturbing ghost story.. Im thinking MR James and Ramsey Campbell.
This week it was Black Mirror.
Doctor Who is often at its best when it channels [ie nicks] varios sources.
I dont think we are going to get a traditional runaround with old monsters any time soon, though we WILL be getting UNIT.
Also two Doctor Lite stories in a row feels odd. That was the sort of thing you'd get one of in a 13 episode run.
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last week with the fairy ring/ghost story was intriguing, kept us guessing "whodunnit".
reminded us of the Davison/Baker "Watcher" in a way.
the latest one was very dark, very enjoyable.
quite a high bodycount and interesting monster.
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I always enjoy a goblin episode, though.
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Having caught up with the latest 5 episodes I have to say my opinion has changed. Episodes 3-5 have been much darker in mood, and have had intriguing and varied story lines. I am certainly inspired to watch more of the series, it has much improved on the first two episodes (which I still think were blah!).
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I almost got the impression that the first 2 episodes were a deliberate two-fingered salute at someone
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I almost got the impression that the first 2 episodes were a deliberate two-fingered salute at someone
The reviewer in Private Eye thought so as well.
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The most recent episode was the first that really caught my attention this series...then kinda lost it at the end which felt a bit tagged on.
If my daughter (10) wasn't enjoying it we'd probably have stopped by now.
Never watched much of the pre Ecclestone Doctors...except Sylvestor McCoy when I was a kid and I don't really remember much of him. In our house we all liked Eccleston and Tennet but it all got increasingly wishy-washy after that. For us, David Tennet is the Doctor.
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The most recent episode was the first that really caught my attention this series...then kinda lost it at the end which felt a bit tagged on.
If my daughter (10) wasn't enjoying it we'd probably have stopped by now.
Never watched much of the pre Ecclestone Doctors...except Sylvestor McCoy when I was a kid and I don't really remember much of him. In our house we all liked Eccleston and Tennet but it all got increasingly wishy-washy after that. For us, David Tennet is the Doctor.
I'm with you on David Tennant being my favourite Doctor but the ending was what made the show for me. The inhabitants of Finetown slowly go from a bunch of helpless, mildly irritating targets we feel sorry for to being revealed as a bunch of self serving, self absorbed, over entitled, white, rich kids sailing off to oblivion and the Doctor has to deal with the fact that he can't save those who don't want to be saved (by the likes of him!).
I've liked the series from the off and feel it is just getting stronger and stronger.
Am I just a cynic or does Russel T Davis not like modern society much? :)
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Never watched much of the pre Ecclestone Doctors.
some of us are old enough to have started in black & white.
I liked Hartnell but was surprised/puzzled/confused by the first regeneration into Troughton, and it took a while to get used to the changeover.
But Troughton faced some classic opponents.
Liked this latest episode as bringing it back to a dark storyline, and one where the doctor cannot automatically win the day and save the planet.
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Well I liked tonight's. The Boy, now 12, said it was the best of the series.
I'm liking Ncuti Gatwa so far, I just wish he'd stop the quiet serious line followed by the massive affirmatory shout.
"Everyone you know is dead, and you're going to die too and I'm so so sorry there's nothing I can do about it....
EXCEPT BE FABULOUS FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES!"
I know, that's the script and direction, not the actor, but it's the one thing about Dr 15 that's starting to grate.
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I almost got the impression that the first 2 episodes were a deliberate two-fingered salute at someone
who? (pardon the pun)
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I almost got the impression that the first 2 episodes were a deliberate two-fingered salute at someone
The reviewer in Private Eye thought so as well.
who? (pardon the pun)
Two words (5,4), owner is a non-dom for tax purposes.
Said 'paper still gave the first two episodes a good review.
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Working that out was actually more entertaining than the series has been.
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Did anyone watch the omnibus version of Pyramids of Mars (top and tailed by 15 and Ruby) last week?
Great continuity, the voice artist for Sutekh was the same person.
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Yes we caught the "Tales from the Tardis" and thought it was a good idea.
We also spotted that "Sister Boniface" had a SF episode this week "Professor Y".
Utter bunkum but some interesting costumes
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There are six other stories top and tailed by relevant Doctors/Companions available on iPlayer.
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The reviewer in Private Eye thought so as well.
who? (pardon the pun)
Two words (5,4), owner is a non-dom for tax purposes.
Said 'paper still gave the first two episodes a good review.
seriously... who?
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This is what was going through my head during the finale.
Everybody''s dead, Dave.
"Even the Daleks?"
Everybody's dead, Dave.
Everbody is dead.
Everybody is dead. Dave.
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There are six other stories top and tailed by relevant Doctors/Companions available on iPlayer.
cheers, I wondered if there might be some others, I'll have a look for them now
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After watching the whole series, I genuinely think for me it was one of the worse series of doctor who going. I did not particulalry enjoy any episode bar the season finale, which I thought was a significant imporvement on the rest of the series, even though the plot was pretty dull in the finale episode.
I do think Nucti Gatwa was brilliant as a the doctor, it's just a shame that because of his scheduling for netflix and disney's desire to have a short eight episode series, it just felt like you never grew to learn who the doctor was in this series. Same thoughts for Millie Gibson and her relationship with the doctor.
I do not understand how anyone liked the episode 'Boom' I thought it was benine and remember laughing the whole way through it with two friends. I understand I am probably in the minority regarding this but I just couldn't believe Steven Moffat could have written it.
I enjoyed bringing back Mell (though done by Chris Chibnall originally). I enjoyed seeing Unit even if they did nothing the whole series (much like the Doctor). I also found the way Moffat and RTD talked about their staff in the behind the scenes episodes was an appauling attitude to have.
But if people like it I'm glad, stuff can't always stay the same and it is good to experiment with such a litteraly open-world TV show.
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Must admit I thought the whole series pretty forgettable over all, apart from the really bad bits which I really remember for Al the wrong reasons…….two or three episodes were watchable, but that’s all I can say about them. The finale was decent in the first part and poor in the second. As to the bad bits, the first two episodes were execrable, and the fairy godmother at the end was just bewildering rubbish. I get the feeling that the Disney influence is pulling this down to a pre teen audience. Pity really, because when the series is good it is quite thought provoking.
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It’s been boring crap since Tom Baker left. Harumph! (Rustles The Times)…
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hopefully its as low as it goes and next one will be a better series again overall. Trying to find the umph to bother watching the last episodes, its proving difficult
Still - It is a "new doctor - new stuff settle in thing" maybe
I am sure if they really try they can go even lower.
Or his screwdriver will develop a lightsabre attachment..
I will have to watch the end of the series now just in case they did that already lol
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something to consider is that Ncuti was filming the final season of Sex Education at the same time, hence two Doctor light episodes with Dot & Bubble and 73 Yards.
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Other than the first two episodes, I've enjoyed this series, in particular Dot & Bubble and The Legend of Ruby Sunday. I agree that Nucti Gatwa has been brilliant as as the Doctor - my only peeves being how often he cries and give him a defining costume!
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Ok got there, it was.. ok
Although to be fair I then watched the Tom Baker first encounter with Sutie and enjoyed that more :D
I mean really dog leash ? sigh.
And after all that time attached to the Tardis watching Sutie still did not learn to behave better.
Overall, Dot and 73 Yards probably the best of the lot to me.
Lets see how they do when they have the main character more available. expect tears I suppose. lots of them. first two were bottom of the pile.
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I actually rather liked this series- but I do have to agree that the first few episodes were truly abysmal. The finale was a little lacking for me as well, it felt too Marvel-esque rather than a proper Doctor Who ending. Dot and 73 yards were both good though, and I rather enjoyed Rogue as well :)
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something to consider is that Ncuti was filming the final season of Sex Education at the same time, hence two Doctor light episodes with Dot & Bubble and 73 Yards.
But everyone says these are the three best episodes, and these three are light on the actual Dr.?
Not been able to force myself to watch yet, sigh! I have just re-watched entire Tom Baker regeneration (my Doctor), now watching from first to third, still on first!
Anyone else see a potential problem?
We shall see, or I will at least, eventually lol ;)
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Late to the thread, but, yes, the early Dr. Who eps were with the nostalgia glasses on. Wafer-thin plot, no budget (not that they gave Dr. Who any). IMO, It was the actor who played the Doctor carrying the show. The NPCs were, imo, pretty worthless. My fave was Pertwee, who seemed to do the best job at haranguing the worthless humans he was surrounded by and tapping into my youthful introverted anti-society blah-de-blah-ism. Oh, and K9 was a nicely OP lackey. :D
Finetown sounds interesting, but, given the certain behavior of social media (at least in the USA), the ending had better be (spoiler) a subtle patronizing "we know better than you do and don't make an effort to learn otherwise, so be a good lad and do what we say even though it doesn't do anything, other than let us feel superior" (not that we need social media to do this...).
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But everyone says these are the three best episodes, and these three are light on the actual Dr.?
Dot & Bubble and 73 Yards are two episodes. Both very well done, but still only two of them.
Finetown sounds interesting, but, given the certain behavior of social media (at least in the USA), the ending had better be (spoiler) a subtle patronizing "we know better than you do and don't make an effort to learn otherwise, so be a good lad and do what we say even though it doesn't do anything, other than let us feel superior"
have you seen it? it's not patronising and it wasn't until the final shots that I realised it myself.
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seriously... who?
Given the provided "clues" and the baby theme of the first two episodes, I'm guessing they're referring to James Caan, given he infamously once tried to buy a baby from a refugee.
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Still not sure why that’s cropping up in Who now… 🤷♂️
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Just have Quentin Tarantino produce 'em his way. guns Guns GUNS!
Well, you asked how it could be made worse, so......
Anyhow, I grew up with the series, and mourn for what it has become under the guidance of a company that just didn't "get it". It didn't "get" a lot of things.
I still have some of my Dr. Who minis though. Old habits die hard.