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Miniatures Adventure => Call of Cthulhu => Strange Aeons => Topic started by: zobo1942 on 07 March 2011, 09:08:48 PM
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Check it out:
http://collider.com/at-the-mountains-of-madness-tom-cruise/79321/
Lovecraft is about to get waaaaaaaay more popular.
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Check it out:
http://collider.com/at-the-mountains-of-madness-tom-cruise/79321/
Lovecraft is about to get waaaaaaaay more popular.
Is that a good thing?
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Never really imagined Cruise for the role...I'm starting to get worried... Like, really worried, like when they were making Judge Dredd the movie and I was really excited to see it even thou I knew it was going to suck...and it did... :? :'(
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all 5 ft of him. ::)
I wonder if his Scientology cronies will think less of him? (Doubtful, did anyone see Battlefield: Earth :-X what a stinker...)
Apparently his reps updated an hour ago via a tweet or a twitter or whatever-you-call-it saying he was still NOT confirmed for the project.
I guess attaching a big name star and producer would help secure a big budget. I just hope the budget goes to good special effects and locations and not to paying Mr. Cruise.
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all 5 ft of him. ::)
Hey, cut some slack. He can be play a short penguin just fine.
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but a short albino penguin? That would be a feat quite beyond his abilities methinks. ;D
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...I guess attaching a big name star and producer would help secure a big budget...
Yup. so it seems.
... I just hope the budget goes to good special effects and locations and not to paying Mr. Cruise.
Don't forget that hopefully some of the $ will go to a decent script that has something to do with the story written by H.P.L.
We shall see.
But I have for the most part given up on Hollywood doing justice to any book/story/comic that I like.
:'(
all 5 ft of him....
But think of the $ hollywood can save by using real live penguins instead of having to pay for CGI giant ones!
Amalric
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Oh no, a midget man-squealing in the arctic is a real turn-off :(
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Tom Cruise is being allowed to fuck CoC up?
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Yup. so it seems.Don't forget that hopefully some of the $ will go to a decent script that has something to do with the story written by H.P.L.
We shall see.
But I have for the most part given up on Hollywood doing justice to any book/story/comic that I like.
:'(
But think of the $ hollywood can save by using real live penguins instead of having to pay for CGI giant ones!
Amalric
I totally agree. A good script will be key to this project as most of the story has precious little dialogue. Regardless, I don't think I like the idea of Tom Cruise "squeeling" his way though HPL (great term Silversixx).
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Tom Cruise is being allowed to fuck CoC up?
They're basically doing a remake of Mission Impossible 3 with all the exterior changed to snow and mountains. And a small splash of Days of Thunder (One of the best films ever!) in the end when the main character is chased down an enormous rollercoasteresque avalanche/path on a sledge, chased by some star spawns on snow mobiles.
-Chtulhu, Frag'em!
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I totally agree. A good script will be key to this project as most of the story has precious little dialogue. Regardless, I don't think I like the idea of Tom Cruise "squeeling" his way though HPL (great term Silversixx).
Can you just imagine TC trying to out act an Elder Thing, as he surely will try to...
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-Chtulhu, Frag'em!
:D lol
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Can you just imagine TC trying to out act an Elder Thing, as he surely will try to...
That kind of "Risky Business" will have "Collateral Damage"
(Sorry, I'll stop now...)
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Can you just imagine TC trying to out act an Elder Thing, as he surely will try to...
Actually, my sources tells me that he has invented a brand new elder thing.
Its called Jmp'n'Opraaas'Couuch.
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I re-read this thread and my eyes started to bleed...quite possibly the worst news ever...
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SHOW ME THE TENTACLES!!!
You had me at Ftagn??
I want the Truth!
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE CTRUTHLU!
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I think it's time to call out Azathoth now...
SHOW ME THE TENTACLES!!!
You had me at Ftagn??
I want the Truth!
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE CTRUTHLU!
... on the other hand, it might make a good comedy! ;D
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Yeesh, I walk away for an hour and this thread goes off the deep end! ;)
Cruise has put in a few decent performances (rather liked him in The Last Samurai), so that doesn't necessarily worry me. My concern is the impact of his presence, insofar as every film he's in automatically turns into a Tom Cruise movie, wherein he portrays a larger-than-life individual who is the linchpin of the entire plot. This doesn't really work in the world of Lovecraft, where the underlying point is the insignificance of humankind in general when faced with the unspeakable horrors of the cosmos.
"Oh god, squamous tentacled horrors are rising from the earth. We're doomed.... DOOMED!!! Oh, wait, there's Tom Cruise! WE'RE SAVED!!"
One sees where this could end very badly.
Still, I put a lot of trust in Guillermo Del Toro. Not so much in James Cameron though - his involvement actually worries me the most, given he hasn't made a really good film since The Abyss. Regardless, reserving judgement until I see a trailer. However, if Cruise shoots Cthulhu's head off with a rocket launcher, I'm just gonna give up on society and go live in the woods...
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every film he's in automatically turns into a Tom Cruise movie, wherein he portrays a larger-than-life individual who is the linchpin of the entire plot.
So he's playing a shoggoth then?
the world of Lovecraft, where the underlying point is the insignificance of humankind in general when faced with the unspeakable horrors of the cosmos.
Sounds like Hubbard's works, and I've heard TC is a big fan of them.
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Sounds like Hubbard's works, and I've heard TC is a big fan of them.
Fan of them? He's ONE of them ;)
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I have a lot of faith in Del Toro, that said I really am not a Tom Cruise fan....I mean I find him borderline unwatchable, he just comes off as a little midget basketcase. However Ron Perlman will be in it as well so thats a big plus!
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A good script will be key to this project as most of the story has precious little dialogue.
This is key, give him a good script and I'm sure he'll perform but I think the success of the film will firmly rest on the script regardless of who they have starring in it.
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So purely out of interest what big Hollywood star of today would do the movie justice as main character? (yea I said of today, else we get a bunch of names I am to young to remember)
Anybody who has given a going mad with realization act worth of HPL in the past?
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project killed.
http://collider.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim/79355/
(see the update in red)
EDIT: Also, why was everyone so down on Tom Cruise being in it? I would have thought that the important news would have been 'Big Budget, Big Screen Lovecraft Adaption'... which (I think) hasn't really been done since Boris Karloff starred in 'Die, Monster, Die!' If successful, it would have proved that HPL is bankable and opened the door for other filmmakers to adapt HPL stories - maybe starring someone you'd prefer.
I would have thought that just the fact that it was being done would have been good news - it may have interested a lot more people in playing 'Strange Aeons', for one.
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So Universal killed Mountains of Madness because they're worried it won't make any money, yet they think some rehash godzilla-esque flick is bank. Ugh.
I'm glad I read the book. It also didn't have Tom Cruise starring.
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project killed.
http://collider.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim/79355/
(see the update in red)
EDIT: Also, why was everyone so down on Tom Cruise being in it? I would have thought that the important news would have been 'Big Budget, Big Screen Lovecraft Adaption'... which (I think) hasn't really been done since Boris Karloff starred in 'Die, Monster, Die!' If successful, it would have proved that HPL is bankable and opened the door for other filmmakers to adapt HPL stories - maybe starring someone you'd prefer.
I would have thought that just the fact that it was being done would have been good news - it may have interested a lot more people in playing 'Strange Aeons', for one.
Drag....
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Yes, it does suck - a lot.
I was really hoping that a 'major' Lovecraft film would wake up a lot of people to HPL (and the rest of the Lovecraft Circle's) Cthulhu mythos. What could have come next - Delta Green-inspired action movies? A 'Lovecraftian' miniseries? 'Cthulhu on the Orient Express'? The interest generated in the Mythos by a major motion picture would have gone a long way to help 'cottage' industries that deal with various types of lovecraft-inspired materials... Like Strange Aeons, like HPLHS' films (Call of Cthulhu, Whisperer in Darkness...) - never mind all the amateur writers who write Lovecraft-inspired fiction that sits in a drawer because nobody will publish it.
Hopefully, it will get made - Tom Cruise, or no. Otherwise, we'll be left with 'The Last Lovecraft', or similar.
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"H. P. Lovecraft In Love"
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What are you worried about with Tom Cruise? I think it's a move of genius. Given his -ahem- diminutive stature it will save millions by making the CGI-generated mountains look twice as tall as they are.
On the other hand, if they go realist, they're contemplating calling it Tiny hillocks of being upset a bit.
I hope Gwynneth Paltrow plays a penguin. I want to hear her Supporting Oscar speech for the performance.
And on the subject of penguins, is Danny de Vito on board with the project? He's played a killer penguin.
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in the end when the main character is chased down an enormous rollercoasteresque avalanche/path on a sledge, chased by some star spawns on snow mobiles.
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I'd watch it.
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EDIT: Also, why was everyone so down on Tom Cruise being in it? I would have thought that the important news would have been 'Big Budget, Big Screen Lovecraft Adaption'... which (I think) hasn't really been done since Boris Karloff starred in 'Die, Monster, Die!' If successful, it would have proved that HPL is bankable and opened the door for other filmmakers to adapt HPL stories - maybe starring someone you'd prefer.
I would have thought that just the fact that it was being done would have been good news - it may have interested a lot more people in playing 'Strange Aeons', for one.
I see your point, but to be honest, it's hard for me to fathom any sort of mainstream appeal of HPL, regardless of the star or the Budget.
To the likes of people like us, sure, but to most folks, it's just poorly written- comic book pulp fare.
Best case scenario is that the film has a minor success, us fanboys are pleased, while the rest of the world forever will think Cthulhu has something to do with Tom Cruise.
Part of the appeal, at least to me, is the fact that it is so under the radar to normal society. HPL's works are a bit like the forbidden knowledge he so often writes about...We are the 'knowing' Miskatonic Professors, while the public at large is blissfully unaware of the unspeakable horrors that lurk in the small hours of the night.
Part of me is saddened, as it would be very cool to be able to see how it is interpreted, but part of me is glad that I don't need Hollywood's vindication that this is a cool universe to hang out in. HPL doesn't deserve to be just another Hollywood franchise that is churned out, and then fades away into DVD history.
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Well said!
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Agreed.
and it looks like this film will get put on a shelf indefinetly until a studio picks up the pre-production $150 mil price tag and some hot-shot exec figures that this film will make some money. GdT, TC and JC attached to the project should hopefully guarantee that it gets made, maybe just not for a couple years...
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It got dropped today. The studio did not want a "R" rating...
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/03/guillermo-del-toro-madness-has-gone-dark.html
:'(
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...but to most folks, it's just poorly written- comic book pulp fare.
That hasn't stopped plenty of movies from being mainstream successes.
Unfortunately, I don't think this project is anything more than the carrot-and-stick that the studio uses to keep del Toro working on their projects. They've been promising him "you can do it after the next film" for several films now. I doubt it will ever get made, at least while he stays with them.
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Guess what...
I have decided to stop worrying about the film that could not be, and instead re-read the novella.
Good night, gentlemen.
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Cruise would be a mere snack for the Big C (& who wouldn't pay good money to see Chthulu nibble Off Tom's limbs one by one.... >:D?). BUT if it's made by Hollywood, it will have to have a happy ending - thats not exactly Lovecraft's style is it?
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I know little of Lovecraft, aprt from a documentary I once watched but I thinks that's enough to declare this a match made in heaven. Of course I will wait to see if it gets a recommendation from Oprah before I commit.
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Which eldritch horror has a freakishly large head?
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ANY Cthulhu is good Cthulhu. It's the original X-Files my friends, alien beasties and beings, the truth is out there, secret conspiracies and cabals. All good. And the Mountains of Madness is the inspiration for The Thing and its variants, btw, so this would be fun to see. However, I think Johnny Depp would make this movie into blockbuster material!!
Here's a fan trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw3tuiND_xk&feature=related
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That was entertaining!
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Make your voice heard - sign the iPetition to get this movie made:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mountainsofmadness/ (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mountainsofmadness/)
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Cool trailer. and no Tom Cruise either :)
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I'm pretty fed up watching Johnny Depp - the guy is so full of himself imo, you can really sense that he knows that he is adored by a bunch of fan boys. I like his acting well enough in a lot of movies, but the frequent Tim Burton movies and the Pirates series really messed him up and he pretty much plays the same character over and over again. I felt like as if I was looking at a Jack Sparrow performance while watching the Public Enemies movie.
Tom Cruise may be a weirdo in his private life, I don't really care about his personal stuff. I think he is a solid actor - Last of the Samurai and Born on the 4th of July comes to mind. I think he could have pulled off being a main character in a movie like this.
I am glad that Guillermo Del Toro dropped this movie when he couldn't enforce his R rating. Let's face it, PG13 movies tend to suck. A Lovecraft movie without the true horror, death, madness and despair would be a complete and utter waste of film. Just read reviews of Battle: Los Angeles which has a PG13 rating and a lot of people think it wanted to pull of being a Black Hawk Down with Aliens but chickened out on the blood and gritty realism.
One thing that put me off from the start was the prospect of this being in 3D, I hate 3D movies. Nothing breaks the immersion of a movie more than looking at your wrist watch or watching a movie in 3D. At least for me, I am aware of watching "a movie" the whole time just because of the silly effects and glasses.....
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One thing that put me off from the start was the prospect of this being in 3D, I hate 3D movies. Nothing breaks the immersion of a movie more than looking at your wrist watch or watching a movie in 3D. At least for me, I am aware of watching "a movie" the whole time just because of the silly effects and glasses.....
Agreed. I hate 3-D movies that have shots or scenes in it for no other reason than to say "Oooooh, look, it's 3D" It's not a recent thing either. I remember Friday the 13th 3D when it came out, it had a from the ground shot of a yo-yo going up and down, coming right at you. Pointless waste of film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7JQBPYB2gs&feature=player_embedded
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I find those effects really cheesy, but I also find the "atmospheric 3D" like in the new Tron movie not really adding anything at all to the movie experience. Giving the image a bit of depth in exchange of constantly being reminded that you watch a movie is a bad trade. But the tickets are more expensive, and pirating gets harder so that alone makes the studios exploit this resurrected trend before it dies out once again.
Maybe I'll change my mind when the technology has advanced far enough to refine the 3D experience and make it possible to watch without those glasses. I have vague ideas of what Guillermo Del Toro would want to do with the technology, making the vast empty spaces feel even more expansive - and probably using the 3D for some "losing your sanity" effect when the explorers encounter the bad stuff. But I don't think any such gimmick is necessary to tell a chilling Lovecraft story.
There is a half-crappy Lovecraft movie loosely based on A Shadow over Innsmouth called “Dagon”. The main character is silly / very similar to Ash from the Evil Dead movies and the story is really weak and gets worse as the movie progresses – but the atmosphere at times is “perfect Lovecraft”, especially the scenes at the hotel and the main character being chased by the inbred locals’ shines.
Would be cool if Del Toro started out with a “smaller” and cheaper adaptation such as the Dunwich Horror or A Shadow over Innsmouth – even Whisperer in the Dark would have been awesome, before going for that epic tale of Mountains. Building an audience and increasing the budget over each movie. Maybe then the studious would give him the money he needed - reading the article money seemed to be the biggest issue.
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He's not giving up:
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/06/27/guillermo-del-toro-on-mountains-of-madness-im-not-giving-up/
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I would love to see HPL writ large on the silver screen, sans Cruise. His performance in War of the Worlds was the final straw for me. I can't watch him any more, in anything. I think Gary Oldman would be an ideal casting choice for a main character. The R-rating conundrum may continue to doom this movie, but the real problem is that it will have to have a hppy ending for H-Wood to greenlight it. The reason other "comic-pulp" movies do so well is that they all end happily and give theater patrons heroes to replace those that have been edited out of our histories and myths.
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Regardless of anything, if it is ever released I will see it. I just know it could of (in assured hindsight) been better- especially given the prestigious make up of the production sans Cruise.
Yes, Anatoli- "Dagon" captures it all purrfectly. Just as a heads up there was a 2007 release based also on "... Innsmouth" entitled simply "Cthulhu." I have read mixed reviews ranging from "shitty plot but visually stunning" to something like "great plot and visually stunning." Whether its a hit or a miss its suppose to be as far as cinematography goes, beautiful. I have not seen it, can't seem to find it anywhere for rental or stream, and have not really been too tempted to buy it- so I can't really recommend it one way or another, but let me know if you ever watch it though- might make a good blog post?
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Tom Cruise aint a good actor IMO, I'd love to see if it gets the visuals right - it could do, but I want a better lead-actor than that. It's the sort of film that has to be done -right-. It both excites and worries me in equal measure.
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With production value like this it could really do the story justice- but all in all I find that the Lovecraft mythos is better served by its (literal) cult following, and not the mainstream. Meh.
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Which is, again, an excellent reason to check out 'The Whisperer in Darkness' by the HPLHS.
Site revamp: http://www.cthulhulives.org/Whisperer/index.html
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Seeing it this fall at the HPL Film Festival is L.A. :D
super excited...
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Yeah Gary Oldman would have been perfect for the main lead in Mountains. As things look now I'm not holding my breath for the movie becoming reality anytime soon. The only positive thing in this delay misery is that the 3D crapfest will probably be grossly out of fashion by then and G.D.T. will drop that idea. The long delay would possibly open up for a new actor for the lead.