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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Malamute on July 28, 2011, 12:25:28 PM
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Matthew has come up trumps again and completed the latest batch of figures for the Texas War of Independence (following his recent marriage, Belated congratulations Matt!). These will be off to the mould makers when I return from my holiday in ten days.
First up a group of Mexican sentries,from left to right:
Soldado Mendoza stands proudly to attention whilst Soldado Pedro smokes a crafty Cigarillo and Soldada Ortega sneaks a sip of some Mescal from his flask meanwhile Soldado Gomez wipes something unpleasant from his shoe....
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_12_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_12_1.jpg)
Mexican casualties, no doubt caused by David Crockett's expert marksmanship...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_12_2.jpg)
The New Orleans Greys. Volunteers from New Orleans who fought bravely during the seige of San Antonio De Bejar in December 1836, most of them died defending the Alamo in March 1836.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_13_3.jpg)
Corporal "Eagle Eyes" De La Pena
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_13_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_47_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/86_28_07_11_1_10_48_1.jpg)
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Wow! :o :o :o
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Mexican casualties, no doubt caused by David Crockett's expert marksmanship...
Not in the last game we played... ;)
Some really great, characterful sculpts there. Well done Nick and, of course, Matt.
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Oh, I DO like those; not that I'm biased of course.... ;)
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These are just brilliant. So much character.
The New Orleans Greys are going straight on my 'to buy' list... :)
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Not in the last game we played... ;)
lol
They look wonderful :-* 8)
cheers
James
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Brilliant!
These will be off to the mould makers when I return from my holiday in ten days.
Aha! I shall help myself to your wine cellar while you are away.
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Brilliant!
Aha! I shall help myself to your wine cellar while you are away.
And probably go through my underwear drawyer as well ;) lol
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These are just brilliant. So much character.
The New Orleans Greys are going straight on my 'to buy' list... :)
What he said!
Superb sculpts, loads of character.
Absolutely love 'em!
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And probably go through my underwear drawyer as well ;) lol
Anything for a giggle. lol
You are tempting me with these greens! I'm going to give in soon.
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Looks great! Any chance of ever getting some classic cowboys out of you?
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Man, that's great stuff. I swear, when I look at your Boot Hill poses I think "That's what's missing from Hinterland!"
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So awesome. Absolutely love them! One of the best ranges around.
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Very characterful indeed. Now if I just had a little more spare cash :'(
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Character by the bucket load. Absolutely marvellous stuff.
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Absolutely great. Must resist though............................last thing I need is another theatre to collect........
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Oh, I DO like those; not that I'm biased of course.... ;)
Have you written any rules for them?
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Thumbs up, Nick! The subject is not my cup of tea at all but these New Orlean Volunteers are just smashing. Well done.
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Have you written any rules for them?
I've been asked before, but I've only got Zorro and some Presidials...
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As has already been stated, some lovely posses. :-* :-* :-*
Your range is really coming together, long may it contiue.
One of these days I may actually get round to buying some to go with the Zoro I have. :D
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Simply stunning.
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Best yet! Hard to pick favourites, but the swarthy Mexicans probably take it just.
I'll be getting these as soon as they are available Sir.
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Have you written any rules for them?
Speaking of rules, what kind of mods do you use to Sharp Practice? Or is there a Lardies special with a mod that I don't know about? I'm guessing the Mexican War supp is too far afield to work for the Texian Rev?
Steve
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Speaking of rules, what kind of mods do you use to Sharp Practice? Or is there a Lardies special with a mod that I don't know about? I'm guessing the Mexican War supp is too far afield to work for the Texian Rev?
Steve
We have used the rules with very few mods. Unfortunately though I cannot get my head around Sharp Practice. We have played it three times and I find it very frustrating and extremely confusing.
Still looking for a compromise, we have used Brother Against Brother and they are good for straight up battles with a hundred or so figures per side. Thinking about revisiting LOTOW again for my next game where characters are more important.
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Looks great! Any chance of ever getting some classic cowboys out of you?
In the fullness of time I will do some, probably a limited number, perhaps seven of them ;)
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In the fullness of time I will do some, probably a limited number, perhaps seven of them ;)
Well put me down as sold :)!
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Did I say "peachy"? :)
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Well put me down as sold :)!
I'll go for that lead deal friend ;)
Superb stuff, every Boot Hill release tops the last :-*
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We have used the rules with very few mods. Unfortunately though I cannot get my head around Sharp Practice. We have played it three times and I find it very frustrating and extremely confusing.
My thoughts exactly. Eight rounds of standing in the open while enemy units pour fire into you and gradually decimate you and you can't run for cover cos your frackin' activation card hasn't come up in eight turns?! Stupid or what?
Wargames need to be less dependent on chance and more on skill IMHO...
Clearly we need a Tex-Mex supplement for Triumph and Tragedy... I can't imagine why Bjorn and Chris haven't written one already... ;)
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My thoughts exactly. Eight rounds of standing in the open while enemy units pour fire into you and gradually decimate you and you can't run for cover cos your frackin' activation card hasn't come up in eight turns?! Stupid or what?
lol lol
Sorry to laugh again, but it was rather daft :D
We'll just have to try something else next time
:)
cheers
James
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Lovely stuff :-*
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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We have given up on Sharpe Practice for our Rev games and are now trying Blackpowder. The first couple of games have went well although we still have a lot to pick up. But we have found them fun.
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Yes cowboys please!
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Great looking stuff!
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Malamute you had mentioned before that you plan to do Mexican civilians. Any idea when those might appear?
Darkoath
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Noooo, I can resist Texians but more Mexican Civilians???
My wallet is tight right now (getting daughter established until her first monthly paycheck come in October.)
Gracias,
Glenn
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We have given up on Sharpe Practice for our Rev games and are now trying Blackpowder. The first couple of games have went well although we still have a lot to pick up. But we have found them fun.
Why? What don't you like about Sharpe Practice?
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Malamute you had mentioned before that you plan to do Mexican civilians. Any idea when those might appear?
Darkoath
Definitely doing civilians, a couple of packs are planned. But they will be much later this year or early next year as I have lots of Texian packs to do first.
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Civilians, eh? Please say that some of them will look like these guys:
(http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0018/CF/B7/CFB7CD6AC3C39DB92C63DA_Large.jpg)
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(ok, not really the mexicans you may have in mind, but come on... ;D )
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Civilians, eh? Please say that some of them will look like these guys:
(http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0018/CF/B7/CFB7CD6AC3C39DB92C63DA_Large.jpg)
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(ok, not really the mexicans you may have in mind, but come on... ;D )
Well, one pack of these would get my $$. The cross-over for my niche gaming (Zorro, 1680's Spanish, California/Missions era,) would be mandatory. I would so bend time and historicity for such figures.
Gracias,
Glenn
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I love the fact that every figure in the range is a great little character in themself. Makes you feel for each and every Mexican that falls under Texian fire.(They've all got mothers.) lol
These are fantastic.
And count me in for cowboys.
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Lovely Nick, these minaitures will grace anyones collection, well done to all.
Cheers,
Helen
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Civilians, eh? Please say that some of them will look like these guys:
(http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0018/CF/B7/CFB7CD6AC3C39DB92C63DA_Large.jpg)
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(ok, not really the mexicans you may have in mind, but come on... ;D )
Yep, exactly line these Dons. :)
Most of my planned male civilians will be wearing riding jackets, serapes etc. Not White peasant pyjamas which would be inappropriate for town folk in California or Texas.
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Yep, exactly line these Dons. :)
Most of my planned male civilians will be wearing riding jackets, serapes etc. Not White peasant pyjamas which would be inappropriate for town folk in California or Texas.
Guess I better start saving now...
Gracias,
Glenn
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very nice ;D
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Just a quick heads up to say the new castings are in the web shop and available now.
www.boothillminiatures.co.uk
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Nice looking figures. How do "Boot Hill" match up with Artizan? For example, would the New Orleans Greys mix together in a single unit?
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They are scaled to fit alongside Artizan. If you look through some of my battle reports you will see the figures mixed together. They are similar height and proportions so blend well together.
www.boothillminiatures.co.uk
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Just a quick heads up to say the new castings are in the web shop and available now.
Www.boothillminiatures.couk
That explains everything! ;)
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They are scaled to fit alongside Artizan...They are similar height and proportions so blend well together.
www.boothillminiatures.co.uk
But the similarity ends there in my humble opinion, Boot Hill figures being by far the better figures in every other respect. ;)
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Loveliness!
As they are scaled to artizan, does this mean they will dwarf my old foundry old west? Please so no!
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Loveliness!
As they are scaled to artizan, does this mean they will dwarf my old foundry old west? Please so no!
Yep, afraid so. I have rebased my Original Foundry Mexican Peons with a spacer to fit alongside my Boot Hill figures.
Unfortunately most things dwarf the original Foundry Old West figures (The Copplestone ones) Nowadays. Although his plains indians and US Cavalry were slightly larger and closer to Artizan/Boot Hill size.
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Yep, afraid so. I have rebased my Original Foundry Mexican Peons with a spacer to fit alongside my Boot Hill figures.
Unfortunately most things dwarf the original Foundry Old West figures (The Copplestone ones) Nowadays. Although his plains indians and US Cavalry were slightly larger and closer to Artizan/Boot Hill size.
Have you got some shots of them together? Perhaps I need to sell off the 25mm and move to 28mm?
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You are in luck. You can see some of my Foundry Peons (before being rebased with a spacer) paying their taxes to the Boot Hill Miniatures Presidiales in this game report.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13969.0
If you really bothered by the height difference slip a spacer between the base of the miniature and your chosen base (whether it be a washer or a slotta etc.) Lifting the figure a couple of mm can make a load of difference to the eye and does compensate.
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You are in luck. You can see some of my Foundry Peons (before being rebased with a spacer) paying their taxes to the Boot Hill Miniatures Presidiales in this game report.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13969.0
If you really bothered by the height difference slip a spacer between the base of the miniature and your chosen base (whether it be a washer or a slotta etc.) Lifting the figure a couple of mm can make a load of difference to the eye and does compensate.
Crap at rebasing, so I might see how adding another washer works, though I'm guessing UGLY!
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Crap at rebasing, so I might see how adding another washer works, though I'm guessing UGLY!
Dont add two washers. Just cut a small piece of cardboard or plasticard depending on the thickness required and slip it between the figure and the washer. Assuming you texture the figures base with filler or sand/grit to blend it with the washer you will also cover the spacer in between and it will be hidden. The figure will just stand higher on the base. It works fine. :)
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Dont add two washers. Just cut a small piece of cardboard or plasticard depending on the thickness required and slip it between the figure and the washer. Assuming you texture the figures base with filler or sand/grit to blend it with the washer you will also cover the spacer in between and it will be hidden. The figure will just stand higher on the base. It works fine. :)
Yeah, but I am liable to destroy my paint job! Big clumsy hands lol
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Yeah, but I am liable to destroy my paint job! Big clumsy hands lol
lol
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They are scaled to fit alongside Artizan. If you look through some of my battle reports you will see the figures mixed together. They are similar height and proportions so blend well together.
www.boothillminiatures.co.uk
Thanks. :)
Some of the rest of this thread is turning into "I can't use short people" ;) lol
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Thanks. :)
Some of the rest of this thread is turning into "I can't use short people" ;) lol
Yeah sorry, but I'm trying to justify buying them! I know when I take the bus that everyone is different but I can't quite feel it in 28mm - crazy really! It's a bit like Star Wars Storm Troopers!
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Yet another period i wish I'd done exclusively, instead of the generic west........... :'(
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Yet another period i wish I'd done exclusively, instead of the generic west........... :'(
You're doing another period? Surely not... lol
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This looks a nice range, Dave, but I'm also looking at Galloping Major's FIW................. Do I need another range? ???
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This looks a nice range, Dave, but I'm also looking at Galloping Major's FIW................. Do I need another range? ???
It is a good range, and growing all the time steadily.
Galloping Major ~ don't like them much, prefer Redoubt.
Do you need another range? Do you need a hole in the head?
David
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This looks a nice range, Dave, but I'm also looking at Galloping Major's FIW................. Do I need another range? ???
Of course you do :D
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Of course you do :D
la, la, la - can't hear you
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@ Joroas - The boothill stuff is lovely, plus if you feel the need to justify with regards to oponents, I've got a good sized collection of 1830's/40's western stuff...
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top notch figures and a great subject.................!!! and a stunning range....
some Mexicans with ladders and sleepers would be the business Nick!!
regards
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
www.gringo40s.blogspot.com
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some Mexicans with ladders and sleepers would be the business Nick!!
Theya re on the to do list ;)
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Now I've actually got to fondle your NOGS I'm even more impressed ;)
Wonderful models.
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My real issue,Xander, is that I feel obliged to buy both sides, so something small ends up big.............. :D
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Don't worry John - I'm the same! Mexicans, Texians, Generic Plains indians, Comanche, Apache, various mountain men groups... !!!!!
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.....and I also feel obliged to buy the whole range............. :( :o
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.....and I also feel obliged to buy the whole range............. :( :o
:-* I know, I know... >:( Silly bills... lol
"fortunately" I have space and money limitations so i am currently trying to get the 1680-1760's (++/--) forces done first, followed by some 1800-1820's figures (depending on your Zorro Chronology http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Zorro.htm ) and then we will consider the 1821 - 1850 era (beyond what I already have for Old West in Northern Mexico/New Mexico. Maybe I will get to Spanish in AWI someday... before I die of old age.
Gracias,
Glenn
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.....and I also feel obliged to buy the whole range............. :( :o
One of everything.....not a problem, I have them all in stock :D lol
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.....and I also feel obliged to buy the whole range.............
One of everything.....not a problem, I have them all in stock
Get thee behind me, Malamute.......... ;D
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Get thee behind me, Malamute.......... ;D
They don't call me the Prince of Darkness for nothing you know. ;)
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Well, it is an anagram of Santa! :D
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Not that I'm really looking at this, but..... :o
how do Perrys Carlist civilians and Hovels buildings scale up? ::)
Sharp Practice? ???
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Not that I'm really looking at this, but..... :o
how do Perrys Carlist civilians and Hovels buildings scale up? ::)
Sharp Practice? ???
Yep I have used some of the Perry Carlist civilians and they are spot on size wise. If you look at the game link 3rd photo below you will see the Perry Senora wearing the black mantilla standing next to my Boot Hill governor figure. She is perfect.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13969.0
Not sure which Hovels buildings you are referring to?
I am planning lots of civilians next year once I finish the Texian army. ;)
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On a serious note there is much more to the Texas War of Independence than just the Alamo. Largely the war is overshadowed by the events at the Alamo and its famous defenders.
You have lots of smaller skirmishes between groups of mounted Texians and Mexican cavalry, attacks on supply trains (the grass fight) furious street fighting during the seige of San Antonio in 1835, the one set piece battle at San Jacinto has relatively small number of troops (only three pieces of artillery) and the Texian defeat at Goliad where the Texians formed a large square and fought of cavalry attacks before surrendering.
The larger than life personalities at the Alamo offer great character driven scenarios for various skirmishes that occured during the 13 day seige rather than the foregone conclusion of the actual assault.
You would not need vast numbers of figures to game many of the engagements listed above. The Mexicn army during the war was divided at any one time and each column comprised mainly infantry, perhaps one cavalry regiment and a handful of artillery pieces. The same goes for the Texians.
The diversity between a professional army dressed and equipped along Napoleonic lines Vs a rag tag bunch of militia and volunteer units dressed anywhere from Dickens fashions to buckskins and Mexican Vaquero dress is intriguing to say the least!
Rules wise I have used Sharp Practice and if I could actually get my head around them they would I am sure work well. I find a number of the rules mechanics very confusing.We have also played Brother Against Brother many times and they give a good game, albeit they lack any period flavour.
Legends of the Old West are fun if you wish to use characters such as Davy Crockett. James Bowie etc. I haven't yet used their massed battles supplement, but will be giving that a bash in the next couple of weeks so will see how that plays out.
Hopefully the above gives you some idea of what you can expect. If you want any advice for the best reading material drop me a PM, I have a very good library at home on the subject. As you can tell I am very passionate about this period and I truly believe its a very underestimated and interesting period of history to game.
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Thanks for that info. whew.
The hovels stuff is here:
http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/Spanish25mm.html
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Yeh, there is a part in the first lonesome dove (Deadman's Walk) that inspires small scale skirmish - With Texas Rangers, Mexicans, Comanche (Buffalo Hump makes a great character), a dogdy snakeskin oil sales man, a crazy land pirate with parrot and even a big arse bear, plus a Leprosy ridden English Aristocrate! You could even Deadlands things up a bit for the desert walk with rattler attacks, that's your thing!
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Those Hovels Spanish buildings are on the small side if I recall as they have been around for a long time, more like true 25mm stuff.
A friend of mine had some when he was having a Sharp style Peninsular craze about ten years ago and they came up small then as he was using Front Rank figures. :?
If you can get hold of them the Snapdagon resin Adobe buildings are perfectly sized for todays larger 28s. Monolith Designs has a decent adobe range which will be fine also. Or scratchbuild them, thats what I did. ;)
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Monolith look good, and I have a load of PMC ones that will do for a while. Are you at Colours this weekend?
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Are you at Colours this weekend?
I'll be there on sunday, not trading, just shopping :D
I will gladly bring some of the figures along if you want to see them in the lead before buying (with no obligation).
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Monolith look good, and I have a load of PMC ones that will do for a while. Are you at Colours this weekend?
Hi, have you got some ics?
(God I wish I couls go to Colours, I haven't been for about 10 years... it's the one in Reading, right?)
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Colours is Newbury, Warfare is Reading.
PMC site:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/pmc.games/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
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Colours is Newbury, Warfare is Reading.
PMC site:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/pmc.games/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
Opps, never been to colours, just Salute In Ken, Selwig and Warfare
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Opps, thanks for the link. Are you talking about the middel east buildings?
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.....and I also feel obliged to buy the whole range............. :( :o
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder! You need treatment. Seek help at once. Br Bykleigh has the cure...You KNOW you want it. lol
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Well, Br Bickleigh, the last time I came to you for help I ended up buying two Indian Mutiny armies. Trevor Dixon said to thank you for that.
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Yes, Binman, the Middlle East ones, but the Monolith ones look the part.
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They just keep getting better, look forward to seeing more of the Texian types when they show. Will we be etting that legendary Tennesean Davey Cluncket one day i wonder?
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Well, Br Bickleigh, the last time I came to you for help I ended up buying two Indian Mutiny armies. Trevor Dixon said to thank you for that.
As I said, You know you want it....you're a wargamer after all, it goes with the territory, like the lead mountain, or shed in your case! lol
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Case proven, your honour, guilty as charged. 8)
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JR has some nice buildings, too:
http://www.magistermilitum.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=146&strPageHistory=cat
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JR has some nice buildings, too:
http://www.magistermilitum.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=146&strPageHistory=cat
Yeah they do some nice stuff, nice chap selling them too, most helpfull. Is Monolith still going and anyone got a working link?
No news on Clucnket Nick? El Nico needs a compadre!
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My computer keeps kicking Monolith out as having an issue with a malicious cookie.
Here is the site:
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/
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Does anyone know how these would sit next to 1st Corps range, scale-wise?
I have some 1st Corps and am finding Malamute's New Orleans Greys exceedingly tempting!
I don't have any of the 1st Corps figures, but I would expect them to come up slightly shorter being older castings, they are probably not the large 28s we have today.
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I don't have any of the 1st Corps figures, but I would expect them to come up slightly shorter being older castings, they are probably not the large 28s we have today.
Any idea why there was a shift from 25mm, to 28 to "large 28". Is it a case of an aging population...?
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Actually the 1st corps Mex/Am war range is of a pretty good size.The cavalry I had were at least lg 28s about the same size as my Front Rank Napoleonics.The infantry,if I remember right ,were more like true 28s but still not that small.I sold them at a Historicon this summer.I didn't like the sculpting style.
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Taking the plunge right now!
EDIT: Done!
Received with thanks :)
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Mason
If it turns out there is just a slight difference use the cardstock under the figures base idea.I was always a bit skeptical but I used it for the first time this morning and,when there is only a small height variance, it actually works quite well.
I used to be a bit of a size/scale nazi but trying to do VSF with so many different manufacturers has made me become much more lenient.I now happily mix Front Rank,Perry,Foundry,Artizan ,Mutineer ,Great War and what ever else I need.
Size differences in a comparison pic are very different from how they look on the tabletop,especially from 2 feet away ;)
Pete
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Just received my Greys and shot up mexicans. These are the best yet, this range is the best on the market.
Craig { THE CID } :)
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Cheers Craig, thanks for the kind words, I am glad you like 'Em :)
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Mason
If it turns out there is just a slight difference use the cardstock under the figures base idea.I was always a bit skeptical but I used it for the first time this morning and,when there is only a small height variance, it actually works quite well.
I used to be a bit of a size/scale nazi but trying to do VSF with so many different manufacturers has made me become much more lenient.I now happily mix Front Rank,Perry,Foundry,Artizan ,Mutineer ,Great War and what ever else I need.
Size differences in a comparison pic are very different from how they look on the tabletop,especially from 2 feet away ;)
Pete
Fitterpete; Thanks, mate, it should be fine as I compared the Boot Hill to the 1st Corps that I have, and the difference will not be a serious problem.
Yes, the BH are bigger being modern, but not in any problematic way. They are a little chunkier but will work just fine as I will be using them as unit leaders and character models, so will be quite fitting in a cinematic kind of way.
A note on the Boot Hill miniatures, (and sorry for the delay in response); They are great sculpts, full of character, and very clean castings.
Also arrived on my doormat within 48hrs of placing the order.
Fantastic!
Thanks, Malamute!