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Title: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 15 October 2012, 05:19:54 PM
First of all a big sorry for those, who are waiting for a Russo-Japanese War update!

The RJW will stay our main line (with hopefully many more miniatures to come) but it just beat another subject by a heartbeat when I had to decide, which range I wanted to get done over a year ago. A very close second had been the Freikorps Werdenfels.

But as we say in German 'aufgeschoben ist nicht aufgehoben' (i.e. 'postponed is not abandoned'). They had to wait a little bit before they could make their debut but Paul has been working on them over the last months next to the Russians and Japanese and finally they are here.

The Freikorps Werdenfels

In short (I hope to post some more details over the coming days), these guys were part of the federal troops sent to Munich to fight against the Munich Soviet or Concil Republic in May 1919.

All miniatures sculpted by Paul Hicks with the notable exceptions of the Dachshund by eBob and the MG08, which is used under license from Musketeer Miniatures. All these miniatures have been painted by Andrew Taylor, as Simon is very busy (not least with some Russo-Japanese-War miniatures). This first release features the following five sets:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bYVecfcG2Qk/UHwPqvX1gjI/AAAAAAAAAUc/Jcy3poQSzqs/s1600/Werdenfels_01+Kopie.jpg)
FW-01 Command
(containing a medic, an officer with a dachshund, a Stormtrooper/Veteran and a NCO )

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1TJ_HGjOe0U/UHwPsK31HWI/AAAAAAAAAUg/a5QKgDMSpWM/s1600/Werdenfels_02+Kopie.jpg)
FW-02 Riflemen advancing
(containing four different riflemen)
 
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ix57mjRiCCE/UHwPtMePgJI/AAAAAAAAAUs/NCwbIiQUiFM/s1600/Werdenfels_03+Kopie.jpg)
FW-03 Riflemen firing
(containing four different riflemen)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZPc_HReKdSU/UHwPubN-g1I/AAAAAAAAAUw/tnkfdNU1oWU/s1600/Werdenfels_04+Kopie.jpg)
FW-04 HMG team
(containing a MG08 and a crew of three)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AuXdDSf4TgU/UHwPvjsmUII/AAAAAAAAAU4/hrE40144DLA/s1600/Werdenfels_05+Kopie+.jpg)
FW-05 Specialists
(containing a Bugler, a Standard-bearer and a two-men MG08/15 team)

All miniatures are supplied unpainted and some require some modelling work!

All the above shown sets are priced € 7.50 each and are eligible as part of a five-set-deal for € 35.- (you can also get sets from different ranges as part of the very same deal, i.e. you can mix and match Japanese, Russian and Werdenfels sets in one five-set-deal, if you like).

We also have a special 'Werdenfels'-deal containing one each of the five sets FW-01 to FW-05 and a sheet of paper flags (shown below) from Flags of War for € 36.-.

The 'Freikorps Werdengels' range also marks the start of the cooperation with Flags of War, which will also see flags for the Russo-Japanese War (starting with the Japanese).

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V8uzxmV_HJA/UHwTUh_nd4I/AAAAAAAAAVY/Af1V3lXrTmk/s320/INT01+Freikorps+Werdenfels+%28German+Revolution%29.jpg)

The 'Freikorps Werdenfels' flag sheet contains one generic Bavarian flag (that can be seen used on the painted example in the above picture of set FW-05) and a specific one for the Freikorps based on contemporary photos.
The sheet is available as part of the 'Werdenfels'-deal are on its own, in which case it is prices € 2.50 per sheet.

(All prices exclude postage.)

Link: http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/ (http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/)

An interesting fact for the VBCW-fans, that Iain of Flags of War made me aware of, is that Rupprecht, Crown Prince of Bavaria was the heir to the Jacobite succession from 1919 until his death in 1955... so maybe after loosing his father's Bavarian throne, he might pursue the claimes he had inherited from his mother...
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: DoctorPete on 15 October 2012, 05:30:32 PM
Yes!  These are on the list right after I order the Russians and new Japanese standards/buglers.  Wonderful stuff!  :-*
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Lord of Jerwood on 15 October 2012, 06:07:36 PM
theses look awesome  :)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Clearco on 15 October 2012, 06:16:32 PM
They are cool! It surprise me to see figthing troops in Bayerischen Tracht  :o
Are you going to release spartacists aswell?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Svennn on 15 October 2012, 06:36:26 PM
Very nice miniatures, will probably be pulled beyond temptation just to paint them at some point
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 15 October 2012, 06:39:04 PM
WOW! Lots of Freikorps goodness right here.  lol
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Mancha on 15 October 2012, 07:16:56 PM
These are brilliant!  And great-paintjobs kudos to Andrew.  And as soon as I saw those guns I thought "Now those look familiar."   :)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Mainly28s on 15 October 2012, 08:09:10 PM
Aaaaaaaarhg! Now there are even more figures I want! Absolutely smashing job on those!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: traveller on 15 October 2012, 09:40:12 PM
Excellent!

I applaud the effort of developing miniatures outside the mainstream lines!

Order on its way!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 October 2012, 09:59:09 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Franz_Josef on 15 October 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Congratulations for filling a niche in a fascinating period.  Most other Freikorps can be made from WW I figures, but the Werdenfels are unique.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Arlequín on 16 October 2012, 12:06:45 AM
Now there's something you don't see every day... what a fantastic set of miniatures!  :)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Traveler Man on 16 October 2012, 12:13:31 AM
Marvelous work, sir!  :-*
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 16 October 2012, 07:45:26 AM
Oh bloody marvellous sir!!!  These are superb.  Order on the way.  Now to dream up a scenario involving a disorientated Bavarian stag party in central Asia..........wooohaha! 
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Captain Blood on 16 October 2012, 08:00:36 AM
How brilliant  :-*
I have no possible use for them, yet once again, I am drawn like a moth to the flame... Damn you Hicks!  ;)

Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 16 October 2012, 09:19:58 AM
Ok. now which one is Baby Schimmerlos?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Patrick R on 16 October 2012, 09:30:27 AM
Sometimes I feel like a monk being hit by a mob of nubile nymphomaniac strippers.  I made a vow not to get into any new periods dammit !!! Stop tempting us ! My desk is worn from banging my head on it !
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Phil Robinson on 16 October 2012, 09:48:46 AM
How dare you put such wonderful temptation our way, you are a very naughty boy :D
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: flags_of_war on 16 October 2012, 11:13:23 AM
I can't wait to get some off you mate. They will be my Bavarian Jacobite laying claim to their distant throne :D
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: axabrax on 16 October 2012, 06:52:39 PM
Wow!  Actually much more interested in this personally than RJW. What are your plans moving forward for the range?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Agis on 16 October 2012, 07:17:43 PM
God dammit! These are too much fun to be ignored!  >:( >:D
Ordered my set asap!!!  8)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: mortimer on 16 October 2012, 07:57:45 PM
Amazing!!  :o :o

Congratulations for this new range!!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 16 October 2012, 08:07:37 PM
Ach Himmelherrgottsakra!

Just sold off my existing Freikorps, and here you go with such wonderful figures that make me re-start it all over again. Good thing I did not sell my truck and Hedi.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: FramFramson on 16 October 2012, 09:30:44 PM
So lovely and so much character!  :-*
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 16 October 2012, 09:37:44 PM
Thank you very much for all the nice comments!!!  :-*

They are cool! It surprise me to see figthing troops in Bayerischen Tracht  :o
Are you going to release spartacists aswell?

Wow!  Actually much more interested in this personally than RJW. What are your plans moving forward for the range?

Basically the plan is to round out the Werdenfelser first without neglecting the Russo-Japanese War. Already set is an 'assault' set (two guys with SMGs and a flamethrower team, a completely fictional set as the Werdenfelser weren't equipped with these weapons) and about four sets (depending on the actual make-up) of Bavarian civilians (some of which could also be used as unarmed Freikorps members resp. will come with separate weapons/equipment to put on their bases, etc. to creat a in-camp-scene).

I'd love to get some opponents for them done, once the aforementioned is realized. (Maybe also some other distinctive federal troops, that cannot represented by the available WW1 miniatures.)
But I'm not completely sure (at least not yet), if resp. in what way that would be a feasible project as there are already a couple of miniatures/ranges available, which could be pressed into service or are actually dedicated to this conflict(s).  :?

Any input and thoughts on this would be very welcome!

Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: traveller on 16 October 2012, 10:33:36 PM
One thing that is really missing is German police for the 1920-1930s. It would also be nice to have some of the personalities like the young Mr H and his followers
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Franz_Josef on 16 October 2012, 11:34:56 PM
I certainly take your point re the lack of submachine guns for the Werdenfels, but I have to wonder whether they would have had any machine guns either!  I liked how the command set has the one NCO in his old feldgrau.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Phil Robinson on 16 October 2012, 11:50:14 PM

I'd love to get some opponents for them done, once the aforementioned is realized. (Maybe also some other distinctive federal troops, that cannot represented by the available WW1 miniatures.)
But I'm not completely sure (at least not yet), if resp. in what way that would be a feasible project as there are already a couple of miniatures/ranges available, which could be pressed into service or are actually dedicated to this conflict(s).  :?

Any input and thoughts on this would be very welcome!



True but with all due respect to them, Paul's would be nicer :)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 17 October 2012, 09:21:29 AM
I certainly take your point re the lack of submachine guns for the Werdenfels, but I have to wonder whether they would have had any machine guns either!  I liked how the command set has the one NCO in his old feldgrau.

Hi Franz_Josef,

There are quite some photos of the Werdenfelser with the MG08, some staged 'action'-shots, some group pics in their quarters and also some showing Freikorps members maintaining/cleaning the guns.

I've found the book "Revolutionszeit 1918/19 im Bezirk Garmisch" by Josef Ostler the best source on details of the Freikorps Werdenfels. (Unfortunately it's OOP and don't think that it has ever been translated to English or any other language.)

Ostler quotes a first hand account stating that the Werdenfelser were equipted with a total of ten MGs besides their rifles. Unfortunately it is not specified, if there are also some MG08/15 among those MGs.
But the book also contains the account of a Freikorps member describing the Werdenfelser in action and how a hard-pressed rifle section get reliefed by a very mobile operating MG, so the MG08/15 is an educated guess.

Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: joroas on 17 October 2012, 09:52:43 AM
Lovely figures and, yes, the German police have been requested by a number of LAFfers in the past, they would be good, too.  :D
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 17 October 2012, 11:56:13 AM
Add one more vote for German armed police. Oh and an Anita Berber character figure.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 17 October 2012, 12:16:39 PM
Agreed! I have always wanted to do the post-war Weimar Republic. Polizei, Freikorps, and the forces of the left like the Spartakusbund, Bavarian Soviet, and the Ruhr Reds.  :D
But i will of course Patiences is is a vuture. I will wait and glance over my Copy of Osprey Freikorp.
hmmmmm are there any good books on the German Civil war in English?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 17 October 2012, 12:19:43 PM
These are bloody fantatastic! Paul has done a great job on these. It's a pity that he's so used by the community, because I really need him for a couple of miniatures ;)
I think the range is spot on, and while I'm not an interwarist, I do think that these are the best freikorps around. And It's nice to see the whole interwar segment getting filled with civilians and civlians with weapons rather than another wave of soldiers :)
So good job!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 17 October 2012, 09:57:24 PM
Add one more vote for German armed police. Oh and an Anita Berber character figure.

Actually Otto Dix is a great source of character inspiration for this period.  One of my favourite painters.  And yes, one more vote for German police!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Poctaman on 18 October 2012, 05:24:39 AM
These are fantastic!

And add my vote for German police!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 18 October 2012, 07:24:20 AM
question, these guys really couldn't be used for reds of the same area right? Just had a thought of one group with white bands and garlands and another in red  lol
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 18 October 2012, 07:26:00 AM
Actually Otto Dix is a great source of character inspiration for this period.  One of my favourite painters.  And yes, one more vote for German police!

As are Grosz and Christian Schad, along with Felixmüller etc etc. Quite possibly my favourite era and genres of 'modern' art.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: CorvetteK225 on 18 October 2012, 01:04:48 PM
Quite happily ordered mine yesterday!   :-*

My hopes for expansion in order.
1. Police
2. Civilains

I am sure that any fan of the interwar revolutions and border disputes would want a complete range from Spartacists, to Volksmarine, to Baltic enemies, and all Freikorps inbetween. Let me just say that "if you build it, my Paypal will come"!  lol
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 18 October 2012, 01:32:42 PM
Quite happily ordered mine yesterday!   :-*

My hopes for expansion in order.
1. Police
2. Civilains

I am sure that any fan of the interwar revolutions and border disputes would want a complete range from Spartacists, to Volksmarine, to Baltic enemies, and all Freikorps inbetween. Let me just say that "if you build it, my Paypal will come"!  lol
Agreed with all of this
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: axabrax on 18 October 2012, 04:24:08 PM
Second the Police, Civilians, and especially the "personality" packs provided Paul is still doing the sculpting as he is so good at likeness. Obviously the utility of the range will be somewhat limited if you don't do opponents for these guys, but I understand financial constraints.

Which figure ranges would scale best with yours for doing the Freikorps units in "Stormtrooper" gear--as I am presuming these wouldn't be on your list. Maybe Brigade Games?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: huevans on 18 October 2012, 04:52:34 PM
Paul also did the Musketeer VBCW and ICW ranges which are usable. As is the Empress SCW range. There are anomalies. For instance, the Musketeer stuff strongly features Lee Enfields and Lewis guns and these would not be common in 1919 Germany. Nor would 1930's Italian and Soviet firearms.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Helen on 18 October 2012, 10:48:41 PM
Very nice miniatures.

Like any new period it is always lovely to see two factions for gaming.

I like the clothing attire and as mentioned civilians will greatly enhance the setting.

I noticed this thread.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13844.0

Well done everyone involved.

Helen

Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: The Breaker on 20 October 2012, 03:58:02 AM
I am interested in the history of these fellows. Why were they not in uniform?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 20 October 2012, 06:27:23 AM
I am interested in the history of these fellows. Why were they not in uniform?

They were an irregular force, a 'citizen militia', if you like, raised to support ex-army 'regular' Freikorps units to suppress the socialist/communist/marxist/variousotherformsofleftwinggroupist popular uprising in Munich which had seized control over the town. I think they were recruited from Schützenvereine as well as older men who may have served their military term but did not see active service in the Great War. Their uniform pretty much consisted of the white/blue arm band.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 21 October 2012, 11:54:31 PM
Just to let ever one know, Maichus posted up two articles on his blog about the Freikorps Werdenfels.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 22 October 2012, 01:35:58 AM
Which figure ranges would scale best with yours for doing the Freikorps units in "Stormtrooper" gear--as I am presuming these wouldn't be on your list. Maybe Brigade Games?
"That's a bingo!"
Paul Hicks did some sculpting for Brigade Games' WWI range.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 22 October 2012, 01:46:53 AM
Cool, which fig's did he do? I notice a nice mix of models and ranges on the web site.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 22 October 2012, 02:16:02 AM
Cool, which fig's did he do? I notice a nice mix of models and ranges on the web site.
To be honest with you, I'm not sure.
I know he did the Austrians and Italians, but I don't know which he did for the Western Front.

There might actually be some figures of use in the Alpine Theatre range.
http://www.brigadegames.com/WWI--Italian-Front_c_208.html
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: traveller on 22 October 2012, 06:31:40 AM
There is a lot to choose from:
Brigade Germans by Mike Owen (Artizan)
Great War by Aly Morrison
Renegade
Old Glory (have some nice German Cavalry)
Copplestone made a pack of stormtrooper characters

I dont think though that Hicks made any Germans. Only Austrians, Italians, British and Russians
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Funghy-Fipps on 22 October 2012, 01:14:30 PM
It's about time somebody produced some decent miniatures for this important period and these are unreservedly lovely! Germany really was a political crucible after the end of the Great War and I find the era endlessly fascinating in a 'what if...' sense. I've also just been viewing this (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=47207.0) Interwar thread and it would be nice to see more Second Polish Rep. types as Freikorps opponents. Anyway they certainly have the right look and I am anxious to see more of this range.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc93/sicluceatlux/Wargaming/munich_329.jpg)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: area23 on 22 October 2012, 01:25:36 PM
I dont think though that Hicks made any Germans. Only Austrians, Italians, British and Russians
I think that's correct. He did do a germans-in-field-cap headset though.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: flags_of_war on 22 October 2012, 01:27:16 PM
Scheltrum do some Interwar but im not sure how they look or compare.

http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/se28.html
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Grimm on 22 October 2012, 03:54:34 PM
wow !! :o very very nice its a must have for me !! I also wish to see some German police units please :)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: thenamelessdead on 22 October 2012, 05:36:32 PM
Now to dream up a scenario involving a disorientated Bavarian stag party in central Asia..........wooohaha!
Count me in!  I'll bring the bratwursts, you bring the pilsner.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 23 October 2012, 02:54:10 PM
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! All noted but I'm not promissing nothing.  ;D

Thanks Westfalia Chris and commissarmoody for stepping in! I've just posted a third part on the historical background (this one dealing with the atrocities commited by both sides):
http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical_23.html (http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical_23.html)

Part one deals with the overall situation in Munich/Bavaria and the establishment of the Freikorps Werdenfeld and their trip to Munich:
http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical.html (http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical.html)

The second part consists of a brief report about the Werdenfelser in Munich:
http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical_2133.html (http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.de/2012/10/freikorps-werdenfels-historical_2133.html)

As written on the blog, if anybody got differing or additional information OR if you'd like more indepth information on certain aspects, please let me know. I hope to add a couple of posts dealing with history in coming weeks (maybe one with the complete report by Hauptmann Wagner and another with dealing with the propaganda role the Freikorps Werdenfels played).

I'm going to order some sets by Scheltrum and GreatWar Miniatures for comparison photos.  ;)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 24 October 2012, 10:02:49 PM
Cool, can't wait to see them.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 25 October 2012, 11:15:04 AM
Andrew Taylor has painted another casting of the standard bearer, this time using the specific Freikorps Werdenfels banner from Flags of War's banner sheet:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7EQx0hEOHcI/UIkQIYefodI/AAAAAAAAAY4/Xw7NdGlBc7A/s640/Werdenfels_05+Kopie+alt+Kopie.jpg)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Agis on 25 October 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Triple A!
A+ sculpt
A+ paintjob
A+ idea
 :o 8)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: flags_of_war on 25 October 2012, 11:58:42 AM
Looks great Markus. Andrews painting is not bad either but don't let him know i said that :P
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: area23 on 25 October 2012, 07:23:04 PM
Nice articles.
It's very hard to find decent info in english or other language on Bavaria/Munich during the raten/freikorps period.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: CorvetteK225 on 30 October 2012, 01:10:40 AM
I received my figures and flags today. All I can say is,  :o :-* :-* :-* :-*

Tsuba's communication was excellent and their speed in posting was spot on. The figures were carefully packaged between layers of bubble wrap with the smaller, loose items in Ziploc bags.

The figures are crisply molded with the most minimal of flash. Many figures won't even need to be cleaned up! The metal used is hard and strong which can be a hazzard if serious bending is required. Truthfully, I prefer the harder metals since they seem to allow for finer cast details. There were two slightly bent rifles which were quickly put back in order without any residual distortion. I credit this ease of resolution to both the quality of casting process, and the care taken in packaging.

In summary, these figures are phenomenal! My only regret is....Is....Nope, I have none! ;D  All I can say, is that if you are either an interwar or pulp gamer, these belong on your table.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Agis on 30 October 2012, 07:39:38 AM
Sums up my experience pretty well!
Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 31 October 2012, 09:07:20 AM
I received my figures and flags today. All I can say is,  :o :-* :-* :-* :-*

Tsuba's communication was excellent and their speed in posting was spot on. The figures were carefully packaged between layers of bubble wrap with the smaller, loose items in Ziploc bags.

The figures are crisply molded with the most minimal of flash. Many figures won't even need to be cleaned up! The metal used is hard and strong which can be a hazzard if serious bending is required. Truthfully, I prefer the harder metals since they seem to allow for finer cast details. There were two slightly bent rifles which were quickly put back in order without any residual distortion. I credit this ease of resolution to both the quality of casting process, and the care taken in packaging.

In summary, these figures are phenomenal! My only regret is....Is....Nope, I have none! ;D  All I can say, is that if you are either an interwar or pulp gamer, these belong on your table.

I second all of that.  Great figures, great service!!!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: NurgleHH on 31 October 2012, 10:50:44 AM
Andrew Taylor has painted another casting of the standard bearer, this time using the specific Freikorps Werdenfels banner from Flags of War's banner sheet:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7EQx0hEOHcI/UIkQIYefodI/AAAAAAAAAY4/Xw7NdGlBc7A/s640/Werdenfels_05+Kopie+alt+Kopie.jpg)

Your stuff is aoutstanding, any idea, what you do next???
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hammers on 31 October 2012, 01:00:51 PM
Oh bloody marvellous sir!!!  These are superb.  Order on the way.  Now to dream up a scenario involving a disorientated Bavarian stag party in central Asia..........wooohaha!  

The Tsingtao Brewery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsingtao_Brewery) militia.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 31 October 2012, 02:48:55 PM
The Tsingtao Brewery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsingtao_Brewery) militia.

In one Hammers me boy!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 31 October 2012, 05:35:19 PM
The Tsingtao Brewery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsingtao_Brewery) militia.
Terrible beer, but a great idea.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 31 October 2012, 07:20:11 PM
Terrible beer, but a great idea.

I had it analysed in the late 1980's.  The second most carcinogenic beer in the world.  At the time.  Guess which was the most carcinogenic?

Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Keith on 31 October 2012, 07:39:29 PM
Special Brew?  :-X
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: NurgleHH on 31 October 2012, 07:57:17 PM
The american version of budweiser or something from mexico...
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Za Zjurman on 31 October 2012, 08:01:37 PM
Heineken?

Very beautiful miniatures, might be a nice project for next year...
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 31 October 2012, 08:25:24 PM
Tecate Beer, Tecate Beer, it tastes like a Mexican's ass.

Actually carcinogenic or just toxic? Quilmes? Carling? Harp Lager? Southwark?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 31 October 2012, 09:29:09 PM
I had it analysed in the late 1980's.  The second most carcinogenic beer in the world.  At the time.  Guess which was the most carcinogenic?


Christ, that's a disturbing thought.  :?
But you've got my interest and I have no idea, so do tell!
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Ignatieff on 01 November 2012, 06:40:53 PM
That world renowned tipple, The worlds original pilsner style lager, Pilsner Urquell.  In those days the brewing was done underground (keeps the temperatures down) in huge wooden vats that dated from the Austro-Hungarian empire.  It looked magnificent, and was a 'purists' idea of heaven.  Problem was, in a cave, underground, you get bats.  And bats shat in the beer.  Not good.  I understand it's all stainless steel closed vats now, not as romantic, but a helluva lot cleaner.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: CorvetteK225 on 02 November 2012, 09:31:12 PM
Please keep to the topic of the miniatures.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: The Gray Ghost on 11 November 2012, 10:21:06 PM
Paul also did the Musketeer VBCW and ICW ranges which are usable. As is the Empress SCW range. There are anomalies. For instance, the Musketeer stuff strongly features Lee Enfields and Lewis guns and these would not be common in 1919 Germany. Nor would 1930's Italian and Soviet firearms.
Do you know if these two ranges are compatible in scale?
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 16 November 2012, 04:03:52 PM
Thanks for all the replies! (You can never know enough about beer.  ;D)

@ Gray Ghost: Which ones would you like? I got quite some from the Musketeer and Empress ranges...  ;)

I received two sets from Scheltrum today and took some comparison photos:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-biL7oVyJzTE/ULIYYoAY_oI/AAAAAAAAAdI/C1Qz48DRIMg/s1600/Scheltrum_01.jpg)
From left to right: Scheltrum - Tsuba - Scheltrum - Tsuba

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zbmZgGi4k7A/ULIYZLDyFsI/AAAAAAAAAdM/TZ0M15tmgPY/s1600/Scheltrum_02.jpg)
From left to right: Scheltrum - Tsuba - Scheltrum - Tsuba

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--ZV6-T2lhpY/ULIYZwcWEZI/AAAAAAAAAdU/pOLlsV4xLuI/s1600/Scheltrum_03.jpg)
From left to right: Tsuba - Scheltrum - Tsuba

The Scheltrum miniatures are from the sets 'SEM2 - Armed workers in shirt sleeves, advancing. Set of 4 assorted.' and 'SEM7 - Sparticists in civilian coats. Shooting and standing.'.

EDIT (November 25th): Better comparison photos added.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 23 January 2013, 03:16:14 PM
The Werdenfelser will soon (after moulding and casting) get some reinforcements in form of an assault set containing two guys armed with Bergmann MP18 submachineguns and a two man flamethrower team handling a Wex 17:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hDrYNCC5x_E/UP_s3yd0znI/AAAAAAAAAi8/HBLDwz2EZCY/s1600/smg.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pXrc2fzSJFo/UP_s3oYdjsI/AAAAAAAAAjA/xSIrRoqIVZA/s1600/flamer+front.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EdoJrJ99fQY/UP_s3ipJ3sI/AAAAAAAAAi4/dzTVJEC1WgE/s1600/flamer+back.jpg)

PLEASE NOTE: This set is NOT historical correct! The Freikorps Werdenfels was never equipped with these weapons. So, this set is purely for those, who use the miniatures in a non-historical setting (for example in  Pulp games, VBCW and others).
They are, however, the correct weapons for this time and other Freikorps/'White' units used them in the fightings of 1918/1919 in Germany.

Here are two photos showing the WEX 17 in use in Berlin 1919:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rd7ZGm7gaeA/UP_tiSdk-4I/AAAAAAAAAjU/rZvVZ9-O5d4/s1600/0_85b7e_15834ad5_XL.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Fd_-GMT9XAM/UP_tiFOr9XI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/USF84rPV9hM/s1600/0_3631f_1715ea29_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hammers on 23 January 2013, 03:22:34 PM
Never hear that name before.  Found a few more pics:

(http://i9.tinypic.com/2cwwi7k.jpg)

Apparently it was colloquially know as "The Field Mouse" (feldmaus).

(http://i40.tinypic.com/99pfm9.jpg)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hammers on 23 January 2013, 03:25:06 PM
Bavarians with flamethrowers is just a whacky idea...

Polka Age Wargaming.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 23 January 2013, 03:40:58 PM
You have to roast those Spanferkel somehow...  ::)

(http://www.spanferkel-beck.de/typo3temp/pics/558a5d2665.jpg)
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: huevans on 24 January 2013, 05:01:03 AM
These are insanely good, but they need opponents. The Scheltrum figures just are not in the same league.

With some Reds, you have all you need for a nice little Very German Civil War.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Za Zjurman on 24 January 2013, 08:26:39 AM
These are insanely good, but they need opponents. The Scheltrum figures just are not in the same league.

With some Reds, you have all you need for a nice little Very German Civil War.

I totally agree.

Regards,
Za
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: commissarmoody on 24 January 2013, 09:25:25 AM
I totally agree.

Regards,
Za


Yes what they said ^^^^^
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: carlos marighela on 24 January 2013, 06:01:16 PM
These are insanely good, but they need opponents. The Scheltrum figures just are not in the same league.

With some Reds, you have all you need for a nice little Very German Civil War.

Agreed, that Scheltrum figure grasping a rifle over his head with an overhand grip is just too bizarre for words.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Franz_Josef on 25 January 2013, 01:04:39 AM
Thanks for the pictures of the Wex 17 - had never seen the first picture before.  I agree that they need some Reds for opponents - Volksmarine and armed workers.
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Maichus on 26 January 2013, 02:59:26 PM
Thanks for the replies!   :)

I hear you regarding some opponents and I'm not saying it's never going to happen...  ;) But next on the list is the Japanese cavalry for the Russo-Japanese War and after that some goodies for the Russians. 
Title: Re: Tsuba Miniatures: Freikorps Werdenfels
Post by: Hammers on 03 February 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Oooh!