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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Mr.J on November 19, 2012, 10:07:44 PM
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Just saw this rather pointless teaser. Hopefully what appears on the 24th might be a bit more enlightening as this seems like a right waste of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fHTlGw0eBow
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Yep, 25 seconds of looking at a map...... Poor showing if they want to attract attention. Not sure if the LOTR game has run out of steam or not......
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They're probably not allowed to put any figs online yet, not before the movie has come out.
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Well, there have been enough trailers to know what the characters look like. :o
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This will be their attempt to reignite it I think. I love the LOTR figures but they are way out of my price bracket atm and honestly not spending that much money in iffy resin. I have tons unpainted from last time around so probably won't invest too heavily when they're released unless something really blows my mind.
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Yep, 25 seconds of looking at a map...... Poor showing if they want to attract attention. Not sure if the LOTR game has run out of steam or not......
hahaha, harsh, but true! XD
Anyway,... they shure are not loosing time!! ^^ I'm more interested on the movie, though...
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Dont they already have battle of the 5 armies out in 6mm! would be nice to see that for LOTR in general
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Dont they already have battle of the 5 armies out in 6mm! would be nice to see that for LOTR in general
Yes but it's 10mm. Nice game
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Nice game
Is it? How does it play?
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Is it? How does it play?
It's more or less Warmaster but set for LotR. Not played it myself, but looked often at it when I played Warmaster.
Duncan
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It's more or less Warmaster but set for LotR. Not played it myself, but looked often at it when I played Warmaster.
Very good game IMHO. There is a very good special Battle of Five Armies scenario, using all the miniatures and scenaries of the box.
In my gaming group at Lyon, France, we have decided to organize a whole BoFA day on november to celebrate the first movie! :)
More information here (http://warmaster-fr.niceboard.com/t2169-lyon-la-bataille-des-cinq-armees-15-12-2012).
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Interesting they mention Strategy Battle Game - I wonder if that is actually the same ruleset they already use for LotR? Maybe a "The Hobbit" Supplement? Even though the advert doesn't give away much, I am looking forward to the release of the miniatures and game, as it should make a nice addition to the LotR stuff already out there. I am even more looking forward to the film(s).
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I would guess that "The Hobbit - an Unexpected Journey" is a new starter set for LOTR SBG, replacing the "Mines of Moria" .
With a bit of luck, it will have plastic Bilbo and dwarves, 3 hill trolls and some new goblins.
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Here's a list I found: the prices look dodgy, though:
New Hobbit Strategy Battle Game releases. December 1st Release, prices given are USD:
Hobbit Strategy Battle Game Boxed Set - Escape from Goblin Town: $125.00 Limited Edition,
$115.00 Standard Edition. No idea what is in each box. (French versions will be released in Canada as well.)
Hardcover Rule Book: $85.00, 288 pgs. (French version will be released in Canada.)
Troll Boxed Set: Plastic, 3 Trolls, $85.00
Goblin Warriors: Plastic, 18 Goblins, $35.00 (Not sure if they are new sculpts or not.)
Goblin Town: Plastic, and Mounted), Finecast, $40.00
Hobbit Custom Carrying Case: 1 Case, $65.Goblin Town Upgrade, $60.00 (Suspect it is terrain.)
Hunter Orcs: Plastic, 12 Orcs, $35.00
Hunter Orcs on Fell Wargs: Plastic, 6 Mounted Orcs, $40.00
White Council: Finecast, 4 Figures, $75.00
Bolg: 1 Figure, Finecast, $25.00
Narzug: 1 Figure, Finecast, $20.00
Goblin Captain: 1 Figure, Finecast, $15.00
Fimbul the Hunter: 2 Figures
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and here:
All of you, be warned. There may be spoilers ahead. Only continue to read if you are willing to take that risk.
You have been warned.
Still here?
Ok.
Things I am guessing will be italic.
Release: 1st of december, with Preorders starting 1 week ahead, november 24th. All info regarding the new boxed set should be in the new White Dwarf, december issue, which is released at the same day.
Guesswork: Pictures (leaked) from the new White Dwarf around the 20th of november, based on other releases.
In this wave: I've heard there will be only a boxed set this wave. Danny76 mentioned more miniatures are to be releases shortly after the movie hit's theatres, along with a standalone hardback rulebook
New set of Rules: A completly new set of rules, compatible with older LotR releases. The sourcebooks from earlier ths year should still be valid. This probably means that the basics of the game will remain intact, with tweaks for balance and an overall better flow in the game
Boxed Set : The Boxed set will be the first thing released for The Hobbit tabletopgame. It's name is "The Hobbit: Escape from Goblin Town" It is rumoured to contain scenery and more miniaturs then Dark Vengeance (that would put it over 48 miniatures). most likely contains Gandalf the Grey, Bilbo Baggins, Thorin Oakenshield and Company. The opposing faction probably consist of the Great Goblin, Goblin forces, and could contain wargs, trolls, giant spiders, mountain giants and possibly gollum?.
Rumours of a limited edition have reached my ear. Nothing solid, though.
The price is located somewhere around 100€. For comparison to non-€uro currencies: The price for the Space Marine battalion is exactly 100 € atm.
This Release List showed up. Thanks for sharing!
Escape from Goblin Town Limited Edition: 100€ (56 figures!)
Hobbit Rulebook: 65€ (288 pages)
Hobbit Paint Set: 35€
Custom Figure Case: 50€
The White Council: 60€ (4 fig box)
The Trolls: 65€ (3 figure box)
Goblins of the Misty Mountains: 30€ (18 figure box)
Goblin Town: 45€ (scenery set?)
Hunter Orcs: 30€ (12 fig box)
Hunter Orcs on Fell Wargs: 35€ (6 fig box)
Bolg: 20€ (clampack)
Narzug: 15€ (clampack)
Goblin Captain: 13€ (clampack)
Fimbul the Hunter (ft & mtd): 35€
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Those prices look "plausible" based on recent GW prices.
Standard Game at US$ 115 is £72.30 at todays exchange rate.
Troll Boxed set at US$ 85 is £53.50 at todays exchange rate, which makes each troll £18.
18 Goblins at US$ 35 is £22.00 at todays exchange rate.
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Hmmmm! Shows how long ago they got money from me for figures....... :'(
£18 for a troll?
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The Mordor / Isenguard Troll kit is currently £25.00
The Warhammer "Island of Blood" starter set is £61.50
The 40K "Dark Vengeance" starter set is also £61.50
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That teaser is not even that. But i hope i have the money to see the movie. As for the miniatures, i am curious but most likely will not buy anything as most of my fantasy collection is in the old skool 28 mm heroic style. But i'm curious. Are you curious?-)
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I was curious, but this has priced me out. I already have loads of the LOTR minis that really don't need adding to. I stopped buying when they started creating new figures. The salesman at GW could not understand why I was asking why the Axemen of Lossarnach did not have axes. I gave up at this point and have not bought a GW figure since........ :(
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They really have priced me out of the game too. If they were more reasonably priced then maybe I would get a few. I'd love a few dwarves to add to my existing force, but I stopped buying those too when money got silly and the whole new finecast has really turned me off.
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Yep, 25 seconds of looking at a map...... Poor showing if they want to attract attention.
Probably trying to draw in the cartographers out there.
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Well, I could buy a box of Perrys for less than the price of a troll. That's a no-brainer! :D
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Yes, just found an unopened blister of Buhrdur, £18.50 on the GW site. Off for sale this weekend for more than I paid for it.......
Outrageous, I have to work for two hours to earn that.....
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Interesting they mention Strategy Battle Game - I wonder if that is actually the same ruleset they already use for LotR? Maybe a "The Hobbit" Supplement? Even though the advert doesn't give away much, I am looking forward to the release of the miniatures and game, as it should make a nice addition to the LotR stuff already out there. I am even more looking forward to the film(s).
There is a list of miniatures and scenarios which allegedly has been leaked from GW.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/08/10/60693-games-workshop-minatures-list-holds-hobbit-spoilers/ (http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/08/10/60693-games-workshop-minatures-list-holds-hobbit-spoilers/)
It should probably be read with a healthy dose of scepticism, but it seems to contain the kind of fanciful products GW would market.
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Um, 'Escape from GOBLIN TOWN'... I don't seem to remember such a chapter in the Hobbit. but it's been a long time since I read it, of course. o_o
Sounds like they've added a lot of stuff to the novel, again. Most annoying.
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Escape from Goblin town was in there, when they are traveling through the mountains.
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Oh you mean the episode with the goblin King? It was in the caves wasn't it? Does the English version use the word 'town'? I don't have the English version handy.
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There is a list of miniatures and scenarios which allegedly has been leaked from GW.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/08/10/60693-games-workshop-minatures-list-holds-hobbit-spoilers/ (http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/08/10/60693-games-workshop-minatures-list-holds-hobbit-spoilers/)
It should probably be read with a healthy dose of scepticism, but it seems to contain the kind of fanciful products GW would market.
"Grey Mountain Dragons: Bofur on Cold-Drake "
Oy...
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Oh you mean the episode with the goblin King? It was in the caves wasn't it? Does the English version use the word 'town'? I don't have the English version handy.
As far as I remember it doesn't, but it's been a few years seen I last read it.
"Grey Mountain Dragons: Bofur on Cold-Drake "
Oy...
Errrrr....what? That doesn't sound kosher Tolkien to me.
Duncan
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There seems to be some belief on TheOneRing.net that the list linked to above may be a fake, or at least may not be true to the movie, let alone the book!
At those prices I'm content to keep on with my kit-bashing the Dwarf Rangers...
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Another pointless film:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2780002a_AthleticTeaserNewsletter2.jpg)
I thought that I would be excited about this, but I have lost interest in a game that promises to be a bottomless spending pit.....
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Probably trying to draw in the cartographers out there.
Not this ex-Cartographer!
Map is even boring!
Gracias,
Glenn
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I thought that I would be excited about this, but I have lost interest in a game that promises to be a bottomless spending pit.....
What, like all wargames ever except unsuccessful ones?
Unfortunately our hobby requires us to spend money. The Hobbit SBG is a skirmish game and the battles in the storyline are usually quite small (BOTFA being the only exception AFAIK).
I'm really looking forward to it all coming out and playing some games...
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No, expensive as far as the figures are very expensive and I will feel obliged to buy all the releases as I did with LOTR. As far as skirmish goes, the three trolls will cost more than a I paid North Star or Gripping Beast for a whole metal force.
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Unfortunately our hobby requires us to spend money. The Hobbit SBG is a skirmish game and the battles in the storyline are usually quite small (BOTFA being the only exception AFAIK).
This is Games Workshop we are talking about, they'll just ignore the storyline to get people to purchase floods of minis for "megabattles"
"War of the Hobbit" or somesuch.
I'll have a look at the minis and the like with interest when they actually show something, but I doubt I'll actually fork over any money for them.
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Hello !
Nobody has to buy this stuff.
Do you think its really necessary to have another "I hate GW thread ?"
This Forum is full of those.
I think GW brings people into the hobby. At least in Germany. This means a new generation of Wargamers.
I am sure the increasing number of wargamers in Germany has its roots in GW Wargaming and especially TLOTR game.
In my eyes the GW players are themselves responsible for the development of GW price politics. The customers made a tournament game out of the GW products and thus need new powers to be competitive and GW increases the prices.
For me my GW times actually are over. I don`t find the time anymore to play the games. I am more into historical now but sometimes I miss a good game of Mordheim, 40 k or WH Fantasy with my good friends who are nice and friendly players.
Regards
Björn
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GW bashing? Not at all.
It was such a long time since I bought any GW LOTR figures that I was stunned by the price hike, even by GW standards.
...and the videos seem quite pointless to me. ???
That they bring in a lot of gamers, that is undoubted.
The hobby needs young blood or it will wither. A glance around any wargames show reveals a mainly aging population of grey-haired gamers!
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Ok, back on topic!
Here are some "leaked" photos from the White Dwarf due out tomorrow ("leaked"? This is ridicoulous...anyway)
http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2012/11/noticias-aun-mas-fotos-de-la-white.html?m=1 (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2012/11/noticias-aun-mas-fotos-de-la-white.html?m=1)
I'm not really over-excited, although I'm not that excited about the movie either so might just be that. The miniatures look fine, but not much more...
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Well, I may be tempted if it comes with the scenery, I could find a use for that........ :o
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Are they actually releasing stuff on the 24th or is it just another announcment "we're releasing a game!" like they did with 6th edition 40K?
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I love the GW LotR range even if it is expensive. Doesn't take away anything from the quality of most models. And I am really looking forward to the Hobbit range.
As to things that are not in the hobbit: they are implicitely in there. Remember Gandalf leaves the company on the eaves of Mirkwood because he has "urgent business down south". Now as anybody familiar with Tolkien's works will know this "business" was the assault on Dol Guldur in order to oust Sauron from Mirkwood - the last time the White Council (the three istari, Elrond, Galadriel and Cirdan) took any decisive actions. So yes, there is plenty of opportunity for battles beside the Battle of five Armies. And those are the models I am really looking forward to.
And what I can see from those pictures posted by tomek I must say there is some real eye-candy in there. Not all of it but enough to make me really excited.
Can't really say anything about the videos posted here. I'm not really an expert on comercials but it looks to me like GW is trying to copy some trailers for (can't remember which film it was) that slowly started to reveal more and more about what movie they were trying to introduce. Next up I'll wager we'll be presented with a few models and then a little more. maybe not really too original but I have seen worse (like anything having to do with Twilight :D).
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Indeed, the theme for the second or third film will be the bits alluded to in The Hobbit but not defined, I imagine that Peter Jackson is looking to tie up the threads that appear in LOTR, a kind of filler between the two films using much of the history that JRR created.
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Are they actually releasing stuff on the 24th or is it just another announcment "we're releasing a game!" like they did with 6th edition 40K?
I believe the 24th is the first date you can pre-order, and they'll be released in the first week in December.
Yes, the prices are shocking, but I can see myself getting some orc hunters and wolf-riders.
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Check out this link for pics of miniatures: http://www.cytadela.pl/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2012
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Yes, the prices are fucking atrocious and in a wargaming hobby context I think that fact should be articulated and discussed. So should their "interpretation".
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Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard? Apart from this, scuplting is pretty bad at least as for trolls and goblins.
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Some of those minis look very nice. Some do not match up to either my imagination or the existing franchise imagery, maybe if the goblins were painted with less skin tones I might be more of a fan.
Like I said though it would be a question of costs for me, not GW bashing, it's just money is tight and they are expensive. I am looking forward to having a proper look at what else they have to release.
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Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard?
I'll admit to having a proper rant about that when I saw the pictures last Sunday.
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Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.
They are probably finecast... ;)
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Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.
I think it may be more down to the paint job as GW seem to do some weird paint jobs these days.
I don't think too much of the releases are finecast
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These don't match my interpretation of the books at all and I hope these sculpts aren't based too heavily on the new film or that could also be a massive disappointment!
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They'll be exactly from the films I'm afraid.
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The new orcs look quite a bit like the Falmer from Skyrim.
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Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard? Apart from this, scuplting is pretty bad at least as for trolls and goblins.
Dwarves without beards? I followed the last link (need to catch up on this thread in it's entirety) and I thought they all had beards, just short ones. I can buy short beards for the younger dwarves for a variety of reasons...
I would like pictures I could zoom in on for a better look.
Price alone (not my well documented anti-GW "bigotry"/bias) will probably keep me from buying these. That and size since all my dwarves pretty much scale in with the Der Kriegspieler ones from the 1970's and very early Ral Partha. (except the smaller ones I use as a dwarven related race akin to underground fairies.)
Gracias,
Glenn
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Hello !
Nobody has to buy this stuff.
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Regards
Björn
Very true and I probably won't.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Do you think its really necessary to have another "I hate GW thread ?"
This Forum is full of those.
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Regards
Björn
I believe it is appropriate to criticize where criticism is due.
And criticizing GW is certainly akin to shooting fish in a barrel with their (IMO) predatory practices.
If you like them but them. If not don't. The line between freedom of expression and "hate" is in the eyes of the beholder in this case.
Gracias,
Glenn
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They'll be exactly from the films I'm afraid.
And I can accept that for the films.
Not too close to my view but the Gospel according to Glenn isn't necessary for the movie/story. I even accepted Bakshi Goblins for the animated film...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.
They do nothing for me either, I'm afraid. I was pleased to hear the movie was going to attempt a new version of Goblin for the Misty Mountains, in particular because FotR's Moria Goblins had such a specific design aesthetic (shields made to resemble the Balrog's wings, big eyes for seeing in a dark etc), but these figures, painted as they are, leave me cold. On the other hand I still have plenty of the Rings plastic Goblins on sprue and will happily kitbash them :)
I am tempted by the Dwarves though...
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I believe it is appropriate to criticize where criticism is due.
And criticizing GW is certainly akin to shooting fish in a barrel with their (IMO) predatory practices.
If you like them but them. If not don't. The line between freedom of expression and "hate" is in the eyes of the beholder in this case.
Gracias,
Glenn
Come on... That is the same as saying "If you don't like reading criticism towards GW, don't read it." Why should we not discuss poor wargaming marketing strategies and bad wargames theme interpretations? This is a wargames forum after all.
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The preorders are up on the website and the 'Lord of the Rings' category has been changed to 'The Hobbit'.
Regardless of whether you like GW or not, you have to agree the prices for this stuff is rather offensive, especially considering the fugliness of many of the sculpts re: goblins
At least the older LOTR stuff was for the most part full of awesome sculpts.
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Had a look and I'm really unimpressed. Don't mind the dwarves or the White Council, but it seems the only way to get the dwarves is to shell out £75 on the boxed set and the White Council are in finecast which I don't like. Everything else is pretty poor.
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The White Council, while decent sculpts, are totally not worth $90CAD for four miniatures on foot.
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Actually, who is sculpting these figures?
They don't look like the Perrys' work, am I right?
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970003a&prodId=prod1830102a
:o
And I thought some kickstarters had exaggerated prices ...
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Goblins are ideal as mutants, I can see me picking those up and £20 isnt too bad
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Well, those prices are what I expected but too expensive for me to buy now, I was tempted but I have other games to play........ :o
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Well, those prices are what I expected but too expensive for me to buy now, I was tempted but I have other games to play........ :o
Give it 6 months and they will be cheap as chips oin ebay :D lol
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...or a carboot sale!!!
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Quite like the hunter Orcs. Still not sure on the design of the goblins.
I love how the Hobbit has totally overthrown the entire LotR section of the site which is now a tiny three column afterthought.
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Damn, I thought I had gotten used to GW's disproportionate pricing, but these... wow...
I'm looking forward to "Joe Public's" reaction to finecast...
The LotR line attracted quite a few non-wargamer/modellers back then, I think this will as well. Wonder what someone with an average consumer's expectations will think of the stuff? >:D
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Presumably the design of the goblins etc are determined by the character designs of the movie, so maybe not entirely fair to blame GW if you don't like the look...
So (depending on what we see when the movie comes out in a couple of weeks), maybe the question should be directed at Peter Jackson / Weta / Alan Lee et al - if the 'Moria' goblins under the Misty Mountains looked like they did in the Lord of The Rings movies, why would the goblins under the Misty Mountains look so totally different in The Hobbit?
Just to ring the changes presumably... Because 'same old' is boring and 'new' is clever and interesting. :)
I think the 'hunter orcs' look rather good. Slight flavour of Woodland Indians about them to my eye.
Will be interested to see if this is cited as one of the design references when we get to see all those lovely appendices on the eventual DVDs of the movies...
The prices are a different matter of course. But that's a complaint that never changes and probably isn't going to go away as long as there are parents doting enough to let their kids pester them into paying silly prices for toys... Because let's remember, that's the market GW are aiming for.
I do think it's a bit cheeky that they've repurposed one of the original LOTR cave trolls into one of the Trollshaws trolls though lol
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The projection is that I will be as thrilled about The Hobbit movie as I was about the LotR. :)
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I do think it's a bit cheeky that they've repurposed one of the original LOTR cave trolls into one of the Trollshaws trolls though lol
You really think so? I am glad they have *some* sense of consistency within their interpretation.
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Come on... That is the same as saying "If you don't like reading criticism towards GW, don't read it." Why should we not discuss poor wargaming marketing strategies and bad wargames theme interpretations? This is a wargames forum after all.
Perhaps my intent was misunderstood, I am one of those "GW haters" another poster referred to while saying we shouldn't have critical threads on LAF. Granted we are not TMP but bash away if you like, I just have grown tired of posting (to me obvious) how bad GW can be at sculpting design recently, how asinine their pricing has always been and always will be, and how much hubris the "GW hobby" lobby has/will always have. I generally stick to one, "... And you expected what else from GW?" type thread nowadays.
I don't own any LOTR but those were the one GW produced figures I ever was tempted to buy. Third sigma for GW norms...
Gracias,
Glenn
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I don't know what to think. :?
I understand that the look of the Misty Mountains goblins and Dwarf characters comes from Peter Jackson/Weta/Alan Lee etc's vision but this new is better concept sucks.
I guess I have to see the movie before I can reallycomment on the Gobbos, but for now I think they look like rubbish but are probably very accurate to the movie as are the dwarves (who have short/no beards and no traveling cloaks >:()
The hunter orcs look decent and are more similar to LOTR orcs (which I like and can grasp given the geographical distance between Misty Mountains and Moria and the time span between the Hobbit and LOTR.
The tagline on the website states: "A stunning new range of Ctadel miniatures"
I'd say a stunning new way of pricing Citadel miniatures.
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To be fair, some of the figures in the range look quite useful for other projects, like the Goblins could make decent mutants or degenerates, and the orcs look pretty good in their own way.
I know that they have to reproduce the Weta look from the films, which has not always been my cup of tea (elves especially!) so that are stuck with that.
If I was doing a LOTR project I would use other figures, but these seem to have a use somewhere, just not my view of what Tolkien intended.
I may well pick a few up later, but will use my usual GW product policy: Wait for a while, until someone has had enough of them and flogs them on ebay on the cheap!
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Today's two GW videos show the products - 1. contents of the boxed set in detail and 2. good views of the other packs.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=6000006-gws
Peter Jackson Production of the Hobbit Video 9 is here.
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, Video #9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vqyzHwnEiY
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I think that if painted in earthy hues the Goblin Warriors might be more passable. I have to say I'm not overly impressed by the look of the creatures in the forthcoming film: the trolls particularly look very uninspired, but at least the Wargs actually look like wolves now!
I was interested in jumping on board this with my son as a joint-project thing, but at these prices GW have definitely lost a customer. Whatever defenders might claim, £45 for four FC models is utterly ludicrous; even Forge World is cheaper these days!
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even Forge World is cheaper these days!
Not to mention cast better (and better material than FC)...
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I was interested in jumping on board this with my son as a joint-project thing, but at these prices GW have definitely lost a customer. Whatever defenders might claim, £45 for four FC models is utterly ludicrous;
I'm probably behind the times, but what does FC stand for?
How old is your son?
We run a school club so if you want ideas we might be able to pass on advice.
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Weird that the dwarves walked halfway across Middle Earth without any cloaks or gear (makes you wonder how they're keeping their beards so wonderfully trimmed and tidy!). Weirder still that they all seem to have taken off and lost the coloured hoods that Tolkien went to great lengths to describe on numerous occasions.
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Weird that the dwarves walked halfway across Middle Earth without any cloaks or gear (makes you wonder how they're keeping their beards so wonderfully trimmed and tidy!). Weirder still that they all seem to have taken off and lost the coloured hoods that Tolkien went to great lengths to describe on numerous occasions.
And Jackson misses out on an obvious merchandise line - dwarf hoodies.
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And Jackson misses out on an obvious merchandise line - dwarf hoodies.
lol!
You gotta hand it to GW though, they market quite well. That video of the boxed set makes it look a bit more appealing. Not enough to change my mind. It is somewhat relieving to note that the two dwarfs who seem to have the shortest/most absent beards are Fili and Killi, who, if my memory serves correctly, were the youngest of the dwarfs.
It is rather odd that the only way to get the core game content is to buy the 'limited edition' boxed set. Once that is gone, there will be no other way to get a starter set for the game. Likely they will release a 'regular' starter after this one runs out, and it won't have Radagast in it and will likely cost the same. That and you cant buy they dwarfs separately.
As for the missing dwarf hoods, I think that's likely a matter of taste for the new generation - kids will probably rather see battle-hardened, grim dwarf outfits rather than colourful hoods, shiny belts, and giant backpacks.
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I'm probably behind the times, but what does FC stand for?
Fine Cast
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Fine Cast
Thank you.
Is that some kind of resin?
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I think the 'hunter orcs' look rather good. Slight flavour of Woodland Indians about them to my eye.
Will be interested to see if this is cited as one of the design references when we get to see all those lovely appendices on the eventual DVDs of the movies...
Over on the website it makes a real point about their mohawk haircuts.
"They sport mainly bald heads with tufts of hair in the centre, lending them a savage appearance," said Games Workshop.
I though they were chanelling Front 242, with the hair and the hunter theme.
But there were no eggs to be seen, so Native Americans makes more sense!
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Thank you.
Is that some kind of resin?
Yes, it's a kind of plastic-resin hybrid material. They introduced it in June 2011 to replace metal as a manufacturing material for the non-standard figures and sets (i.e. the ones people will only buy small numbers of due to the way the army lists are structured, the core stuff and top sellers tend to be replaced by injection-moulded plastic).
It's a bit hit and miss. I have bought two Finecast items, the first an initial wave Space Marine and recently a box of Plague Marines. The former had some considerable casting flaws (which I only noticed too late, but then rectified in less time than it would have taken to go to the store and exchange it, but still the product should be better), but the latter were very well done, and it seems the material is indeed suited for some fine detail. Not that it would justify the concurrent price hike and the awful marketing hubbub they ran.
I think it works well if you get a good batch of models, and I have not noticed any long-term flaws (yet).
On topic, some interesting things, but nothing that makes me want to venture into Tolkien territory. That LE Radagast looks somewhat awkward in particular. Strange proportions, I guess. The plastic orcs and goblins look rather interesting, and not too expensive in Euro prices for what you get, but I'd rather want to see them in the flesh before making any rash decisions.
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That LE Radagast looks somewhat awkward in particular. Strange proportions, I guess.
It is still much better than the previous sculpt which was done by that, in my opinion, rather talentless sculptor Gary Morely.
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I reckon the starter set is a good deal, and as Lowtardog says, the goblins are a good source of "degenerates" for a variety of gaming genres.
The rest of the releases are a mix of price increases (a box of 12 LotR/Hobbit infantry now costs twice what it did at the start of the year), the ugly (trolls...) and the insane (the prices for Bolg, Fimbul, the White Council).
I may consider the starter and some of the hunters/wargs, but my Kickstarters are starting to roll in over the next few weeks, and I already have a lot of painting to do in 2013.
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I bought the White Dwarf yesterday to have a closer look at the minis. Well, I think the dwarven models are really beautiful and I do really like the Gandalf model from the White council box. I was shocked by some of the other models, but those are actually design flaws by the movie makers. The great goblin looking like a mixture of troll and goblin is really a turn-off. The goblins are a little too diseased for my taste. And why does Bolg have to be a large creature? He might be king of all orcs in the misty mountains but should still only be an orc. Final judgement on that after watching the movie...
What really grossed me out was the painting on some of the models. While the dwarves were very nicely painted the rather too simplistic approach for the goblins and the wargs sucks. Just a basecoat of some grey skin color with a wash of sienna - that's what it looks like. Sorry, in my taste greys and reds don't mix well like that. So a lot of the disappointment after seeing these models comes from sloppy paint jobs.
I am shocked by the prices but then again I didn't expect anything else. I have long since given up hoping for any reasonable pricing-policy on their side.
Still; I'm very excited about this new movie. As a teen I was rather bored with the hobbit as I had read the LotR first and the Hobbit is a long shot away from that in terms of mood and language. I am looking forward to seeing PJ's translation of the childish language into a story that hopefully appears to be closer to "what really happened" - if you get my drift.
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I do really like the Gandalf model from the White council box. I was shocked by some of the other models, but those are actually design flaws by the movie makers. The great goblin looking like a mixture of troll and goblin is really a turn-off. The goblins are a little too diseased for my taste. And why does Bolg have to be a large creature? He might be king of all orcs in the misty mountains but should still only be an orc. Final judgement on that after watching the movie...
What really grossed me out was the painting on some of the models. While the dwarves were very nicely painted the rather too simplistic approach for the goblins and the wargs sucks. Just a basecoat of some grey skin color with a wash of sienna - that's what it looks like. Sorry, in my taste greys and reds don't mix well like that. So a lot of the disappointment after seeing these models comes from sloppy paint jobs.
Ditto
The goblins I think just look shoddy and a long shot away from what I imagined as goblins. I'm feeling very underwhelmed, and if these models are based on the movie, then I'm no longer sure I wish to see the movie.
Duncan
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Ditto
The goblins I think just look shoddy and a long shot away from what I imagined as goblins. I'm feeling very underwhelmed, and if these models are based on the movie, then I'm no longer sure I wish to see the movie.
Duncan
Not what a lot of people imagined I should think. I understand that is what creatures who live in the bowels of the earth would mutate into. But The Hobbit is fantasy.
They are meant to be goblins, not mole-people... :(
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That and you cant buy they dwarfs separately.
One word - Ebay.
Patience, they will show up on Ebay, everything shows up on Ebay eventually.
I have always used my own dwarves (Der Kriegspieler and very early Ral Partha primarily) to represent JRRT's Dwarf personalities and never worried about "official" figures ever. Intentional lack of concern for "official" figures has always been my way. Not for Starguard, not for LOTR based games, and even not for Historical games. "Sure that is Lee - says so on you roster sheet. See? C1 on the base = Lee on the roster."
Gracias,
Glenn
Iconoclast First Class
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One word - Ebay.
Patience, they will show up on Ebay, everything shows up on Ebay eventually.
Yeah, I am sure the dwarfs will be available on ebay. Though it is odd that GW is not offering them for individual resale. I mean, for 13 dwarfs they could charge what, like $100? ;)
Not what a lot of people imagined I should think. I understand that is what creatures who live in the bowels of the earth would mutate into. But The Hobbit is fantasy.
They are meant to be goblins, not mole-people... :(
Heh, mole-people...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZnJcluoe1mk/TxzhArFHZdI/AAAAAAAAK7Q/Tlo_4c0LNvQ/s1600/hans+moleman+earthquake+machine+fortress+of+the+mole.jpeg)
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Though it is odd that GW is not offering them for individual resale. I mean, for 13 dwarfs they could charge what, like $100? ;)
If you look at the pictures on GW's site, the breakdown of the sprues suggests obvious opportunities for splitting into separate boxed sets. They've already done it for the goblins and the wooden plank Goblin Town set. Give it a few months and they'll have a box for the... whatever the not-Fellowship hero group is called.
Or, as suggested already, wait for the bits sellers on ebay. Or you could always buy the box and offload the other bits yourself.
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Didn't we get something like five different variants and repackagings of the LotR fellowship? Last time I checked, the Hobbit movie was going to be a trilogy. (Although by now it could just as well be six or seven parts. I haven't been following the news.) There's plenty of time to re-sell the dwarfs and other characters several times. Don't worry.
The point of initial launch sets is to bundle up stuff and sell you far more than you could possibly need. As if we wouldn't be doing that anyway. ::)
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Heh, mole-people...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZnJcluoe1mk/TxzhArFHZdI/AAAAAAAAK7Q/Tlo_4c0LNvQ/s1600/hans+moleman+earthquake+machine+fortress+of+the+mole.jpeg)
Man, that's brilliant!
How did I forget? lol
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Yesterday late i ended up, by purpose, on the GW website to have a look at the new Hobbit miniatures and stuff. The orcs now look like radioactively disfigured Mongolian herdsmen.
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Yesterday late i ended up, by purpose, on the GW website to have a look at the new Hobbit miniatures and stuff. The orcs now look like radioactively disfigured Mongolian herdsmen.
While we are on the subject...
Are you in the market for a radioactively disfigured Mongolian?
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Not a fan of the goblins. I liked the look of the goblins from The Lord of the Rings, I don't know why they had to go back and re-do the look. I don't like the goblin king being so large either. The figures do have potential, I could see them being used as morlocks in a pulp game. Pretty disappointed this is what the goblins of the Misty Mountains are going to look like in the film. I'll end up using the Moria Goblins in my games, with Durbuz subbing as the Goblin King.
The Hunter Orcs look pretty good. Very lightly armored orcs that look like they could have stepped out of the LotR trillogy. Not a fan of the Mohawks on them, but those can be easily shaved off.
The Hunter Orcs on Fell Wargs I find very interesting. They are a move away from the hyena looking Wargs from the Trilogy, and look more like gigantic wolves. Pretty much the way they were described in the novel. I prefer these over the LotR Warg riders. Again not a fan of the Mohawks, but that can be easily fixed.
The cost of the figures is pretty likely going to keep me away from buying them right away. I'm going to end up waiting for the figures to appear on ebay, and in the meantime use my existing collection of LotR miniatures to play the new game.
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Those goblins would work quite well in a Chtulu setting.
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GW Trolls
Movie Trolls
GW has screwed the pooch on this one. Utter tripe!
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lol!
It is rather odd that the only way to get the core game content is to buy the 'limited edition' boxed set. Once that is gone, there will be no other way to get a starter set for the game. Likely they will release a 'regular' starter after this one runs out, and it won't have Radagast in it and will likely cost the same. That and you cant buy they dwarfs separately.
The Radagast figure is unique to the limited edition box, the regular box has everything else though, and is a few bucks cheaper.
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Worst comes to worse, the hunter orcs could be a good basis for converions for Reavers from Serenity/Firefly... (though I'll probably wait until someone else sells them in disappointment rather than buying a box from the off...)
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Those goblins would work quite well in a Chtulu setting.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Tcho-tcho, or mutant degenerates...
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Yep those goblins could be used for everything but as goblins.
Thinking about Cthulhu, necromunda, Post apoc.
Silly prices though, I'll be waiting for ebay
Regards,
Za
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Silly prices though, I'll be waiting for ebay
Same here.
We had all better be careful, though.
Too many waiting for ebay will make the auction market almost as expensive as the original price.
;)
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Same here.
We had all better be careful, though.
Too many waiting for ebay will make the auction market almost as expensive as the original price.
;)
I am in no hurry what soever. I'm currently working on 15+ projects :D. In time when the price is right I may be tempted. I just am very amazed about the prices though. I'm more them willing to pay dear money for a good (metal) miniature, but 60 euros for The White Counsil is just silly. That is 15 Euros per resin model o_o o_o.
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Even if they don't make it to ebay cheaply I won't lose any sleep over it. Most of my LotR figure purchases are from other companies these days. Especially Wargames Factory which scales pretty nicely with the current figures.
Same here.
We had all better be careful, though.
Too many waiting for ebay will make the auction market almost as expensive as the original price.
;)
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I agree with you on the Radagast model, I much prefer the older metal version.
On topic, some interesting things, but nothing that makes me want to venture into Tolkien territory. That LE Radagast looks somewhat awkward in particular. Strange proportions, I guess. The plastic orcs and goblins look rather interesting, and not too expensive in Euro prices for what you get, but I'd rather want to see them in the flesh before making any rash decisions.
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I actually like all the stuff, the wargs are so much better, I like the trolls , the only thing I don't like are the prices, but I bet they sell a whole bunch of stuff even at this price!
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Who is sculpting these figures?
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Who is sculpting these figures?
Michael and Alan Perry sculpted a lot of them, but there are other sculptors involved as well.
I'm going for the limited edition Starter set.
I'll also look out for the trolls on ebay in a few months.
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While we are on the subject...
Are you in the market for a radioactively disfigured Mongolian?
An actual Mongolian or a miniature?
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Michael and Alan Perry sculpted a lot of them, but there are other sculptors involved as well.
Since everything the Perrys do is wonderful, the best there is and also not from this world the only logical conclusionmust be: we all need new glasses. :D
I've ordered the hobbit set. Yes, it's overpriced, but I want it nonetheless. I had too many models slip through my fingers that I intended to buy later and never got around doing it. And I think that no matter what the GW starter boxes are usually fun and not the worst bargain out there.
Plus I want to know if I can't make those goblins look a little better by painting them not like GW - they look like the painters have never before painted a model in their life!
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Michael and Alan Perry sculpted a lot of them, but there are other sculptors involved as well.
I'm going for the limited edition Starter set.
I'll also look out for the trolls on ebay in a few months.
The Perry twins would make sense!
But I'm a bit surprised, it doesn't really look like their work.
Mind you... the fleshy lumps aren't a great measure! lol
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While we are on the subject...
Are you in the market for a radioactively disfigured Mongolian?
Not if it looks like a GW orc.
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The Perry twins would make sense!
But I'm a bit surprised, it doesn't really look like their work.
Mind you... the fleshy lumps aren't a great measure! lol
On second thought....perhaps a radioactively disfigured orc was responsible for the design proces and the painting of the miniatures. That would explain everything. Well, not everything. We are still left we the question as to who actually murdered Robert Kennedy.
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Goblins are ideal as mutants, I can see me picking those up and £20 isnt too bad
I agree I will most likely try to get these but not to use as goblins
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Not if it looks like a GW orc.
He does a bit.... :?
Maybe put a bag over his head?
The radioactive glow makes a great night-light.
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He does a bit.... :?
Maybe put a bag over his head?
The radioactive glow makes a great night-light.
...put a little light in his mouth he might swell up and float away.....never to been seen again
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Exactly what I was thinking.
Tcho-tcho, or mutant degenerates...
That's the name I was looking for, the Tcho-tcho. It's like we have one brain between the two of us! ;)
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That's the name I was looking for, the Tcho-tcho. It's like we have one brain between the two of us! ;)
lol lol lol
Optimism!
I like it!
;)
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I don't know about you fellas;
(http://i.imgur.com/N4xBQ.jpg)
But I'm just enthralled by the deranged little goblin feckers.
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They are interesting... but they look more like Morlocks to me than goblins. I like the dwarf figures a lot.
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I honestly think, that the paint job is leading to all the morlock comparisons.
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As I said, I am curious to see if I can do them differently and hopefully better. And how they will look like if you mix them with the "original" Moria goblins.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WNRLBMH2ACI
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Try saying 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Strategy Battle Game' after a few pints...
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All I can say is I like them :D. I can see those goblins as the Martense family from Lovecraft´s "The lurking fear", http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/lf.asp (http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/lf.asp).
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I highly doubt I'll be able to keep myself from buying this. I'm trying to take it one day at a time, but I think I'll be off the wagon in about 24-48 hours from now...
And i hadn't purchased a GW figure since they released the Corsairs of Umbar plastic set back in 2009... Dammit! :)
n.
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Successfully maintaining my goal of never knowingly buying a GW miniature or a GW set of rules.
Gracias,
Glenn
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An actual Mongolian or a miniature?
lol You had me in stitches there...
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Sad to see that GW brought out the game before the movie. With this in mind the movie experience will be not as good as I will always be reminded of the GW rip off (e.g. $125 for 4 white council figures) This whole "let's cash in on some movie franchise" is getting worse and worse
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Sad to see that GW brought out the game before the movie. With this in mind the movie experience will be not as good as I will always be reminded of the GW rip off (e.g. $125 for 4 white council figures) This whole "let's cash in on some movie franchise" is getting worse and worse
Should we follow the spirit of the time and organise an Occupy Games Workshop?
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I thought it was already occupied?
...By 12 year olds with boxes full of SPaec Mareens! :D
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The Radagast figure is heinously bad. What is with the running/leaping pose and feet that look too small and triangular. Is he holding a hedgehog? Uggh.
I have the old metal one and love it to bits.
I have almost all of the original GW LOTR figures and really enjoyed the game's last incarnation. But these new minis are not even remotely tempting.
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We are talking someone that shaves his pubes and sticks them on his feet to feel more like a hobbit level of fanboi.
lol
That cracked me up!
Scurv: You are a nutter!
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My daughter and I love to pull out the Mines of Moria set and play, she even helped out painting the terrain and figure bases.
We read the Hobbit a couple of years ago and watched the animated movie not too long ago. When I showed her this set she thought it was cool and asked if we could get it so she could help paint it and then play.
So, though I don't shave my pubes and glue them to my feet lol I am excited to get the basic box set.
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What about us folks that were born with hairy feet and toes?
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You're still allowed to shave your pubes if you want to.
;)
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I'm still aghast that he's able to bet a "sack of Yeti pubes" Honestly, who keep that around the house?
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You're still allowed to shave your pubes if you want to.
;)
Thanks for the permission Captain ;D
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I'm still aghast that he's able to bet a "sack of Yeti pubes" Honestly, who keep that around the house?
What? Is it not fashionable any longer?
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With you Scurv (on the game, not the, uh, ladies...):
Goblins, dwarves, Bilbo, Gandalf - really nice models;
Great Goblin - not great;
Scenery - OK, I do like the great Goblin's poop pot :D
Rules - looking good. Complete ruleset (including sieges), lots of new rules for weapons (whips and picks and the like), and big monsters get some scary new options to make them suitably nasty again (Hurl and Rend are the ones that I remember - yes, you can throw smaller opponents around). After a very short glance through, these seem like a sensible rounding out of the LotR rules.
Downside - the only stats in the boxed game are for the models in the box, and no points values ("The scenarios in the box are perfectly balanced" said the blackshirt in the shop). So the starts for Bolg, hunter orcs, etc. are on the GW website, and their points costs and special rules are in... the £50 hardback. Probably won't be buying into this just for that reason, although I may pick up a couple of the individual boxes at discount. I'll see what the rules booklet goes for on eBay, although most likely the jokers will be charging £20.
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Ok everyone stop shaving.
Too late. And let me tell you, the hot glue from the hot glue gun does not feel nice on one's toes.
I ordered the main box during the Warstore's Black Friday discount so paid about what GW was charging for the Moria set. Mine should be delivered next week.
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Ouch, let me say that using the hot glue gun to put the hair back where it came from was worse than getting it on the toes...
:o
Still, better than the staple gun...
:D
I do intend to paint the critters to match my Moria set. I'm actually excited about getting this, not so much because it is The Hobbit, but because my daughter is excited. It is cool to see it through the eyes of a 10 year old.
Jake
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All I can say is I like them :D. I can see those goblins as the Martense family from Lovecraft´s "The lurking fear", http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/lf.asp (http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/lf.asp).
+1
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Oh and some 'chunky' fellow in there had the cheek to tell me it was all the tax departments fault with their import duties that the prices were so high. ::) THen again this is the same chap that turned undercoating a terrain peice into setting off a fuel air bomb in the smokers alley of my mate the brothel inspectors work. Some people eh.
Now THAT is a mental image not easily forgotten.
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Saw the new sets at Pudsey today.
Couldn't believe some of the prices.
Goblin town at £30 for about the same amount of plastic as a set of Renedra tents or a pontoon bridge.
White Council £40 for 4 figures? For that price I would expect them to be gift wrapped by Cate Blanchett.
Hardback rulebook £50, I suppose compares to other people putting books out at £30 (although most of those come with a free metal figure), so it's actually quite cheap on the GW scale - it should probably cost £80 or £90.
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I'm still aghast that he's able to bet a "sack of Yeti pubes" Honestly, who keep that around the house?
What is the problem?
I keep a bag of yeti pubes around my neck, to ward off evil spirits.
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What is the problem?
I keep a bag of yeti pubes around my neck, to ward off evil spirits.
You do know that we have Frothers for this sort of thing?
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The goblins are nice minis but the figures for the hobbit seem a world away from the LOTR ones, does this mirror the film, Not sure why the style was changed....
Indeed, the theme for the second or third film will be the bits alluded to in The Hobbit but not defined, I imagine that Peter Jackson is looking to tie up the threads that appear in LOTR, a kind of filler between the two films using much of the history that JRR created.
Are they making 3 Hobbit films? Wow! I thought 1 was ll there was!
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From what I understand it's going to be split up like this.
Part one - The Journey to Mirkwood
Part Two - The White Council vs the Necromancer
Part Three - Journey to the Lonely Mountain, and the Battle of the Five Armies
I'm looking forward to part two. It doesn't appear in the story itself, I think it is alluded to in the Simarillion. We will have a epic throw down between Sauron in his guise as the Necromancer of Mirkwood, vs Gandalf, Saruman, Galadriel, Elrond, and Radagast.
The goblins are nice minis but the figures for the hobbit seem a world away from the LOTR ones, does this mirror the film, Not sure why the style was changed....
Are they making 3 Hobbit films? Wow! I thought 1 was ll there was!
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It's been known for ages that The Hobbit movies are going to be a trilogy...
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For that price I would expect them to be gift wrapped by Cate Blanchett
A gift wrapped Cate Blanchett? I'll take three!
No wait...
D'oh!
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If cinemas are going to go down this road then bring back the intermission I says. In fact it would be a stupid nanny state rule I could go for.
I quite liked the intermissions we had back in the days of olde. They heightened the enjoyment.
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I quite liked the intermissions we had back in the days of olde. They heightened the enjoyment.
I, for one, am always one for an intermission.
Sitting down for a film at a cinema is a sure way for my bladder to decide that it needs emptying!
I know that it is psychological, but when I am relaxed and watching a film at home, knowing that I can press pause anytime I feel like it is a wonderful relaxant...
But thats just me...
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It's been known for ages that The Hobbit movies are going to be a trilogy...
And on the subject of the first part thereof, it looks like IGN is the first to note it's already December 5th in Kirimati and Auckland :P
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/04/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-review
ETA: well actually there were a couple of reviews out before that even but the embargo was supposed to last until Dec 5 AFAIK... Anyhow, here's the most sensible review I've managed to read so far:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/hobbit-an-unexpected-journey/review/397416
Picture quality issues aside, it sounds a lot like the movie's going to have quite a bit of "bloat", which is a bad thing to be sure.
More here, as usual:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey/
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I quite liked the intermissions we had back in the days of olde. They heightened the enjoyment.
The intermission after the supporting feature was always best, even better when you got a short feature, a cartoon and a documentary.
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I have gone your route Mason and turned home into the cinema. Those big FO tellys these days mean you dont miss anything and being able to pause or even divide those new epics into a few sittings is a godsend.
This exactly. I rarely go to the theater anymore. I spend less to own the DVD and watch in the comfort of my own home.
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This exactly. I rarely go to the theater anymore. I spend less to own the DVD and watch in the comfort of my own home.
Been trying, unsuccessfully, for years now explaining this very fact to my mother each and every time she looks at my DVD collection and comments. Unless the movie is a "must see" in the theaters, which means i will be getting the DVD as well, i will wait and see it when it comes out then. :-)
Grimm
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From what I understand it's going to be split up like this.
Part one - The Journey to Mirkwood
Part Two - The White Council vs the Necromancer
Part Three - Journey to the Lonely Mountain, and the Battle of the Five Armies
I'm looking forward to part two. It doesn't appear in the story itself, I think it is alluded to in the Simarillion. We will have a epic throw down between Sauron in his guise as the Necromancer of Mirkwood, vs Gandalf, Saruman, Galadriel, Elrond, and Radagast.
I see....a three part adventure again. Well, i am definitely looking forward to it. But i will another 6 years before we will see the end of it. Ah well, times flies anyway.
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On the cinema stuff too many people are agreeing with me on here of late. Stop it! How am I ment to be a rugged individual blazing his own one man trail if you lot are like 'yeah we agree with Scurvo'?
I'll not agree with you on the movie thing. You got the big popcorn bucket and the super sized drink and you need to get up and use the restroom? You just admitted you have a big bucket and a huge cup! What kind of an over priviledged wuss needs to leave his seat to have a wizz??
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According to Swiss film website cineman, the film titles are as follows.
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (2013)
The Hobbit: There and Back Again (2014)
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According to Swiss film website cineman, the film titles are as follows.
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (2013)
The Hobbit: There and Back Again (2014)
Lovely! 8)
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I'll not agree with you on the movie thing. You got the big popcorn bucket and the super sized drink and you need to get up and use the restroom? You just admitted you have a big bucket and a huge cup! What kind of an over priviledged wuss needs to leave his seat to have a wizz??
My wife disagrees with you :D
That must be why the premier seats have headrests - to prevent "necksplash" from the bloke behind as he wrestles in the dark with a bucket of piss in a cramped seat :o
Remind me to take my brolly to the cinema next time.
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It is weird that this thread has gone full circle.
a bucket of piss
Most people were in agreement that the majority of the latest range were a bucket of piss and we seem to have returned to that point after a little meandering...
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Well I went to the store and bought some stuff. Some of it was Hobbit related.
I bought a $35 box of 18 of those cancer goblins (they looked good as a dying mutated morlock scrounger tribe for post apocalyptic stuff and they are all one piecers too boot!) and a $10 box of those 'cheap and easy starter' box of 40K chaos cultists ( who are now wasteland scum and have had a couple of the old grenadier future wars/EM4 gas mask scavenger figs by Copplestone join their ranks to bring them up to seven strong). They could probably pass for ghouls or D&D manes/dretches or whatever too.
This is a confusing time for me. I found reasonably priced GW stuff that I wanted!
The new warg riders look good too (way better than the old LOTR ones) but $40 for 6 of them is about five bucks too rough for me and it's just three sprues twice to mix and match. I dunno. Maybe I could go for it later.
The Hunter orcs looks good but $35 for 12 is $10 rougher than the current $25 for twelve they have on LOTR goblins and orcs. Overall they do not look like $3 apiece plastics to me and it's just one sprue with some arm swaps anyway.
I also got an army box of Mantic Orcs for 25% off on clearance so that's $55 for 10 boar riders, 30 ax troops and 20 great ax (which are just ax troops with different arms). To round that out, I got a set with a metal Orc leader on boar, a little murdery looking sneaky goblin, and an Orc banner man, and a box of 10 Morax (who are dual hand ax fighters with metal arms), and a metal 'orc warlord' on foot. I was very amused to learn that Matic's Warpath Marauder Orx and their Kings of War Orcs are all made with the same two bodies with different heads and arms. I wonder if the Dwarves and the forgefathers are the same way? Sheesh!