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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #45 on: 22 November 2012, 09:27:14 PM »
Yes, the prices are fucking atrocious and in a wargaming hobby context I think that fact should be articulated and discussed. So should their "interpretation".

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #46 on: 22 November 2012, 10:04:59 PM »
Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard? Apart from this, scuplting is pretty bad at least as for trolls and goblins.
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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #47 on: 23 November 2012, 12:37:50 AM »
Some of those minis look very nice. Some do not match up to either my imagination or the existing franchise imagery, maybe if the goblins were painted with less skin tones I might be more of a fan.

Like I said though it would be a question of costs for me, not GW bashing, it's just money is tight and they are expensive. I am looking forward to having a proper look at what else they have to release.

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #48 on: 23 November 2012, 08:47:47 AM »
Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard?

I'll admit to having a proper rant about that when I saw the pictures last Sunday.

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #49 on: 23 November 2012, 01:36:03 PM »
Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.

They are probably finecast...  ;)
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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #50 on: 23 November 2012, 02:08:26 PM »
Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.

I think it may be more down to the paint job as GW seem to do some weird paint jobs these days.

I don't think too much of the releases are finecast

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #51 on: 23 November 2012, 02:35:56 PM »
These don't match my interpretation of the books at all and I hope these sculpts aren't based too heavily on the new film or that could also be a massive disappointment!

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #52 on: 23 November 2012, 04:17:23 PM »
They'll be exactly from the films I'm afraid.

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #53 on: 23 November 2012, 06:43:11 PM »
The new orcs look quite a bit like the Falmer from Skyrim.

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #54 on: 23 November 2012, 06:50:56 PM »
Well, the interpretation definitely does not match my tastes. Dwarfs without beard? Apart from this, scuplting is pretty bad at least as for trolls and goblins.

Dwarves without beards?  I followed the last link (need to catch up on this thread in it's entirety) and I thought they all had beards, just short ones.  I can buy short beards for the younger dwarves for a variety of reasons...

I would like pictures I could zoom in on for a better look.

Price alone (not my well documented anti-GW "bigotry"/bias) will probably keep me from buying these.  That and size since all my dwarves pretty much scale in with the Der Kriegspieler ones from the 1970's and very early Ral Partha.  (except the smaller ones I use as a dwarven related race akin to underground fairies.)

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #55 on: 23 November 2012, 06:52:35 PM »
Hello !

Nobody has to buy this stuff.


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Very true and I probably won't.

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #56 on: 23 November 2012, 06:55:29 PM »
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Do you think its really necessary  to have another "I hate GW thread ?"
This Forum is full of those. 

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I believe it is appropriate to criticize where criticism is due. 

And criticizing GW is certainly akin to shooting fish in a barrel with their (IMO) predatory practices.

If you like them but them.  If not don't.  The line between freedom of expression and "hate" is in the eyes of the beholder in this case.

Gracias,

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #57 on: 23 November 2012, 07:04:25 PM »
They'll be exactly from the films I'm afraid.

And I can accept that for the films.

Not too close to my view but the Gospel according to Glenn isn't necessary for the movie/story.  I even accepted Bakshi Goblins for the animated film...

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #58 on: 23 November 2012, 07:40:09 PM »
Thos goblins look like plastic minis left over a burning candle. Just terrible. I have all the LOTR minis and although a few were a bit naff nothing like these.

They do nothing for me either, I'm afraid. I was pleased to hear the movie was going to attempt a new version of Goblin for the Misty Mountains, in particular because FotR's Moria Goblins had such a specific design aesthetic (shields made to resemble the Balrog's wings, big eyes for seeing in a dark etc), but these figures, painted as they are, leave me cold. On the other hand I still have plenty of the Rings plastic Goblins on sprue and will happily kitbash them :)

I am tempted by the Dwarves though...

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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Games Workshop
« Reply #59 on: 23 November 2012, 07:46:53 PM »
I believe it is appropriate to criticize where criticism is due. 

And criticizing GW is certainly akin to shooting fish in a barrel with their (IMO) predatory practices.

If you like them but them.  If not don't.  The line between freedom of expression and "hate" is in the eyes of the beholder in this case.

Gracias,

Glenn


Come on... That is the same as saying "If you don't like reading criticism towards GW, don't read it." Why should we not discuss poor wargaming marketing strategies and bad wargames theme interpretations? This is a wargames forum after all.

 

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