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Title: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 08 April 2013, 11:20:09 AM

Inspired by Silversixx's 2' x 2' table project, and having storage problems for larger size tables, what game rules of any genre are suitable for this size of surface?
I know of a couple (such as Pulp Alley, Confrontation), but would be interested in winding my horizons.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: robh on 08 April 2013, 11:29:24 AM

Eden (Taban), D&D Miniatures skirmish (WotC), Gloire (RatTrap) or Normandy Firefight if you use 20mm figures.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Remgain on 08 April 2013, 11:49:19 AM

Force on Force in 15mm.

Marco

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: TheBlackCrane on 08 April 2013, 12:00:24 PM

Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End

These are rules for small scale actions between 1519-1641, I heartily recommend them, lovely little system, plenty of scope for tweaking if you want to, easy to learn and play and they do keep a period feel, plus you don't need huge numbers of figures either. The pdf with rules, army lists etc is only £6 from Vexillia,and you can see sample pages too

http://www.vexillia.ltd.uk/common/shop_books.html#19

There's also a blog (which has some very nice posts on SoBH too!)

http://irregularwars.blogspot.co.uk/

Sorry if it sounds like an advert, I'm just very much in favour of the rules!  :D

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: ink the troll on 08 April 2013, 12:02:33 PM

GCT's Bushido, if memory serves me right (I don't game, but occasionally read some rules and sometimes even buy some): http://www.bushido-thegame.com/rules

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 08 April 2013, 12:53:16 PM

From our club's game list, AE: Bounty (when using space ship boarding scenarios), Infinity the Game (if using loads of terrain and preferably smallish forces of up to ca. 5 models per side) and MERCS. If you aren't allergic to board/map-based miniature games (AKA games using minis, variable board/maps and having no fixed campaign to follow), then also Dust Tactics and Sedition Wars. These are all scifi of course, well more or less.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Froggy the Great on 08 April 2013, 01:11:43 PM

The Rattrap games (.45 Adventure!, Fantastic Worlds, Gloire, Broadsword Adventure) are all designed for a 2x2 board.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 08 April 2013, 01:18:37 PM

Quote from: Froggy the Great on 08 April 2013, 01:11:43 PM

The Rattrap games (.45 Adventure!, Fantastic Worlds, Gloire, Broadsword Adventure) are all designed for a 2x2 board.

This ^

Quote from: ink the troll on 08 April 2013, 12:02:33 PM

GCT's Bushido, if memory serves me right (I don't game, but occasionally read some rules and sometimes even buy some): http://www.bushido-thegame.com/rules

And this ^
Were the reasons I built the board in the first place :)
Nice that I could inspire!

Forum member Henrix was actually the reason why I did the board. And his fantastic solution with 2x2 feet pre-framed painting cloths are even more awesome. I only got this pic (one of the Bushido battles I had during Gothcon against the "King of Puns"). Henrix has also done all the terrain, the corresponding thread can be found here. (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=43592.0)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af354/silversixx/CF884FB2-4342-4230-A35F-80F69DDB95AD-583-0000008B55892672_zps39beb12c.jpg)

I must confess that I'm also looking for more games suitable for 2x2 gaming. So far I've been a bit unimpressed by MERCS (and they say it's best at 2x3). So Eden might be the next thing (if it wasn't for the freakishly large miniatures).

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: krieghund on 08 April 2013, 02:16:30 PM

Most of the rules from Ganesha Games can be played on a 2x2 table as can THW
Larger than Life rules.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: CptJake on 08 April 2013, 02:26:32 PM

There are always HoTT and DBA...

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 08 April 2013, 09:42:59 PM

Good grief!
That's already more than I bargained for!
Thanks for the recommendations - VERY helpful, and hopefully will not turn out to be too expensive to investigate diligently and try out. I had forgotten to list 0.45; most of the others are new to me.
Silversixx - yes, that thread of yours got me thinking. I do have a larger table, about 7'x4', but that lives in our cellar, which is very damp, and is composed entirely of stone or ceramic parts and scenery to survive in the damp. No way a grassy terrain of any sort would do that; ditto wood. So thanks for the inspiration.
Scurv - I read that 18'x24'   :o first time round and almost fainted ! 18"x24" is just right.  :D

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 06:10:51 AM

The list so far - the  ??? smiley represents details to be added when I have time to research - unless anyone wants to fill these in...

The list includes name of game, scale (I am aware other scales could be used for some of these; and I have slapped a generic 28mm for 25-32mm scale), genre or theme. Any corrections welcome. Will create a clearer list once details are filled in.

Pulp Alley 28mm pulp
0.45 Adventure 28mm pulp
Confrontation 28mm fantasy
Eden  ??? fantasy
D&D Skirmish  ???  ???      
Gloire   28mm swashbuckler
Normandy Firefight 20mm WWII
Force on Force 15mm  ???   
Conflict at the World's End 28mm 1519-1641
Bushido 28mm fantasy, Japanese theme
AE: Bounty ??? sci fi
Infinity 28mm sci fi
MERCS  ??? sci fi
DUST tactics 28mm WWWII
Sedition Wars 28mm sci fi
Fantastic Worlds  ???  ???
Broadsword Adventure  ???  ???
Larger than life  ???  ???
Ganesha titles  ???  ???  ???
HoTT  ???  ???
DBA 28mm historical
Scurv's WIP game    28mm future sports   

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 06:29:49 AM

Quote from: Scurv on 09 April 2013, 06:20:28 AM

mine is 28mm

Amended - and it's trange aeons, seeing cultists are mentioned?

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 09 April 2013, 06:50:02 AM

Quote from: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 06:10:51 AM

The list includes name of game, scale (I am aware other scales could be used for some of these; and I have slapped a generic 28mm for 25-32mm scale), genre or theme. Any corrections welcome

All games I mentioned are nominally 28mm but as we all know, it tends to "bleed" towards 32mm these days. Official MERCS minis are the biggest of the lot IIRC, definitely more @ 32mm than at "true" 28mm. This last also applies to Eden.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 07:11:52 AM

Quote from: Scurv on 09 April 2013, 06:56:51 AM

This one is future sports the next one will be culties and demons

OK, will amend.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Silent Invader on 09 April 2013, 09:16:44 AM

Mine... "Scavenge Skirmish Survive".... 28mm winter post apoc can also be played on a 2by2.

Rules are free. Can start with say six minis a side.  Can grow to be played on a bigger table with more minis and more players if space becomes available.

 :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 09 April 2013, 09:22:26 AM

We should really start a LAF society purely focused on games that can be played on 2x2 tables :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 09 April 2013, 09:27:35 AM

Quote from: tnjrp on 09 April 2013, 06:50:02 AM

[32mm] also applies to Eden

...which is more @ post apoc instead of (regular) fantasy BTW.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Za Zjurman on 09 April 2013, 11:09:36 AM

Old West: Fist Full of Lead. I play it all the time on a 2x2 table. A game lasts for about 1 hour.
Real fun

Regards,
Za

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: TheBlackCrane on 09 April 2013, 11:22:08 AM

Quote from: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 06:10:51 AM

The list so far - the  ??? smiley represents details to be added when I have time to research - unless anyone wants to fill these in...

Conflict at the World's End 28mm 1519-1641

These are 15mm, and they're also known as Irregular Wars, although technically it's Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End.
Not that I want to be pedantic, but just to save any confusion  :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Agis on 09 April 2013, 02:31:04 PM

Victory Decision: http://www.wargamevault.com/product_info.php?products_id=91776 (http://www.wargamevault.com/product_info.php?products_id=91776)

The Advance scenarion is perfectly designed for 2x2 gaming in any scale from 6mm to 35mm...

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 09 April 2013, 07:39:43 PM

Updated List
Note 1 - which of the Ganesha Games should be included?
Note 2 - I am adding publishers and websites as well; or will do when I find some time.

Broadsword Adventure   28mm   fantasy Confrontation   28mm   fantasy D&D Skirmish   28mm   fantasy Hordes of the Things (HOTT)   6-28mm   fantasy Bushido   28mm   fantasy, Japanese theme DBA   15-28mm   historical Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End   15mm   historical 1519-1641 Fistful of Lead   28mm   Old West Scavenge,Skirmish,Survive   28mm   post-apocalyptic Eden   25-32mm   post-apocalyptic Machinas   28mm   post-apocalyptic car racing 0.45 Adventure   28mm   pulp Fantastic Worlds   28mm   pulp Larger than life   28mm   pulp Pulp Alley   28mm   pulp AE: Bounty   28mm   sci fi Infinity   28mm   sci fi MERCS   28mm   sci fi Sedition Wars   28mm   sci fi Scurv's WIP game   28mm   sports, future Gloire   28mm   swashbuckler Force on Force   15mm   WWII Normandy Firefight   20mm   WWII Victory Decision   6-35mm   WWII DUST tactics   28mm   WWWII Ganesha titles

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Faust23 on 09 April 2013, 09:02:10 PM

My ruleset Brink of Battle is suited for 2'x2' play of any historical period.  Also, any fictional genre as well.  

We found that board size controlled game length moreso than points did.  On a 2x2, you get to the fighting fast.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Wirelizard on 09 April 2013, 09:14:43 PM

Warhammer Historical's Western skirmish/gunfight game Legends of the Old West works nicely on 2x2.

I'd expect most of the Western-themed games would, but that's the only one I've played myself that hasn't already been mentioned.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 09 April 2013, 09:25:56 PM

Could the list be divided into "Can be adjusted for 2x2" and "Is played on 2x2"?
For example Song of... is best on 2x3, but playable on 2x2. And so on. It might narrow the list further. For in the end, most systems can be played on 2x2 if you just cut movement, ranges and sometimes, scale :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: sztrave on 10 April 2013, 01:55:38 PM

For the last few years I've been testing ancient rules that are suitable to play on 2'x2' using 15mm figures on WRG-type bases.  So far these ones work well.  As Silversixx points out, there are really two types - those designed for 2'x2', and those that play well on 2'x2', even if not designed for it.

Here is a link to the specific blog page with the links to the replays and reviews (rules I haven't reviewed tend to have pointers to reviews in the specific replay post):

http://shaun-wargaming-minis.blogspot.com.au/p/ancient-reviewsbattle-report-links.html (http://shaun-wargaming-minis.blogspot.com.au/p/ancient-reviewsbattle-report-links.html)

So far these ones work well and are designed for 2'x2':
Justified Ancients
HOTT
DBA
Antiquity

And these work (some better than others) and are not specifically designed for 2'x2':
Armati
Rally Round the King (and its predecessor Warrior Kings)
Fantasy Rules!TCE
Irregular Miniatures Ancient Rules
Mighty Armies Ancients (note Mighty Armies, the fantasy set, is designed for 2'x2')
DBM100 (and DBMM100)
War Ancients

And these I have not got around to yet, but are designed for 2'x2':
Ancients D6
Basic Fury
Phalanx (alienstar)
ABC (Arcane Battle Composer)

Note there are a likely 6mm rules for ww2 that work for as well if you convert inches to cm - I've used Take Cover!! with 6mm no problems.  But I haven't really looked.

-shaun.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 10 April 2013, 06:11:20 PM

Quote from: Silversixx on 09 April 2013, 09:25:56 PM

Could the list be divided into "Can be adjusted for 2x2" and "Is played on 2x2"?
For example Song of... is best on 2x3, but playable on 2x2. And so on. It might narrow the list further. For in the end, most systems can be played on 2x2 if you just cut movement, ranges and sometimes, scale :)

Ouch - I think I will need help with this....

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 10 April 2013, 06:50:34 PM

sztraxe - thanks, quite a list there, and nice blog too.
I like the map drawer idea.
If you could assist with the scales of the wargames you mentioned and which I am including in the list coming up soon I'd be much obliged - I followed some of the links and reviews, but could not identify all scale ranges.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 10 April 2013, 06:53:13 PM

Updated with more added.
 :) = designed for 2x2
 :? = not designed for 2x2
 ??? = unknown
The symbols I chose were clearer, but the 'list'function changed them.
I will update again with any changes requested and any additions. Help with the list of Ganesha games would be appreciated.
I am also adding a column marking rule sets which are free, and adding publishers and url.

Designed for 2x2   Name   Scale   Theme  :)   Mighty Armies   10-15mm   fantasy  :?   Fantasy Rules! TCE   10-28mm   fantasy  ???   Broadsword Adventure   28mm   fantasy  :)   Confrontation   28mm   fantasy  ???   D&D Skirmish   28mm   fantasy  :)   Hordes of the Things (HOTT)   6-28mm   fantasy  :)   Bushido   28mm   fantasy, Japanese theme  :)   Arcane Battle Composer   10-15mm   historical  :?   Armati II   10-15mm   historical  :?   Irregular Miniatures Ancient Rules   10-15mm   historical  :?   Mighty Armies Ancients    10-15mm   historical  :?   Rally Round the King    10-15mm   historical  :?   Warrior Kings   10-15mm   historical  :?   Wars Ancient   10mm   historical  :?   DBA   15-28mm   historical  :?   Justified Ancients   15mm   historical  :)   Antiquity   28mm   historical  :?   DBM100    6-54mm   historical  :?   DBMM100   6-54mm   historical  :)   Basic Fury   10mm   historical  :)   Phalanx   10mm   historical  :)   Ancients D6   6-28mm   historical  ???   Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End   15mm   historical 1519-1641  ???   Brink of Battle   28mm   historical/fantasy  ???   Fistful of Lead   28mm   Old West  :)   Legends of the Old West   28mm   Old West  ???   Scavenge,Skirmish,Survive   28mm   post-apocalyptic  ???   Eden   25-32mm   post-apocalyptic  ???   Machinas   28mm   post-apocalyptic car racing  :)   0.45 Adventure   28mm   pulp  ???   Fantastic Worlds   28mm   pulp  ???   Larger than life   28mm   pulp  :)   Pulp Alley   28mm   pulp  ???   AE: Bounty   28mm   sci fi  ???   Infinity   28mm   sci fi  ???   MERCS   28mm   sci fi  ???   Sedition Wars   28mm   sci fi  :)   Scurv's WIP game   28mm   sports, future  :)   Gloire   28mm   swashbuckler  ???   Force on Force   15mm   WWII  ???   Normandy Firefight   20mm   WWII  ???   Victory Decision   6-35mm   WWII  ???   DUST tactics   28mm   WWWII  ???   Ganesha titles

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Johan on 10 April 2013, 06:58:12 PM

we have succesfully used the following Ganesha games on small tables:

Song of Blades and Heroes for Fantasy/medieval
Song of Drums and Shakos for napoleonic
Flying Lead for WWII and Afghanistan

sometimes some of the add-ons have been used as well and we've even used them together like for the wolves in the Napoleonic era.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 10 April 2013, 07:32:10 PM

Eden is 2x2 while Confrontation (3.5) is 2x4.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Faust23 on 10 April 2013, 10:10:05 PM

Brink of Battle is designed for 2x2, 3x3, and 4x4 depending on point size and what you want to play on. 2x2 is actually my favorite for Period 1 Ancient/Medieval and Fantasy.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: robh on 11 April 2013, 12:31:42 AM

D&D (Dungeons & Dragons) skirmish works at various sizes depending on whether you want to play with Dungeon grids/maps or without.
  
With grids 2'x2' is a big table (will use D&D Miniatures handbook rules).

Without grids tables are 2'x2', 2'x4' or 4'x4' depending on the actual rules you choose. You can use the skirmish rules from the Miniatures handbook, D&D Battlesystem skirmish or the Chainmail rules. Covers skirmish battles in dungeons, caverns, buildings or open ground.

Normandy Firefight is written for 1/35th (54mm) figures on a 4'x4' table, so playing with 1/72 (20mm) figures the designed table size becomes 2'x2', or smaller if you want to go 15mm or 10mm skirmish.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 11 April 2013, 06:46:21 AM

AE: Bounty =  :? especially for planet side skirmishes
Dust Tactics = kinda :) but works better with at least 2 map sheets and IIRC they are something like 1.5x3' so it's more @ :?
Infinity the Game = :?
MERCS = like DT it's almost :) but IIRC 2x3' is the default area so :? really
Sedition Wars = is probably not really :) but should work with 4 boards just fine -- perhaps it should be :-I

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 11 April 2013, 07:18:20 AM

Quote from: tnjrp on 11 April 2013, 06:46:21 AM

AE: Bounty =  :? especially for planet side skirmishes
Dust Tactics = kinda :) but works better with at least 2 map sheets and IIRC they are something like 1.5x3' so it's more @ :?
Infinity the Game = :?
MERCS = like DT it's almost :) but IIRC 2x3' is the default area so :? really
Sedition Wars = is probably not really :) but should work with 4 boards just fine -- perhaps it should be :-I

Heh - my misreading of emails produces instances of disbelief which generally highlight the urgent need for more coffee.
I read the first line of this:
AE: Bounty =  :? especially for planet size skirmishes (spot the difference)
Now that would probably not qualify as 2' x 2'....  :o

Thanks all for the help - will try to apply the corrections this evening.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Silent Invader on 11 April 2013, 07:48:23 AM

Another not quite so simple answer....

Scavenge Skirmish Survive was designed for multiples of 2by2: 2by2, 4by2, 6by2, etc.  The bigger the board the more minis and/or the longer the game.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on 11 April 2013, 08:26:47 AM

Three of my 2 foot x 2 foot gaming boards.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E4Ft17VDj8s/SSqFGTi58KI/AAAAAAAABdc/hjRL6xw13JE/s320/Crashed+rocket+123.jpg)
The Crashed Rocketship (Flash Gordon)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_E4Ft17VDj8s/SYBDp4GnsFI/AAAAAAAABp8/Vx9mKBBfPrM/s320/Shrine+113.jpg)
The Amber Shrine

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_E4Ft17VDj8s/SOkFRueyLgI/AAAAAAAABVg/QnFcwvyRINY/s320/rock+king+001.jpg)
The Rock Kings Throne Room

Tony

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on 11 April 2013, 04:41:27 PM

I came across this gaming board and thought it was worth sharing.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cMbxkUuzwbU/UVmkBa6wSJI/AAAAAAAAGJU/pbu-s2Ak8d8/s1600/IMG_6932.JPG)

The game is Confrontation.

Tony

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Chilledenuff on 11 April 2013, 04:58:55 PM

Crooked Dice's games all work on 2x2 boards.  7tv is designed for 4x4 but will work easily on a 2x2.  7ombie TV and 7th Voyage both work a treat on 2x2

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 11 April 2013, 05:07:27 PM

Quote from: dampfpanzerwagon on 11 April 2013, 04:41:27 PM

I came across this gaming board and thought it was worth sharing.


The game is Confrontation.

Tony

Genius!  :o
Build up so you can maximise the space.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: robh on 11 April 2013, 11:30:20 PM

Quote from: dampfpanzerwagon on 11 April 2013, 04:41:27 PM

I came across this gaming board and thought it was worth sharing.
The game is Confrontation.
Tony

Beautiful gaming board. Judging by the characters assembled on/around it, it is from Cadwallon, the Confrontation RPG skirmish.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Faust23 on 12 April 2013, 04:32:53 AM

Here's a pic of our fantasy board for Brink of Battle.  It's a 4x4' board, but in two 2'x4' sections.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VzaHV0vmklE/UWSprJzbgfI/AAAAAAAACPc/KlH_Xm87uSw/s758/BoB%2BApril%2B623.jpg)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 05:26:20 AM

Good grief!
Now we need a catalogue of fantastic 2'x2' boards! They're all grand; but that red rocket ship is something special 8) 8) 8) Guess it's because it's an iconic view.

As for the list - will work on it in the weekend, work is getting in the way.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 12 April 2013, 06:33:15 AM

I think it may be a tower and not a rocket but all the same it's spiffy. Not something I'd like to use for my games (not too fond of really big buildings you can't -- presumably for this one -- enter) but still.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Faust23 on 12 April 2013, 06:33:47 AM

Quote from: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 05:26:20 AM

Good grief!
Now we need a catalogue of fantastic 2'x2' boards! They're all grand; but that red rocket ship is something special 8) 8) 8) Guess it's because it's an iconic view.

Those are the Floating Towers of Te-M'Karna!!!   lol

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 07:13:39 AM

Quote from: tnjrp on 12 April 2013, 06:33:15 AM

I think it may be a tower and not a rocket but all the same it's spiffy. Not something I'd like to use for my games (not too fond of really big buildings you can't -- presumably for this one -- enter) but still.

I meant the rocket ship in the set of 3 boards posted yesterday. All the boards shown here are grand, but that one was a set piece and is my favourite. I think...  :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 12 April 2013, 07:22:49 AM

Ah quite, I also thought you meant the red Floating Towers of Te-M'Karna.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 08:40:59 AM

Quote from: tnjrp on 12 April 2013, 07:22:49 AM

Ah quite, I also thought you meant the red Floating Towers of Te-M'Karna.

Incidentally - is that marble or faux-marble in the towers? Either way, it's impressive!  :o 8) 8)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Faust23 on 12 April 2013, 03:49:01 PM

Quote from: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 08:40:59 AM

Incidentally - is that marble or faux-marble in the towers? Either way, it's impressive!  :o 8) 8)

(In his nerdiest Wizard voice) It's STARMETAL! good Sir.   lol

Veins of it are throughout, which allows the towers to defy gravity.  At least that's the fluff text that will accompany pictures of it in our supplement.  :D

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 12 April 2013, 05:54:13 PM

Quote from: Faust23 on 12 April 2013, 03:49:01 PM

(In his nerdiest Wizard voice) It's STARMETAL! good Sir.   lol

Veins of it are throughout, which allows the towers to defy gravity.  At least that's the fluff text that will accompany pictures of it in our supplement.  :D

Oooh, now I see!  :o
It IS rather grand.  8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Estarriol on 13 April 2013, 07:21:23 PM

Matakishi's Crom!  should be 3x3 really, but no real difference with 2x2...

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Vanvlak on 14 April 2013, 07:23:54 AM

Revised table.
Had to remove the smilies for now as it ws getting pedantic applying them on the forum post screen.  :(
Games marked Y are designed for 2'x2' OR include this size as one of more usable sizes.
Games marked N were not designed for 2'x2' originally, but have been used or could be used for 2'x2'. Note that most games can be played on this size of board if scaled down in size!

Broadsword Adventure   28mm   fantasy N   Confrontation   28mm   fantasy N   Crom   28mm   fantasy Y   D&D Skirmish   28mm   fantasy N   Fantasy Rules! TCE   10-28mm   fantasy Y   Hordes of the Things (HOTT)   6-28mm   fantasy Y   Mighty Armies   10-15mm   fantasy Y   7TV   28mm   fantasy swashbuckler (TV) Y   Bushido   28mm   fantasy, Japanese theme Y   Antiquity   28mm   historical Y   Arcane Battle Composer   10-15mm   historical N   Armati II   10-15mm   historical Y   DBA   15-28mm   historical N   DBM100    6-54mm   historical    DBMM100   6-54mm   historical N   Irregular Miniatures Ancient Rules   10-15mm   historical Y   Justified Ancients   15mm   historical N   Mighty Armies Ancients    10-15mm   historical N   Rally Round the King    10-15mm   historical N   Warrior Kings   10-15mm   historical N   Wars Ancient   10mm   historical Y   Ancients D6   6-28mm   historical Y   Basic Fury   10mm   historical Y   Phalanx   10mm   historical    Irregular Wars: Conflict at the World's End   15mm   historical 1519-1641 Y   Brink of Battle   28mm   historical/fantasy    Song of Blades and Heroes   28mm   historical/fantasy    Song of Drums and Shakos    28mm   Napoleonic    Fistful of Lead   28mm   Old West Y   Legends of the Old West   28mm   Old West Y   Scavenge,Skirmish,Survive   28mm   post-apocalyptic Y   Eden   25-32mm   post-apocalyptic    Machinas   28mm   post-apocalyptic car racing Y   0.45 Adventure   28mm   pulp    Fantastic Worlds   28mm   pulp    Larger than life   28mm   pulp Y   Pulp Alley   28mm   pulp N   AE: Bounty   28mm   sci fi N   Infinity   28mm   sci fi N   MERCS   28mm   sci fi ~   Sedition Wars   28mm   sci fi Y   Scurv&Beefcake WIP game   28mm   sports, future Y   7th Voyage   28mm   spy/sci fi (TV) Y   Gloire   28mm   swashbuckler    Flying Lead    28mm   WWI/modern    Force on Force   15mm   WWII N   Normandy Firefight   10-54mm   WWII    Victory Decision   6-35mm   WWII N   DUST tactics   28mm   WWWII Y   ZombieTV   28mm   zombies

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: tnjrp on 15 April 2013, 07:48:18 AM

Quote from: Vanvlak on 14 April 2013, 07:23:54 AM

   Infinity   28mm   sci fi

An "N" is missing from this one.

Saw it demoed on 3x3' incidentally this weekend. It did need a fairly cramped board, even given the context (Infinity always needs a cramped board when compared to many other 28mm games) but I'm still confident 2x2' works too, outside of the faniboi fantasies where "The Game" works for everything and improves your sex life too :P

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Varangian on 15 April 2013, 04:05:37 PM

Smaller games of Malifaux would work on 2x2, though I don't know that it would be really fun (it's designed for a normal game to be on a 3x3).

Puppet Wars, a miniature-boardgame hybrid, works in a 2x2 space, and should be re-released in the next couple of months.

All Things Zombie (in 15mm) would work as well. I think just about anything from Two Hour Wargames would do well on a 2x2 while playing in 15mm.

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: VoodooInk on 16 April 2013, 12:41:55 AM

MAYHEM (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/110359/Mayhem)   ;)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: TheBlackCrane on 16 April 2013, 05:58:16 PM

Can confirm Irregular Wars are specifically designed for a 2'x2' playing area too, just checked my copy  :)

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on 04 May 2013, 09:56:16 PM

Freebooters Fate (Fantasy/Pirate rules from Freebooter Miniatures) can be played on tables of that size, but it should be packed with terrain features.
I think I played Necromunda on that size, but the towers and platforms where as high as the table long.
And One For All (generic swashbuckling rules from Eureka Miniatures) can be played on even smaller tables!

Title: Re: rules suitable for 2'x2' games tables
Post by: Hummster on 27 May 2013, 10:52:34 PM

Song of Blades and Heroes works fine on 2' x 2' in 15mm or smaller. The 28mm measuring sticks will make that a bit cramped with 3' x 3' though if you are happy to use the 15mm measuring sticks you can use a 2' x 2' table. The same applies to Flying Lead and Song of Arthur and Merlin which are their other titles that I know.