- Conan: Hyborian Quests is today 27 people working on the project: 8 sculptors (all worldly renowned), 5 artists (all worldly renowned, at least in the boargamers world), 14 designers (with some "known names" like Antoine Bauza, Ludovic Maublanc, Croc, Laurent Pouchain, Pascal Bernard, soon Bruno Cathala, and myself, along with some enlighted amateurs, gifted and passionate), the Bombyx brothers, 2 community managers and 1 product manager.
- Conan: Hyborian Quests is, in 6 months, almost 400 players who could try out the game in France, Germany (in Essen Spiel) and even Quebec.
- Conan: Hyborian Quests is is one of the biggest development budgets ever used for a board game in the sector history (3-4 times the development budget of Zombicide for instance, 5 times the budget of Adventurers or 20 times the budget of Asteroyds).
Ironically the iconic Conan image - even from the book art - is not correct, since most of the time in his stories he wore armour.
All artworks and miniatures will be based upon Robert Howard's descriptions. Nothing from imitators or corrupters of Howard's original works.
Cool. It would be good to see him in chainmail for a change instead of a skimpy pair of furry speedos.
Is that the one with the sculpt of Conan where his axe has somehow snagged on thin air and he's trying to drag it along behind him?
I agree, perhaps with abdominal muscles too prominent. But the sculpt has been made according to the artwork of Adrian Smith where Shevatas seems a bit muscular too :
I hope this doesn't upset, but 'The Complete Conan' is available on Kindle for 77p.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Conan-Robert-E-Howard-ebook/dp/B00HBVESRW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1402829999&sr=1-1&keywords=complete+conan
Well one of the things about Conan is that he never encounters a human who is stronger than him, although there are a few who are taller and bigger. He is also extremely fit, athletic and blessed with a great deal of endurance.
How does that translate into physique? It's a knotty one fer shewer and I'm glad I'm not the sculptor left with that dilemma. I do think too much imagery concentrates on turning the 'barbarians' into veiny balloon animals, but then it's also a tradition that is hard to break.
Being literally 'muscle bound' is not about being stronger and certainly not about being fitter or more agile. But then if a Conan model comes out without the muscles, what sort of reception will it receive?
I suspect this will be a case of not being able to please everyone. I'm sure they'll be great models and it will be a successful game.
The kickstarter opening is delayed to the first week of January 2015. But, and it is very important to underline it: there will be no delay on the release date. It will be at the latest GenCon 2015.
We could of course open the KS as soon as september, but then the miniatures would not be all sculpted, or worse, they wouldn't be as good as we want them to be. As we already wrote elsewhere, we want the best scuptors for this project. Well, it happens that some of these "top sculptors" will not be available before october for one and november and december for the others (they are already busy because of other major KS).
It is unthinkable for us to do without their talent and use instead less experimented artists. And, since we don't need funds to sculpt our miniatures, it seems to us completely useless to block for four more months the backers money.
Again, it is imperative for us that the players back us based on evidence and not on empty promises of quality. We are paying very expensively this quality, so we want our potential clients to be able to see it for themselves before they make their choice and thus before spending their first dollar.
The temptation to surf on the current "Conan" buzz was obviously strong, but we are still perduaded that taking our time to do things well is the key to the success of a project so ambitious. I imagine easily that some among you will be disappointed by this delay, but be aware that by doing so, it is our money and not yours, that we chose to block.
Conan is a game with an enormous cash-burn, and with this decision, we only postpone the moment in which we will get our money back. I assure you that it would have been much easier to take your money based on promises and keep it in our pockets 4 months before starting production. Even better, we could have used it to pay the game development without taking any risk. Some people here know how much this choice seemed easy and tempting. However the Bombyx brothers and me decided to set ourselves apart with an irreproachable conduct (as the kickstarter model leaves the door open to many types of scams which I imagine are most of the time unintentional) and it was thus decided to stay the course and distance ourselves from that choice.
One last thing : Since we have now three more months before us, I can guarantee you that there will be at least one campaign in the base game box.
Well this is good news for my bank balance and it also means Conan will probably my first KS of 2015 (and here's me trying to stop backing them).I know what you mean... I hope they do a mini only option. Don't really need another boardgame that won't get played.
We knew that a new Conan film would come out next year featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger, that's for sure! But what we didn't know is that it's going to be called "The Legend of Conan"... Since we didn't want any such issue, we wisely decided to change the name of our game.
Glad they decided on that. Hyborian Quests sounds better to me as well.
What was the last Conan movie like? Never watched it.
These are official sulpt projects :
Bêlit
Sculpted by Yannick Hennebo
Art by Adrian Smith
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0614/10345844_535301996574788_265934319881583767_n10a.jpg) (http://img1.imagilive.com/0614/BELIT.jpg)
Shevatas
Scuplted by Stéphane Simon
Art by Adrian Smith
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0614/DSCN84704cc.JPG) (http://img1.imagilive.com/0614/SHEVATASfd8.jpg)
Cary Nord would have been my artist of choice for the characters design.
Sculpts are great, designs not so much.
I think the Hyborian Age has a Bronze Age feeling, up to early Dark Ages depending on the culture. But mixing naked barbarians with Renaissance full armours is pretty silly (we already have Warhammer for that).
I can't help but feeling Adrian Smith is digging the old Marvel comics more than staying true to Howard.
I don't like the armour bits on Valeria, Zaporavo has stolen somehow a Spanish Conquistador armour, and the pseudo medieval Bossonian archer does not scream Hyborian Age to me either.
"The reasons behind the invention of the Hyborian Age were perhaps commercial: Howard had an intense love for history and historical dramas; however, at the same time, he recognized the difficulties and the time-consuming research needed in maintaining historical accuracy. By conceiving a timeless setting – a vanished age – and by carefully choosing names that resembled our history, Howard avoided the problem of historical anachronisms and the need for lengthy exposition.(Louinet, Patrice (2002), "Hyborian Genesis Part I", The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian, Del Rey Books)
Although it is not represented in Howard's library, nor alluded to in his papers and correspondence, Patrice Louinet has suggested that Howard's conception of the Hyborian Age may have been heavily influenced by Thomas Bulfinch's The Outline of Mythology (1913), which acted as a catalyst that enabled Howard to "coalesce into a coherent whole his literary aspirations and the strong physical, autobiographical elements underlying the creation of Conan."
"In my initial work I've removed all the non-howardian characters. The characters designed for the game were all imagined by Two-Gun Bob and appear in the novels. As game developers needed a necromancer name, I've looked for one in the first draft of “Hour of the Dragon” to find a real one.
Then for each of these named or anonymous characters (like "Bossonian archer"), I've sent to the illustrators a comprehensive description, that is to say * all * parts written of the hand of Howard describing this character. For more generic characters, and I'll use the example of the Bossonian archer, I've indicated towards which sources and visual inspirations to turn. In this case, as the basic inspiration of the novel came in part from “The White Company” by Conan Doyle, I've directed the illustrator towards NC Wyeth to obtain a visual result that meets my expectations.
By their size, figurines require some gimmicks (spears, necklaces, bracelets, helmets, etc.) to give them their own visual identity, which is not easy for 32mm miniatures. I have a reputation for being a “huge pain in the ass” purist (and I'm proud of it !) and I am very, very happy with everything I've seen so far (with one exception above 50 or more drawings and sculpture projects).
That's really the most approaching possible of the descriptions and the characters created by Howard, taking into account of the constraints imposed by the very nature of a boardgame".
I can imagine a warrior like this one existing in the same world as a viking-like warrior, but the tech level between a Renaissance warrior and Dark Ages one is so big that it makes me question the whole coherence of the world and puts me automatically in disbelief.
That said, I do admit is a matter of personal likings and I hope to see many more beautiful sculpts coming.
Even if you don't need to be R. E. Howard scholar to find out that Zingara has a strong Spanish influence, there is no link with the Renaissance Age as far as I know (I can be wrong).Actually the clothes and hand weapons of the Zingaran pirates in 'The treasure of Tranicos' / 'The Black Stranger' are *Late* Renaissance (though *without gunpowder*). Thus a Zingaran warrior with a Spanish Conquistador 'look' is consistent with such reference.
But mixing naked barbarians with Renaissance full armours is pretty silly (we already have Warhammer for that).
Thank you for your messages abdul666lw you've made better answers than those of whom I thought. It is undeniable that you are a connoisseur of Howard's work and his "Hyborian Age" creation. My English is not also good.(Blushing) I'm reading Conan novels since...well the late "60 (imports, first), Savage Sword & already 'collector' other Marvel comics since "75 and in the "77 - 85 we had a Tony Bath fashion 'Hyboria' wargame campaign (http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/titelblad_bath.htm) (I was a member of the Society of Ancients and in the good old days Tony's campaign was reported in 'Slingshot'; later I exchanged letters -mechanically type-written, can you believe that, youngsters!- with Phil 'WRG' Barker about the inaccuarcies of Carter-Bizar's 'Royal armies of the Hyborian Age'), so I've had plenty of time to think about the appearance of the various warrior types mentioned in Howard's works. To be old have advantages... ;)
About the game advancement:
The main rules are almost finished, now are left only small adjustments, and work on the scenarios.
In a short time the main rules should be finalized and the next playtests will be only on the scenarios.
About the art:
I love very much the work of Adrian Smith. Since this is a Kickstarter, we were able to use important financial means. All the money that we had (110000 euros) and that we could have used for the production we used for the development, which enabled us to hire the best artists and sculptors. Honestly, I think this game will be beautiful.
What I want for my part, is that the game systems be really good. For the rest, I trust entirely the artists. What Adrian Smith does is really the vision I wanted for Conan with that vintage look.
About the scenarios and the maps:
The scenario everyone knows is the one with the Picts. There is another I like in which Conan allies come to help him break free from jail. There's also the Zingarian swamp, in which Shevatas comes to gather everything he'll need (including some black lotus) in the Black Colossus novel. But my favorite so far is a map which is on the deck of a ship being boarded. This map will enable to play the pirate period of Conan, with Belit and N'Gora. We'll have 6 maps, 3 outdoors maps, and 3 indoors maps (and possibly more depending on the success of the ks).
About the kickstarter:
At first we thought we would start the kickstarter in September, but we are going to be late, since the work was delayed by some sculptors going in vacation during the summer. We'll wait until the 1st of January, because I don't want to have any unfinished miniature when we start. I want to be sure to be able to send the games to the customers after six months. The manufacturer will need 5 months and half between production and shipping, so I need everything to be ready. Since we are a new business we cannot afford for anything to go wrong. So we'll take the time we need, even if it is three more months. I want everything to be perfect. The day people order the game from us I want them to know exactly everything they'll get and also to know they'll get it at the announced time without any delay. This is very important for me.
No The Cid, and I'm sorry for you phobia but, as far as I know, figurines should be in plastic with the same quality of "Zombicide" boardgame. The aimed price of the base box should be between 100$ and 150$ with more than 100 figurines inside...
Oh, that sculptor list makes me drool :-*
The whole plastic debate is a bit silly. It's a french company, so there's a guarantee that the product will be awesome. And the rules a horrible mess ;)
If it's French it also means it'll only be on sale for a year before disappearing, so the KS is a must.But it will be a glorius thing to own, lex Confrontation, Asmodee Europe stuff and more! ;)
Oh, that sculptor list makes me drool :-*
The whole plastic debate is a bit silly. It's a french company, so there's a guarantee that the product will be awesome. And the rules a horrible mess ;)
The team behind this game is just a killer one. Rules have been playtested for months and all the gamers returns about are very good.....Scenarios are heavily playtested too at this time.I really think, and hope that it will be so! :)
This is not just an adventure, THIS IS GONNA BE HUGE !!!
Worldwide distribution and KS management will be done by the french society Asmodée : http://www.asmodee.com/ (http://www.asmodee.com/)
I'm liking all these different styles very much. That's what's great about Conan, so many different cultures with different styles.Very much nailed my thoughts there :)
So what's the deal...is this a board game or more of a self-contained miniatures game? I'm a little lost - with the use of maps etc. Boxed role-playing game? At first I believed it was a miniatures line...then a board game...now? lol
So what's the deal...is this a board game or more of a self-contained miniatures game? I'm a little lost - with the use of maps etc. Boxed role-playing game? At first I believed it was a miniatures line...then a board game...now? lolI believe that the correct definition is "Must buy" ;)
I believe that the correct definition is "Must buy" ;)
As told in my first post :"a scenario-based semi-cooperative asymmetric miniatures board game"....everything is in this definition.
3.8 cm = 1.5", or closer to 38mm.
I think that if the best Conan figures ever produced (because this is looking that way) are no good for wargaming, I don't blame people for being frustrated if these figures come heartbreaking close to almost being usable for wargaming.
To be honest I just think it's a lost opportunity on the part of the maker. The expense of having a raft of minis sculpted and cast, especially by some of the best sculptors in Europe is immense by wargaming company standards. Who wouldn't want to get as good a return on that investment as possible?
That is a great point. I don't think most board gamers would care whether the miniatures are a couple of millimeters smaller, but for tabletop gamers trying to shoehorn these into existing collections, 4-5mm can make a big difference in the visual appeal and cohesion.
Well, I cannot comment on the KS structure as it hasn't been finalized yet.
What I can say is that there is a lot of content planned, and of course a lot of great miniatures.
The main KS box will be by itself very full even if no stretch goal is reached, not only with miniatures but with a lot of game content.
And there is also a lot of content planned outside of that box, which will be either in stretch goals or in add-ons.
At this point I don't know what will be in stretch goals and what will be in add-ons. So I don't know what will be the price for someone who wants to get everything.
But you don't need to get everyting. Even of you don't buy any add-ons, and buy only the main KS box, you'll get a lot of value out of it.
What I can tell you about with much more certainty is about playtesting. Every scenario in the game is being thoroughly developped right now. And I mean every scenario, whether it is planned in the main box, or in additional content.
There is a lot of people working at this moment on the scenarii, some are renowned designers like Antoine Bauza or unknown ones like myself, and all will be finished and playtested before the KS starts.
Public playtests have been done in France for months, and more than 250 people already played the game, which enabled to refine the core mechanics on the first scenario.
Now public playtests will start to include the new heroes and new scenarii, which will add a lot of variety and replayability to the game.
So, yes, even though it may interest collectors or painters, it is primarily a board game.
And even though I know the produced version will be gorgeous, I enjoy it already very much right now, as a prototype made with paper and meeples.
Spiel 2014 in ESSEN :Does that mean that Asmodee will help out with production to some extent, and most importan, making sure to get the right printers and logistics? :)
Conan : Hyborian Quests will be in the main Asmodee area : Hall 3, Booth B108. Go try the game !
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1014/10311020_589815187790135_1856018251109894095_n.jpg)
I'll attend the Essen show tomorrow and will check any miniatures they have there concerning size and material. From the picture I'd say it looks like bendy plastic ...Do let us know Admiral! I think a lot of us will appreciate it if you're out there with a little ruler.
Yeah, some personal info would be great...maybe toss a common miniature into your pocket so you can compare. lol
So, just back from the show and yes, I found the game. It was in the middle of the large Asmodee-booth and could be easily overseen, just a single table with a demo-game going on using unpainted prototype-miniatures. Here areFantastic news, I'm in again! :)
But on to the good news: I talked to a very nice guy from the company and he confirmed that the miniatures will be manufactured in HARD plastic! And they are scaled with the wargames market clearly in focus, with 32 mm for a generic human. I had a standard Grenadier barbarian figure with me and compared it to a human miniature from the game - no problem at all! Couldn't get a picture as I told you about the circumstances and I didn't want to disturb the onging game too much.
The company guy told me that there will be official comparison pictures with most of the current miniature ranges soon, at least before the kickstarter will be launched. And he handed me his card, so I will contact him in some days when he will be back from the show to get some more pics from the game to be published here ...
So in my eyes the two main problems about material and size could be clarified, and I'm looking forward to the upcoming kickstarter ... :P
So, just back from the show and yes, I found the game. It was in the middle of the large Asmodee-booth and could be easily overseen, just a single table with a demo-game going on using unpainted prototype-miniatures. Here are two pics, sorry for the bad quality but it was so crowded and dimly lighted my phone's camera was overchallenged ...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/93_17_10_14_7_48_42_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/93_17_10_14_7_48_42_0.jpg)
But on to the good news: I talked to a very nice guy from the company and he confirmed that the miniatures will be manufactured in HARD plastic! And they are scaled with the wargames market clearly in focus, with 32 mm for a generic human. I had a standard Grenadier barbarian figure with me and compared it to a human miniature from the game - no problem at all! Couldn't get a picture as I told you about the circumstances and I didn't want to disturb the onging game too much.
The company guy told me that there will be official comparison pictures with most of the current miniature ranges soon, at least before the kickstarter will be launched. And he handed me his card, so I will contact him in some days when he will be back from the show to get some more pics from the game to be published here ...
So in my eyes the two main problems about material and size could be clarified, and I'm looking forward to the upcoming kickstarter ... :P
Thx for the report Admiral.I'm happy for the news. And I believe the small scale fuzz was a question of lingo mix-up :)
So things are going the way they were announced by Monolith (and as written in the 1st post of this thread) : 32mm scale and hard plastic miniatures with the same quality of the Zombicide boardagme miniatures.
Seems like an undead warrior shows his back...
Well, you can't copyright mechanics so good luck to them. I'll be interested to see how they handle missile fire. I'll look at the video later when I have some time.
I'm pretty sure you can patent them though.
What I mean is, if characters are given a move bonus or an attack bonus, then they'll use them and they'll be looking for ways to use them most of the time. It dictates what they do during a game. Of course they can choose not to use them but then they're limiting themselves because those benefits have been factored in to the balance (you'd hope) of the characters. So there isn't an alternate 'good' way to do things for those characters, they either follow their pre-determined archetype or they loose out in the points/actions balance. Choosing a path through a scenario that differs from their given 'strengths' is a losing gambit.
Give every character the option, decided by their player, of what to do and then make it possible to assign resources to those actions independent of any 'edges' and the characters can choose their own tactics and play style. Conan can sneak a long way and maybe avoid combat if he wants, Subutai can attack full-on. So long as Subutai allocates enough to the attack he can succeed. The point is there is no penalty for going against type, no 'bonuses' are lost by not using them because they weren't there in the first place.
The single most common criticism of CROM I receive is that all the characters are the same. There usually follows a length list of suggested improvements centering around different weapons, armour and special abilities. People who do this haven't played the game with other people (or at all) because if they had they'd have seen how different each character is because they're not a list of perks but instead 'enablers' (hideous word) for the players to interact with the scenario. And every player does that differently. I've played many, many games of CROM and no scenario ever plays out the same. Every character does unexpected things and behaves differently. This is because the players have control of the game, not the other way around.
I hope that clarifies it a little. I don't want to get into this here as it's a derailment of the topic but feel free to message me or start another topic on this, I can waffle on for days about it :D
It's not worth the bother. And as far as I know it's never been successfully done.:) didn't say it was worth it, just that you could do it.
The game in itself looked like a prototype but very advanced. The map (Pict camp) was gorgeous, the figurines were beautiful, the drawings of the characters were great also. You could see it was a prototype by the back of the cards, aid cards and things like that.
All 4 of the testers were completly new to the game, and only I had literary knowledge of Conan.
The explanations took around 10 minutes as we were introduced to original mechanics, quite a short time for this kind of game.
We played Valeria, Shevatas and Conan (of course!^^) trying to save the king's beautiful daughter (sorry can't remember their names) from the picts.
Our characters have 10 energy (11 conan) which they will use, during their turn, for various actions like movement (you have a free base movement value between 2 and 4), melee attack, range attack, lock-pick chest/traps. You will also need energy to reroll your dice (when you want) or to defend agains attacks during the "Overlord's" turn. As you only regain 2 energies at the start of your turn you have to be very careful when spending. You can also decide to take a breath (no actions) and regain 5 energies instead of 2.
We can also have encumberment issues with too many heavy equipments which slows you down or prohibits you from certain actions (no swimming with those 4 swords and 2 armors...).
Each character has unique equipment and a unique set of skills. Conan can tear down wooden walls and when doing a lot of damage transfers it to another target if the first is killed, etc, etc... Shevatas is a gifted lock-picker, cannot be surrounded and has natural armor. Valeria not quite sure except she had attack/defense powers : ah yes she can handle 2 weapons for attack and/or defense.
There are 3 types of dice : yellow (least powerful), orange and red (most powerful). All 3 characters do not use the same type of dice depending on the action : Conan has red dice for attack but yellow for lock-picking, opposite of Shevatas for example.
During our adventure we can find new equipment in the various chests if we opened them.
On his side the Overlord has 7 different enemy tile +1 event tile on a board. He also has 10 energies but regains 5 at the start of his turn.
All the enemy tiles are laid in front of him in a predetermined order. The one on the left cost 1 energy to active ALL figurines of that family and the one on the right 8 energies! The enemy figurines have movement, attack, armor (armor is a fixed number, defense is a die roll), hit points and powers (if needed).
He cannot activate more than 2 enemy families per turn. each time he actives a family he takes it's tile and puts it completely on the right, sliding the others.
The Overlord can of course add energy to move more, for a stronger attack, to reroll, and to defend when the heroes attacks.
So each the heroes and the Overlord have to manage/optimize their energy. Another team we saw spent all their energy if their first turn... Let's say they did not find the game very enjoyable...
Love the game! The atmosphere, the look, the mechanics...
Love the ways to manage the energy for both heroes and Overlords, the dice chucking the equipment, player powers, the overall simplicity (compared to other games of the same genre) and quickness : 90 minutes all in all at the Essen fair, rules explanations included! So probably 60 minutes next time.
I am sad to hear that p1 Conan will not be the mini.... He looks great. Do you know if this will ever be released?
No, i don't think so.
This Conan miniature project is now abandoned because it's property of the 1st publisher (Space Cowboys) that was working on the game development at it's early start with Fred Henry (game designer). The publisher is now Monolith especially created for this game between Fred Henry and the french studio Bombyx.
Here's a small teasing of the first official Conan sculpture for this game :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1014/10694490_594974333940887_2352731847417821344_o.jpg)
- Conan: Hyborian Quests is today 27 people working on the project: 8 sculptors (all worldly renowned), 5 artists (all worldly renowned, at least in the boargamers world), 14 designers (with some "known names" like Antoine Bauza, Ludovic Maublanc, Croc, Laurent Pouchain, Pascal Bernard, soon Bruno Cathala, and myself, along with some enlighted amateurs, gifted and passionate), the Bombyx brothers, 2 community managers and 1 product manager.
- Conan: Hyborian Quests is, in 6 months, almost 400 players who could try out the game in France, Germany (in Essen Spiel) and even Quebec.
- Conan: Hyborian Quests is is one of the biggest development budgets ever used for a board game in the sector history (3-4 times the development budget of Zombicide for instance, 5 times the budget of Adventurers or 20 times the budget of Asteroyds).
This thread is 16 pages long, I can't remember if you said there was going to be a minis only pledge level, but I sure hope so because I want that Conan!
A small reminder...
The list of illustrators :
Adrian Smith, Kekai Kotaki, Georges Cl4renko, Xavier Collette, Brom, Paolo Parente
The list of sculptors :
Yannick Hennebo, Stéphane Simon, Grégory Clavilier, Jacques-Aleandre Gillois, Stéphane N'Guyen, Thomas David, Mikh, Rafal Zelazo, Gaël Goumon, Thomas David (many ex-Rackham guys...).
BROM!!
That's all for the moment.
Actually, in regards to the KS packages. That sounds pretty reasonable. I'm really looking forward to it!
The aimed price of the base box should be between 100$ and 150$ with more than 100 figurines inside...
- Now, the possibly bad news. It seems that the initial stated goal to sell the base box with more than 100 miniatures at 100$ may not be reached. Nothing is decided yet, but the box as it was described till now, may have an higher price. There may still be a 100$ pledge, but it would be a lighter box.
I would be interested to know if they will be pre-assembled much like The Others miniatures as I take it they are being produced by the same factory.Monobloc for standard size (32 mm eyes) and pre-assembled like The Others miniatures with same hard plastic quality (yes same manufacturer).
I've got to agree with Fram here. Some of these miniatures are exceptional and will appeal to a lot of potential customers who have no interest in a boardgame (or not enough interest to spend that sort of money on it). I hope it's not an attempt to squeeze extra money out of people who simply don't want the full game, because that simply doesn't work.
Once again, I'm not a professional guys, I just try to relay informations but the minis are the most important expense items in the box (artwork, sculpture, quality manufacturing...). And if you can have a box with 250$ of material at a price of 130$ with the KS is it not a great news ?
Is it really such a hardship to get the game as well?
I think it's fairly unlikely that they will sell the miniatures without the board game, and I really wouldn't expect them to do it. I don't remember ever having seen a boardgame sold that way.
104 figures at even a small discount over "retail" are still going to cost you more than the KS price for the box set anyway.
I am sure we can arrange that someone gets the extra tat and sends the minis your way when the KS is on :)
So long as they don't mind parting with a Conan!Don't look at me. I won't get involved in any dealing of such kind!
Eithriall is at least right that it's worth contacting the campaign runners directly.
For some people $170 and $250 are equally unaffordable for a single board game. I understand the game has high development costs, but ignorning the high cost of entry seems foolishly optimistic. It seems like it would have been a smart move for them to offer a wider range of options - that would give greater returns, not lesser ones by opening up the project to far more customers which as of now are being cut out entirely.
The Cthulhu Wars game (late, via Kickstarter) has figures released as singles, through an arrangement with Fenris. If I'd known that was going to happen I really don't think I'd have backed the game.
Yeah, it was good advice so I left a message on their FB page.
There aren't a lot of game companies that deal in plastics that sell individuals because it's such a pain. They often find that it's just not worth the effort and expense.
What Fram said ... I don't want 104 figures, I don't want a board, I don't want a set of rules or a box. I probably want half a dozen of those models, tops, because I think they're really nice. I suspect a lot of miniature collectors will feel the same.
How are people not getting this?
Otherwise why not just make your point and let it go?
Great artwork!
We've often been asked to give a picture showing a comparative scale of our models with those of other brands. So here is, from left to right: a Helldorado miniature, Ron & Bones, Monolith, Rackham, Games Workshop and finally, Monolith.(http://img1.imagilive.com/1214/10864023_617527195018934_4521258918479517312_o.jpg)
Hmmm. Not a fan at all of Conan's pretend ab muscles. It really bothers me when sculptors screw up really easy muscle groups.
Hmmm. Not a fan at all of Conan's pretend ab muscles. It really bothers me when sculptors screw up really easy muscle groups.An expert in muscle gain by turning a wheel nowcare we?
A ruthless brute...
I have to say that the size of these figures will probably stop me from buying them regardless of how cool they may be. How tall is that giant fellow anyway? Must be close to 60mm tall?
An expert in muscle gain by turning a wheel nowcare we?
Yeah, looks like he's grown an extra set of obliques there!
A ruthless brute...
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1214/687474703a2f2f6d656469612d63616368652d616b302e70696e696d672e636f6d2f373336782f37622f36642f35652f3762.jpg)(http://img1.imagilive.com/1214/687474703a2f2f6d656469612d63616368652d6563302e70696e696d672e636f6d2f373336782f32662f36332f62652f3266.jpg)
there is a scale pic two pages back and I don't think they look anywhere near 40mm they look to be between 28 and 32
there is a scale pic two pages back and I don't think they look anywhere near 40mm they look to be between 28 and 32
The official game trailer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bZPdNDwPI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bZPdNDwPI)I hope the early birds aren't as useless as the recent ones in where you saved a full 3 dollars...
Conan on Kickstarter will launch on January 12th, at 1:00 p.m. on the East Coast of the United States (UTC -5), 10:00 a.m. on the West Coast (UTC -8), 6.00 p.m. in the UK (UTC +00) and thus 7:00 p.m. in France (UTC +1). There will be early birds, so check it out!
If it is done through Kickstarter - yes you can use PayPal.
@ luidinuovo
Some news about KS right here : https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/making-payments-easier-for-creators-and-backers?ref=HappeningNewsletterJan0615 (https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/making-payments-easier-for-creators-and-backers?ref=HappeningNewsletterJan0615)
And a nice sssssssnake !
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We planned to delivery in October. Gencon was our first idea but it is no reasonable and really too early.
So, 6 "pm".
How far is that in inches and how many leagues of gallons might one bring?
Bloody conservative wrong-doers >:(
1800 hours in UK, 1900 hours in Western Europe.I got that mate. I only wished to complain about the use of non-standarised measures, such as the 12 hour clock ;)
I got that mate. I only wished to complain about the use of non-standarised measures, such as the 12 hour clock ;)
what were they thinking ;DI always have high hopes with the French when it comes to measures. Hence my surprise, and to be honest, sheer disappointment...
Are they many KS with 15 minions figs, 1 hero fig and dices offered in stretch in less than 2 hours ?Eum, yes?
I was rather disappointed that when I logged in at campaign start (10am my time) most of the early bird pledges were already gone. It seems things opened a little earlier than the time indicated on the preview trailer. In the end it's only $10 so not a big problem, but still disappointing.
I checked in a few minutes before my lunch ended and it must have just started so I got an early bird deal. Not a huge Conan fan, and not sure I need that many multiples of the same sculpt for the baddies, but at least my foot is in the door for the time being. I am quite surprised at the amount pledged so far!
I am sure this has been dealt with elsewhere, but how do the copyrights for the 'Conan' franchise work with this game? Just don't want to see a repeat of the heroquest reboot...
I dig the look of of the minis, but I'm definitely in the "want single figures, not a package game" camp.
I'm quite chuffed with this, but I do hope they re-organize their bonuses and slow them down a bit. We're less than 24 hours into the Kickstarter and we're already at 35+ additional free minis with 29+ days to go.
I understand the minis might be a little cheaper than normal, but goals need to be set 100K or so apart, not 25K. I doubt there is anyway they can keep up with interest (I know the opening day or two are always biggest...but still).
Me too. So there's no chance that these will be offered in singles down the line? I would love to see a minis only type buy in.
Just to be devil's advocate, I wonder how many who have pledged for the game would decrease their pledge for just some miniatures if they were offered separately?
I guess if they price them at a more favourable margin it may not be that bad in the end though...
I understand the minis might be a little cheaper than normal, but goals need to be set 100K or so apart, not 25K
I can't see why they would be. I think this is likely to be a very open and shut case of ...."buy the boxed game". Maybe eventually supported by boxed expansions, but as a board game I just don't see it being supported by a random line of miniatures on the side.
I'd like to be proven wrong but can't think of other examples where this happens.
All the stuff is in the same quality than The Others and Dust Tactics.
Picture is not so good as I've seen the Conan Brom mini and it's very beautiful stuff...
I agree with the price of the Conan/Brom mini....perhaps the rights to use the picture are high ? I still don't know.
I know for example that it's impossible to have Conan minis from Frazetta's artworks as owners of the rights want 4.000 $ for it.
For me it looks like an anonymous barbarian warrior but not the iconic Conan. It's not only his gear but his body and muscles, too thick. Must say my favourite Conan has always been Barry Windsor Smith's though.Bah, old stuffy Conan at his peak as a bored emperor in his prime 60's. The funnier takes on the comic book license :)
I am wondering if the optional purchases will be available after the game is released or would I have to increase my pledge to take care of that.
Cheers
Dodge
If it's labeled KS Exclusive it won't be available outside of the campaign, conventions, or contests.
It looks like the rest will be available some time down the road, much like Zombicide's Artist Boxes.
+1
And an important link about KS FAQ : http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1302710/conan-board-games-and-ks-faq (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1302710/conan-board-games-and-ks-faq)
Is there a close up of the Princess sculpt? She and the two Belits are all I really want out of this set. I am hoping the last week brings some figures only deals.
Talking about her ?
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(http://img1.imagilive.com/0115/Image_Utilisateur_546b95a83e687.jpg)
Talking about her ?
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0814/10635864_568364819935172_1330423141807229470_n.jpg)
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0115/Image_Utilisateur_546b95a83e687.jpg)
Demons are in the base box.
Do you know what the demons are? I assume the demon with the wings is the one from Queen of the Black Coast, but not sure where the other one is from? I can't seem to find any close ups online.
I've had to explain the concept to SWMBO. She's even MORE dubious of this wargaming trick - now you're getting stuff months after you paid for it? Really? lol
Yes, Red Sonja is not a Howardian character, she was created by Roy Thomas and Barry Smith and she belongs to Marvel Entertainment.
Bah, just backed this. You get so many minis for the price, I couldn't pass it up.+1
its still growing...over 150 minis for $125
As I expected, the game is such a good deal miniatures-wise that all the whining about "being forced to buy the game" is a bit superfluous. The only legitimate complaint I can see is that you don't have the extra space in your closet for the box and game components! lol
Yeah, this really is a great project but I don't think I would get enough play out of it. There are so many great minis that would just be sitting in the box waiting for paint and I doubt I would ever get to them.And here I thought that was what it meant deep down inside to be a miniature game player. Make the "lead" pile bigger. :-)
There's absolutely the very real risk that this'll join the other big boxed games in the loft that I've never played.
But I must have the precious! lol
I love the sculpts (actually it's the number one reason I like this project) but the quality of the plastic concerns me.
Hahaha, as if you're in NEED of more board games Brax ;D. How many do you own by now, around 500? ;)
I really wonder how well the plastics will show off the detail.
I love the sculpts (actually it's the number one reason I like this project) but the quality of the plastic concerns me.
For those unfamiliar with the dust plastics, they're very bendy and can sometimes be soft on detail, but do take paint well.
It's a mixed bag I guess. I have some Dust figures I'm quite happy with. But a few are, well... the less said, the better.
It may come down to the mold or how fine the detail is to begin with. The shots in the Conan KS seem fine.
Well they just added more heroes and a Thaug at 200K (which is included in the King's Pledge). I think I'm going to ditch the King's Pledge, toss a few more bucks in and get the $90 version and add the new $50 Northern Expansion instead. I dunno, the King's Pledge is worth less and less with each passing bit.The only reason I want things pledge is for te undead. Otherwise I'd drop down too. I want that Northern one myself
Crowdfunding sites always use pledge managers - allowing you to add money after the fact (for additional add-ons or shipping etc.).
So...now where is that pledge manager? o_o
Nice finish! Now, if I change my mind down the road and decide I might actually have a use for this game, at least I know there will be 16000 or so people out there getting one, with a high likelihood that more than a few will have buyer's remorse and will be willing to sell it lol
Yeah, I could see that being me! I finally caved in and backed this KS. So, far the remorse part hasn't hit me.
I did the same thing with Zombicide, and sold it shortly after getting it.
I'm into this one too ( including Nordheim expansion set ). Figs look really promising en you get a lot of value for the money. Hope they will be able to deliver this year...
Despite the MASSIVE increase in the game’s content, we still expect delivery to take place in October. If there are any signs of this changing, we will not hesitate to let you know.
Some WIP :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0215/DSCN0810.jpg)
Have you guys checked out Blood Rage on Kickstarter as well?
Great looking minis, but why is that guy holding his axe backwards?
It might seem odd, but he has it in perfect position for a perfect strike as he stands. The hand at the bottom part of the handle will turn it around to rotate the blade and add even more power and motion to the blow.
If he held it the "right" way, his movement would be clumsy and way less efficient.
Try it for yourself at home with a somewhat long stick (no, not with an actual axe, you loony), and you'll see for yourself. The lower hand (generally, left hand) will hold the "handle" from the back, twisting your wrist
Have fun!
This weekend... ;);D Very exciting.
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This weekend... ;)
PLEDGE MANAGER UPDATE
We have decided to push the pledge manager back towards the middle/end of April. I know a lot of you are very eager to lock down your rewards or add to your pledge and we apologize for the delay but don’t worry, this will not affect the availability of any items.
This delay is due to the amount of effort that has gone into organizing the game’s pre-production. As such, this will not affect the estimated October shipping date. Most of the models have been finished and shipped to Asia for moulding, artwork and layouts are nearly complete, so things are looking very promising. We will already have begun production of the game by the time the Pledge manager ends, so we will just need to modify quantities as needed.
Our apologies again for the delay!
I like the sculpt for Gitara, I can't remember if she is part of the basic set or one of the add ons. I'm not crazy about the veil(?) she is holding though.Gitara is a SG, but the Earth Demon is a 10$ add-on.
I feel soo much remorse not getting on board with this...I beleive that you can pledge still :)
I feel soo much remorse not getting on board with this...
Sure looks like a pledge manager...
Starting to smell Prodos games all over this ks :/
I don't know what that means?The pledge manager (promised at the end of the kickstarter) is still very much not launched. Instead we're being fed wip's of sculpts. There is of course not an issue with the wip pics, but it's starting to look a bit smoke and mirrory.
Nice. But was an update posted to KS showing these? I don't recall getting the email...
No, directly from Viktor Dragosani...
Why not send updates?
You and me both...at this point I'm waiting on the following:
Hero Quest 25th
Dungeon Saga
Blood Rage
Conan
I'm going to have...way too many miniatures. lol
Ditto :)
Plus in my case Myth:Journeyman and a nice collection of twisting catacombs scenery (as if I won't have enough of that...)
In case you are at a certain point not anymore convinced that you are going to have...way too many miniatures, take a look at:
- Zombicide Medieval
- Darklight:Memento Mori
You and me both...at this point I'm waiting on the following:
Hero Quest 25th
Dungeon Saga
Blood Rage
Conan
I'm going to have...way too many miniatures. lol
Wow elbows. I'm waiting on those exact games too (plus other non "games" minis and a sci fi game)
Maybe we should have a special kickstarter addict logo added to our profiles :D
Maybe we should have a special kickstarter addict logo added to our profiles :D
LOL, yes and I thought of three more I'm in. All of them under $50 thankfully. Still Conan, Bloodrage and TTGG II are going to leave a mark. Anybody need a kidney?
Earth Demon painted by Martin Grandbarbe :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0615/11138502_10206407367407261_9204759007362896665_n.jpg)
The desert is filled with my people ; the demons of the earth shall do my bidding, as the reptiles of the earth obey me.
The good news aside, I’m afraid I’m going to have to announce something that a lot of you have feared for some time now. We are not going to be able to carry out delivery as promised in October. We tried our best despite everything to keep to it, but it is now clearly impossible for us.
First of all, and this is something I feel it’s important to admit even if for some, it may seem evident: this is our first project, your support and enthusiasm for the project blew us away, which is a goodthing! However, the sheer scale of the project totally blindsided us and it has been a learning experience ever since February.
The biggest setback was of course the Amazon situation. Due to the delay in receiving the money, we areway behind in the preproduction process. Still, we strived to move ahead and assembled enough money to produce the Book of Skelos, as you have seen, but the majority of the work is only just getting under way.
Due to this delay, we are also going to miss our predicted start date for manufacturing, pushing us back even further. That’s not all, however. As pleased as we were, and continue to be, with the result of the campaign, we originally only planned for around $1.5 million. This means we have a lot more to produce than expected and we’ve had to adjust our estimations because of it. All this extra time is now pushing Conan’s production schedule dangerously close to Christmas and the Chinese New Year that follows after, which, as anyone will tell you, is a very difficult period to get things done in.
Here's the gist of it: We are still hoping that, against all the odds, you guys will get Conan under your Xmas trees this year (ie. delivery date: December). However, as much as we intend to strive for it, it’s unlikely and we may well be looking at a delivery date during the first trimester of 2016.
Once again, I can only apologize for the frustration this causes, as I’m sure that, much like ourselves, you guys can’t wait to get your hands on the game. You can count on us to keep working hard at it and we’re doing all we can to speed things along. For example: Managing both the production and pledge manager with our current resources has been an uphill battle, so we have recently brought on another team member in order to help us push through this phase.
Thank you again for your understanding. Despite these setbacks, we still plan on producing one of the finest games to ever grace your tables, bear with us and we will not disappoint you.
The pledge manager still isn't out yet, right?Nope...
Any chance of seeing these in resin someday ?I don't think so...
I don't think so...
MONOLITH : I can now announce that we should be in a position to announce the Pledge Manager start date within the next 2 weeks.
I was going to say the opposite...not that he doesn't have skill, but that I really don't like the style in which he paints. The figures, however, look pretty darn good.
I think it's a very skillful style of painting - perhaps not to everyone's taste because it's got such a distinct 'flavour' to it - but superbly executed.+1
I think it's a very skillful style of painting - perhaps not to everyone's taste because it's got such a distinct 'flavour' to it - but superbly executed.
Overuse of white highlights just looks terrible to me as well. I know it's supposed to make things "pop", but when it's done too indiscriminately it lust looks like either everything's been worn down to white primer from handling, or everything's painted to look like it's being overlit from all sides by really harsh lights.
So the reward for us backers that have handed over their cash at the earliest possible moment is ..... that we started waiting earlier? We could simply have paid next weekend?
Hmmm. Am I being negative? Or is it just the heat...?
So the reward for us backers that have handed over their cash at the earliest possible moment is ..... that we started waiting earlier? We could simply have paid next weekend?
Hmmm. Am I being negative? Or is it just the heat...?
So the reward for us backers that have handed over their cash at the earliest possible moment is ..... that we started waiting earlier? We could simply have paid next weekend?
Hmmm. Am I being negative? Or is it just the heat...?
but it is still a bit odd that there is no benefit to have supported the kickstarter
I think it's a very skillful style of painting - perhaps not to everyone's taste because it's got such a distinct 'flavour' to it - but superbly executed.
So the reward for us backers that have handed over their cash at the earliest possible moment is ..... that we started waiting earlier? We could simply have paid next weekend?
Hmmm. Am I being negative? Or is it just the heat...?
There is no easy way to put this, but we are going to have to push back the Pledge manager until next month, the 20th to be precise. I know a lot of you were looking forward to locking in your orders, however we have, once again, been forced to compromise.
Why?
In order to ensure the best shipping deal for everyone, wherever they are in the world, we have been working out partnerships with different shipping and handling services. We have had an issue with those meant to handle Australia and Asia.
What does it mean?
It means we now have to find another partner and work out an agreement. We then have to take the prices given to us and program them into the pledge manager which then needs to be tested in order to ensure there are no errors. This is, sadly, a time consuming process. However, in the interest of fairness, we will not let our Asian and Australian backers down when it comes to ensuring the best prices for them.
I know I’m sounding like a broken record by now, but I can only apologize on behalf of Monolith and thank you again for your patience. As always, we will keep you informed of any further developments.
However…
All is not doom and gloom. The counterpart to this announcement is that this delay should not affect the final shipping dates. Despite the fact that the pledge manager is pushed back again, work continues behind the scenes with pre-production. The factory in China has already cast the master pieces for the moulds and we hope to have photos of these for you in the near future.
This is only a minor setback, albeit a frustrating one, for all parties concerned.
Once again, thank you for your understanding.
As long as I get to play Conan I really dont mind
Pledge Manager delayed to august the 20th :
Quote from Monolith :
Got the normal barbarian pledge. Had to pay another 35 dollars in shipping to Sweden. Feel a bit rip-off at the moment. Especially when I believe that the store price will be 15 dollars less than I payed...
I would completely understand that, if you would get no extras. However you get a lot of extra content that would cost you much more in stores. Probably selling that if your pledge arrives will easily compensate for the additional costs. Still its always annoying if cost are higher than expected.
Had to pay another 35 dollars in shipping to Sweden.
Just finished my shopping list in the PM. My purchase may be called mildly excessive lol
Shipping to the Netherlands about $35 for such a load seems actually quite reasonable .
Another dutchy that went all in?
but I did decide to grab the Frost Giants expansion...simply because.
Question - is there a deadline to pay by? I'm not adding anything, but I don't see why I need to pay shipping now when it's ~9 months out.
After reading the rules, I've come to the realisation that I've payed 125$ for a shitty game with some pretty graphics and miniatures.
The economic in me screams with rage.
After reading the rules, I've come to the realisation that I've payed 125$ for a shitty game with some pretty graphics and miniatures.
The economic in me screams with rage.
After reading the rules, I've come to the realisation that I've payed 125$ for a shitty game with some pretty graphics and miniatures.
I backed this for the minis and not the game itself.
A few clarifications:
1) I made up the 300+ figure as a placeholder for "so many that I no longer care nor can be bothered to count". The actual King level is probably more like 185 minis and 33 terrain bits, but I think you can actually exceed 300 with enough extras (which will be more than $135, though).
2) When I buy or fund a game with minis, I also care about both to some extent. However, the decision will be based on what I can see or estimate reliably enough. I wouldn't shell out $135 or even $20 for just rules which I haven't studied beforehand, but in this case it felt like a fair price for the minis alone. The team's faithfulness to Howard's canon also played a major role. Concerning the rules, the shown amount of playtesting and previews gave me a feeling that they wouldn't be utter crap. We tend to play this kind of games only occasionally with enough beer and bravado so even mediocre rules are acceptable. If they're actually good, it's a bonus.
In 2015 everyone should know that crowdfunding has its inherent share of gambling built in. I'd say this one is going pretty much as expected, including the mandatory update about a three month delay with the phrase "a huge learning experience". Everything on track.
It didn't state what the stretch goal bonuses were, which I found mildly annoying. I couldn,t remember what they were and wasn't going to take the time to look so I just left it at the basic level. Wasn't this game at GenCon?
I don't understand why some gencon dweeb gets a copy before the backers do.
This is how bad rumours start ;)Yeah, not wrong there. EVERYONE IGNORE MY COMMENT. lol
Well, it is a Kickstarter, not a shop. You'll have to pay up front. Or wait for retail.
I want to see pictures of the latest production figures, the only ones are the blurry ones on facebook and the quality on this looks petty soft.
Yes, I agree. The first thing that went through my mind when I saw them was is it too late to cancel?
I want to see pictures of the latest production figures, the only ones are the blurry ones on facebook and the quality on this looks petty soft.
We haven’t released ANY shots of production minis yes because *drumroll*…We don’t have any. I’m not sure what you think you saw but unless it came from me it probably wasn’t. It was possibly resin recasts we sent out to our painters. "
Then what are these?
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1014/81890320141014180528.jpg)
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1014/30719820141022162623.jpg)
They do look nice expect for the bottom two which look soft and lack detail, but I bet thats the photo at fault not the models. Still they dont look like the resins the artist got to paintI'd say it's the photo. You can see some of the veins on the big guy which I imagine will be very washed out in the plastics.
They do look nice expect for the bottom two which look soft and lack detail, but I bet thats the photo at fault not the models. Still they dont look like the resins the artist got to paint
I know, I read the description as soon as they showed the pic and ( later ) the model. But I still don't like the design. A matter of taste ;).
New 3D prints for molds :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0915/11248334_730528377052148_2000376059971544684_o.jpg)
This one's for Conan the Librarian, then?
I dearly hope the mass produced product looks that good.Me too...
My take on these games is simple...most of the new "super deluxe" style games you see for sale are frequently $80-90, sometimes more. So, if I spend $150-160 for a full blown KS...and everything shows up, and I don't think the minis are suitable for shared gaming - no loss. I still have a heck of a big board game with some nice figures. Now, if the figures are good enough for me to steal and use with my other fantasy figures - bonus.
I've bought into most of these simply for the miniatures, but with the realization that I may just be getting a board game. lol
Details look surprisingly sharp for plastics.
I'm okay with delays...as we've seen production materials and they look good. I'd rather get a good game late than a wrong game early. This is one of the better looking KS I've backed, so I'm still hopeful.No need to say more. You're right.
They're not cannons! They're ballistas. o_o
Actually the clothes and hand weapons of the Zingaran pirates in "The Black Stranger" novel are *Late* Renaissance (though *without gunpowder*). Thus a Zingaran warrior with a Spanish Conquistador 'look' is consistent with such reference.
The cultures described by Howard are not copycats of historical prototypes - Shem combines almost everything 'Middle Eastern' / 'Arab' / 'Muslim' from Assyria to 19th C. beduins, for instance. Zingara is 'Spanish' but no more homegeneous, time-frame wise. Meaning that miniatures would not be copycats of historical prototypes: for instance for Zingara a Spanish knight from the El Cid period *but with a morion (http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608000479842995896&pid=1.7)* (the iconic 'Spaniard' helmet in popular culture).
Nevertheless, the Hyborian Age in places seems more like 1500 A.D. if gunpowder hadn't been invented (Aquilonian Knights in full plate armor, something was was not invented until the end of the 14th century), and advanced ship designs like Galleons exist (although it's not clear if those have any artillery).
Eithriall : The bronze age feeling is only part of the entire "Hyborian Age" created by Howard....His wish was to write novels without the constraints of an historic world (just remember Robert Howard has written historic novels so he's knowing how it's difficult to be historically accurate). So, in the Conan's world coexist medieval lands (Aquilonia, Nemedia), vikings (Asgard and Vanaheim), ancient Greece (Corinthia), Hittite Empire (Koth), ancient Egypt (Stygia), Mesopotamia with Shem, pirates, etc....
Patrice Louinet : The reasons behind the invention of the Hyborian Age were perhaps commercial: Howard had an intense love for history and historical dramas; however, at the same time, he recognized the difficulties and the time-consuming research needed in maintaining historical accuracy. By conceiving a timeless setting – a vanished age – and by carefully choosing names that resembled our history, Howard avoided the problem of historical anachronisms and the need for lengthy exposition.
Sorcerers of Khitai are discribed as more powerful than western sorcerers, but no written trace of gunpowder in REH's works.
Arthadan, I think you're talking about Zaporavo. As he is a zingaran pirate, this spanish conqueror look fits him well. In "The Pool of the Black One" novel, you can read this :
"He was a tall man, tall as Conan, though of leaner build. Framed in his steel morion his face was dark, saturnine and hawklike, wherefore men called him the Hawk. His armor and garments were rich and ornate, after the fashion of a Zingaran grandee. His hand was never far from his sword hilt".
If you introduce heavy plate armour in Zingara, then every civilised western kingdom should have it.
Why a wealthy kingdom such Aquilonia would give its elite warriors an "inferior" armour? I know it's challenging but I'm sure there is a way to respect R.E.H. descriptions and make all the miniatures look as if they belong to the same world and period.
I understand what you mean, but REH has not created the Hyborian Age as an unique world and period ! As exemple, The Pictish wilderness has a border with Aquilonia...but the Picts from the Hyborian Age are living in the stone age !
The first novels of REH feel more bronze age or high Middel Ages....but as he developed Conan's world, he used more late Middle Ages vocabulary.
It's not a world frozen. A man with a plate armor can fight a pirate with clothes of 16th century or a viking from 9th century. That's how REH want this, no historical limit.
That said, I think Monolith has made a great job overall.+1 ;)
Yeah, the backlog is getting bigger and bigger on expected Kickstarters over here. I understand their reasons, no problem with that, but it might be wise that KS-people start to look for production centers outside China, since I don't see it getting better the next couple of years.
Maybe the Ukraine, the EU has to send loads and loads of money over there, so why not spend it on somehing useful lol .
Maybe the Ukraine, the EU has to send loads and loads of money over there, so why not spend it on somehing useful lol .
I am worried about reaching old aged before I get it
I am worried about reaching old aged before I get it
So photos are all very well and good but where does this leave us? Well, I’m happy to report that we are on track for the October delivery date!
We’ll be receiving more and more production samples in the coming weeks and we’ll be sure to share them with you as we receive them!
I'm quite looking forward to this. I picked it up for the minis...hope the game is actually good! lol
I gave up on the hiked shipping and did a post-funding slacker backer for a King and some KS only nick-nacks.
Uh wan muh picts. Uh wan muh hyenas. Uh wan muh skeleton mans. Uh wan'em.
Looks like Heavy Gear and Reaper are close to shipping their stuff too.
I'm quite looking forward to this. I picked it up for the minis...hope the game is actually good! lolTo be honest, it's the best game I've ever payed in this kind of games (Descent, Zombicide and Co, Imperial Assault, etc...)
Confirming address? What's this? Time to check my junk emails?
Phew! there it is.
We don't need to do anything if our address is correct, right?
I think this one is only a year late. The put the initial date at October last year IIRC. I never thought they would make that date though with the success it had.
Well my box hasn't turned up yet. lol
If it's anything like the production value of say Zombicide (produced in the same factory, etc.) it should blow Dungeon Saga to bits as far as quality goes.
With plastics the complaint that models are a blob without detail is often made. Sadly enough this is most often done by people who do not take the time to put primer or paint in the model. If they would have done this, they would notice a big difference. Especially with lighter plastics, as these are a bit more translucent, which makes it pretty hard to see any edges and gives the blob feeling.
2. My stretch goal box contained three counter frames, two in english and one in french. And when browsing through the scenario booklet, I realized that there were no counters for villagers.
So, put it on eBay and recoup 200% of your investment. It's really easy to flip a KS bundle for almost anything.
Yup. I really want the game still, but if the minis and rulebook aren't pleasing to my eye when I've had a good chance to examine them, then I'll sell it on. Copies on presale on Ebay are already fetching double what I paid. I think it's win-win: I'll either have an awesome game, or an easy profit.
Until people run across these kind of threads that are open and honest about the product.
Zombicide was decent so it is expensive to try and pick up exclusives now. Sedition Wars is the opposite, a short while ago the base version was less than £15 inc shipping on Amazon.
I also think that eventually, the up-selling will happen less. There are more and more KS's and there are more and more that are not producing the product to the standard people expected.
Not as good as metal, resin, plastic, or restic IMHO.
Now it is nearly here I have lots my interest in the game, now I couldnt care if it turns up, tomorrow, next week, next month. Sad state of affairs really.
Until people run across these kind of threads that are open and honest about the product.
Zombicide was decent so it is expensive to try and pick up exclusives now. Sedition Wars is the opposite, a short while ago the base version was less than £15 inc shipping on Amazon.
I also think that eventually, the up-selling will happen less. There are more and more KS's and there are more and more that are not producing the product to the standard people expected.
I have unpacked my Conan KS and really do not understand why everybody is whining about the white plastic minis. They look just fine to me and if you can't find a face on Belit or Valeria, it might be optometrics time......
I moaned to soon it would seem I just got a T&T number. I think...
Everything is in French but it seems to be en route.
Actually, for the Hero players the game already is a cooperative game. But you want to eliminate the Overlord role?
Right in the middle of unboxing my Kings Pledge and I'm pretty happy so far.
About the plastics, yes, there is a difference between the grey and the white plastics, and it's not only the colour ;).
The white plastic holds detail, it's more difficult to see but yes, it is there, but the nature of the plastics are different. E.g., the white feels a bit less sharp to the nails - check the bases - , more "smooth" and it's more prone to bending than the grey plastics. Problem with Zombicide Black Plague was that many swords & spears were bent, with Conan not so much, the greys are almost all perfectly straight - which is an amazing feat! - but the whites, thick and thin weapons can be bent. In addition to that, there is a difference in sharpness between the hand sculpted models and the digisculpted ones, and especially some the digisculpts who came out in white plastic are my least favorite. Vanir Valkyrie e.g., check the rounded bottoms of the robes and the thick sword, my least favorite model off all...
My advice to Monolith, don't use the white stuff anymore in Mythic Battles, instead use detailed bases - e.g. tiled ones - to show the difference between geroes & villains/monsters. And if you ask me, limit the amount of digisculpts, it's just not the quality of hand-sculpted ones and the difference is between a good and a great model ( imagine what the Bone Golem, Sabertooth or Man Ape would have looked liked were they hand-sculpted ).
And another thing, the models with cardboard small cards might be better off in a small box. cheaper for the Monolith guys, and more space to store the next Monolith ks ;)
But overall I'm very impressed what Monolith did make of it, with the Earth Demon best of the bunch so far. Value for money isn't only good, it's great.
Back to the unboxing and yes, I will go all-in with their upcoming Mythic Battles KS too, no doubt about it :).
Do they fit well with normal larger 25mm-28mm figures?
I must say I am tempted by Mythic battles in the strength of the finished Conan product.
I managed to find my photo bucket account details so I've got pictures of my first painted Conan models. I've not spent too much time on them (these five took me two hours to do) as I don't want to get bkgged down with all the models! Tabletop quality is the order if the day.
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Does anyone have some scale comparison pics? I'm still see-sawing between trying to sell it off on eBay, but with their absurd feeds and the shipping of an 18 lb. box it's not the best proposition.Miniatures are decent sized and fit well with 28mm + in my opinion. I plan to use them with my other Conan minis as well as with the boardgame itself. I really liked the boardgame and the need to plan both as Overlord and hero player.
I don't want to open the darn box to find all of the minis are 24mm, etc. Do they fit well with normal larger 25mm-28mm figures?
I think I'll crack it open. .
I popped open the boxes, and can mirror most of the thoughts here. Things which stand out:
1) Yes the white plastic is far less sharp than the grey plastic. It's not just a visual thing due to colour.
None of the female are as small as 20mm. Yes they are thin but not that short. I find pretty well scaled with each other.
The mummies are one of my favorites in the box.
Most of the hero figures seem fine to me with the exception of Balthus hound and Conans lion wich are soft in detail. They would have been better in the darker plastic though.
All in all I think it is good for a boardgame
Thanks man!You are quite right about that.
That's what I thought with the skills.
Thing is Zogar Sag has no spells in any scenario he appears, quite odd to have a spell-caster with no spells. That's why I think they're missed.
I went through my delivery and did a little bit of an un-boxing on my blog:
https://cruciumgiger.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/conan-by-monolith-games.html
Can I ask what colours you painted the skin, I always struggle with darl/tanned skin?
Except for the content of the Barbarian box, the rest (King content, Stretch Goals, Add-ons) contains components in both English and French. You can discard the language you don't need. When possible, we created tiles with different colors in French and English for those who want to use all the tiles in their home-made scenarios.- There are extra cards (blanks, or with only the title of the card). Again, this is extra cards for the creation of home-made scenarios.
ShipNaked sent me my e-mail so I should be getting my King Box + KS exclusive add ons on Friday via FedEx.
Good to hear - mine should also arrive a day earlier (on Friday). Weekend will be spent spreading it all on the bed, covering myself in oil and basking in it all.
Sterling Moose - Check the bases on a flat surface, I went through the whole lot last night - quiet a few are warped (self fixing that issue will be next to impossible).
Good advice from von Lucky:
I revisited the boxes and found 11 figures that I'm hoping will be replaced. A couple of poorly cast weapons and a bunch on warped bases so much so that two of them wont even stand up. One was the woman figure waving the cloak/blanket in the air - I don't even know who that is supposed to be. There's no pic on the KS page and no card that matches the pose in the box.
According to the Asmodee website, the game is supposed to hit retail today.Sigh. Oh well. I shan't begrudge those that didn't get in on this to get it off the ground.
I really want mine to arrive before the end of the current KS so I can decide whether to pledge or not!
A question, what paint are people priming their figures with?
Thanks for any replies.