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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Steam Flunky on August 11, 2015, 08:44:22 PM
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There probably will be a lot of Arthur on the tables in the next few years. Director Guy Ritchie is filming the first film of of a six film (Yes, I said SIX) series at the moment.
He is one of my favourite directors and has done some great films (Snatch, Sherloch Holmes with Robert Downey Jr, etc.) but after seeing the first pics it looks like he is determined to put it in the wrong century like most of the other versions.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3038578/Guy-Ritchie-Jude-Law-venture-Snowdonia-National-Park-film-Knights-Roundtable-King-Arthur.html
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I'd love an excuse to buy some of those Footsore and GB Arthurians.
He is one of my favourite directors and has done some great films (Snatch, Sherloch Holmes with Robert Downey Jr, etc.) but after seeing the first pics it looks like he is determined to put it in the wrong century like most of the other versions.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3038578/Guy-Ritchie-Jude-Law-venture-Snowdonia-National-Park-film-Knights-Roundtable-King-Arthur.html
The armour looks bizarre. He looks like he's wearing footballer's shin guards.
From the cast list (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3496992/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast), I see that well known man for all seasons of our age, David Beckham, has also landed a role... lol
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The armour looks bizarre. He looks like he's wearing footballer's shin guards.
Oh dear.....11th Century helmets :o :-[
Darrell.
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To keep things on topic, I've split discussion of the upcoming Guy Ritchie movie(s) out from the Arthurian 'Saga' supplement thread.
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First Knight anyone....Game of Thrones cash in - inspired armour and costume certainly, perhaps got at knock down prices! why not use Bernard Cornwells Arthurian Trilogy it would be a no brainer for a series of films >:( :-I
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Istm the Arthurian myth is one that has been retold so many times for so many different people and the truth behind it is so shrouded, that it could almost be set in any period, and probably the correct historical period is one of the least appealing (esp considering the god-awful King Arthur (2004)).
Personally, I prefer the knights in shining armour madness of stuff like Excalibur, for my Arthurian nonsense.
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Istm the Arthurian myth is one that has been retold so many times for so many different people and the truth behind it is so shrouded, that it could almost be set in any period, and probably the correct historical period is one of the least appealing (esp considering the god-awful King Arthur (2004)).
I think that the only thing that isn't appealing about the 'correct' historical period is that not one single film director has the ability to do the right thing with it. The premise of the 2004 movie was absolutely great...unfortunately, the final result was a complete mess.
I think this is a classic case of pandering to what is 'known'. Most ordinary people, if asked about King Arthur, will talk about armoured knights, the round table, etc, so that's 'safe ground' for a movie-maker. I still live in hope that the Cornwell series will be filmed...however we all know that even that would look 'wrong' (even in the book, a lot of it is potentially 'wrong' when describing military tactics and equipment, although it seems to not detract from the fact that it's a brilliant read...) as nobody seems to ever bother to research what late/post-Roman military gear looks like when doing films/programmes set in that era (e.g. look at the Roman gear in that 'Barbarians' series that was on History Channel a few years back... *shudder*)
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Because retelling the story has generally contemporised it, it's arguable that the most historically accurate Arthur we could do now is set it in the present (or perhaps the second world war, etc).
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Out of the topic but somehow related, Last Kingdom series from Bernard Cornwell is already being filmed as a tv series.
Hope is the last to die.
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Excalibur still trumps everything else. Bloody brilliant (mostly).
The Clive Owen 'we're all Sarmatians' (even Ray Winstone) movie was truly, dreadfully risible and awful in too many ways. But at least it had a scantily clad Keira Knightley, so not all bad.
Give me 'The Sword in The Stone' or 'Monty Python and The Holy Grail' out of preference any day ;)
Didn't I read here on LAF somewhere that some of the Cornwell Dark Ages novels were being adapted by someone into an HBO/AMC style high-end mini-series? (No doubt aimed at riding on the coat tails of Game of Thrones... )
Edit: Aha - yes, as just mentioned again by Rui, just before I posted this! :D
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From the pictures i´ve seen so far it will be another "Vikings" type series and equipment. o_o
Youtube has a preview of the series.
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I also like Excalibur !
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Agreed on all points! Love Excalibur, King Arthur w Clive was a stinker, Cornwell would be amazing... Anybody see that series Camelot, shown on Starz here in the US. Terrible! But Eva Green got naked frequently, so that was nice...
The complaints I had abt Troy are the same: you spent a shit-ton of money making costumes, so make the right ones, and you were 'inspired' by a story to make a film, so film the goddamn story, not some half-assed re-imagining!
Rant off, sorry! ::)
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Terrible! But Eva Green got naked frequently, so that was nice...
Oooh bugger, I missed that... ::)
I knew there was a reason I liked Starz series...
;)
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Oooh bugger, I missed that... ::)
I knew there was a reason I liked Starz series...
;)
Yep, you missed a treat there lol
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Why do I imagine someone calling Mordred a toilet?
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It wouldn't surprise me if Vinnie Jones pops up.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Vinnie Jones pops up.
A closer look at the cast list already has people playing 'Dan Clan Pikey' and 'Dan Clan Mafia', whatever they are, so I wouldn't be at all surprised.
One thing I did miss first time round is Eric Bana playing Uther... the curse of Troy may strike again...
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Why do I imagine someone calling Mordred a toilet?
Lance, you slag! I'm the king round 'ere.
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Gawd help us. :o
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Armour ala toys "r" us, probably with Dialog to match..
Guy Ritchie and Jude Law were spotted filming scenes for the upcoming blockbuster Knights of the Roundtable:
Bit presumptious?
The purple leather trousers and Combo..Tres Hipster Baby. That is supposed to be King arthur? wtf?
(http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hunnam-wales/charlie-hunnam-films-knights-of-the-roundtable-in-wales-01.jpg)
Any bets on one (or more) of the characters carrying thier sword(s) across thier back?
The plot summary sounds a squeal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Roundtable:_King_Arthur
The young Arthur runs the back passages of Londonium with his crew
he does what with the back passages of londonium!!?
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...and worse is to come...one of the directors of the Arthur film(s) is making a new Robin Hood film;
http://deadline.com/2015/03/robin-hood-movies-lionsgate-1201394844/
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Bit presumptious?
The purple leather trousers and Combo..Tres Hipster Baby.
lol
The plot summary sounds a squeal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Roundtable:_King_Arthurhe does what with the back passages of londonium!!?
That quote from the page made me laugh, but I think if I went to read it all, I'd start to cry.
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Dont worry the film will bomb at the box office and they wont make the other 5!!!
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Didn't I read here on LAF somewhere that some of the Cornwell Dark Ages novels were being adapted by someone into an HBO/AMC style high-end mini-series? (No doubt aimed at riding on the coat tails of Game of Thrones... )
Edit: Aha - yes, as just mentioned again by Rui, just before I posted this! :D
You are right: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4179452/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1
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Oh yes... Well it hasn't got a bad cast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Kingdom_(TV_series)
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Why do all modern movies about medieval (inspired) stories have to be "edgy", "gritty" or "re-imagined"?
The very words get my teeth on edge when I read them in an announcement or synopsis. Just for once I'd like to see a decently and respectfully researched movie with proper costumes, props and armour. Show people just how grand the middle ages could look. I'm getting a bit tired of the "dung ages" and "Vegas 1283" portrayals of history. :?
(Never mind me, crappy day at work so I have a case of the acute grumps... Point still stands though.)
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I dunno. Why were most of the 50's medieval movies melodramas with song and dance numbers?
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Yep, you missed a treat there lol
But if you're quick you can still catch here in her birthday suit in the worst film ever : the sequel to '300' :)
Admittedly she looks a lot nicer in Camelot.
Filming the Cornwell Warlord trilogy would be a godsend if they kept to the books.
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People, lets look at the positive side. 8)
There is always something interesting in these films/tv series to watch.
Either lovelly females (for the guys) and lovelly males (for the girls) and some crazy ideas for all the modellers and painters. :D
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People, lets look at the positive side. 8)
There is always something interesting in these films/tv series to watch.
Either lovelly females (for the guys) and lovelly males (for the girls) and some crazy ideas for all the modellers and painters. :D
Not to mention the fact that you get to run the back passages of Londinium with Charlie...
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Excalibur still trumps everything else. Bloody brilliant (mostly).
I absolutely agree. It was done with a creativity that is sorely lacking in most pseudo-historical movies today. Lots of blood and guts too which is always a bonus!
Darrell.
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Apparently, the plot of the second film will involve the Ultra baddie, "le hatchet" and his bulldog henchman, "le baptiste" hiring two totally inept scallies to retrieve excalibre. They then sell it on and when asked by "Le Baptiste" where it is say"what, the old scimitar!?"
"If you don't want to be counting the fingers you haven't got, I suggest you get that sword. Quick!!!"
(http://hairlossgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2-barry.jpg)
Then There´s a Dance Routine with the jseter playing the Music with King Arthur and "Le Hatchet" singing togehter, Jude law Dresses up in a rabbit costume before being excecuted.
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Apparently, the plot of the second film will involve the Ultra baddie, "le hatchet" and his bulldog henchman, "le baptiste" hiring two totally inept scallies to retrieve excalibre. They then sell it on and when asked by "Le Baptiste" where it is say"what, the old scimitar!?"
"If you don't want to be counting the fingers you haven't got, I suggest you get that sword. Quick!!!"
(http://hairlossgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2-barry.jpg)
Then There´s a Dance Routine with the jseter playing the Music with King Arthur and "Le Hatchet" singing togehter, Jude law Dresses up in a rabbit costume before being excecuted.
That might well be a vast improvement lol lol lol lol
Anwyay, a great post to wake up to lol lol lol
Darrell.
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If Ritchie brings in the knights that say NEE, he could be on a winner lol
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Just looking at the pics of those costumes I feel encouraged to avoid this film.
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Arthur running about Londinium with his 'crew?' A 'shadowy' Guinevere, no doubt another ninja babe leaving a trail of bodies in her wake, despite them being twice her size and wearing that completely useless movie/tv armour.
Like a previous poster said about Troy, stick to the bleedin' story which has been tried and tested for hundreds of years. No, I can't see anymore after the first.
Why do they pay an historical adviser or whatever the title is in these kinds of movies as they obviously do not listen.
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Why do they pay an historical adviser or whatever the title is in these kinds of movies as they obviously do not listen.
History doesn't sell movies... The (average) movie-going public seem to want Ninja Guineveres, CGI epic battles with implausible weaponry and tactics and elongated pointless chase scenes. Correct costumery and paying any attention to the 'story' be damned! ...Sigh... :?
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Oh yes... Well it hasn't got a bad cast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Kingdom_(TV_series)
Only just got around to reading the series...if the fighting´s half as bloodthirsty in the film Version as in the books..could be good.
A short Clip but it makes me want to watch ..if only to see the full shieldwall...(10 seconds) even though it does look like they´ve used repeated sections with a clever burning twig to hide the gap, to create a longer wall.. The White shield with a cross (which appears 3 times along the line)...all the shields around each White one are exactly the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-LUPGNXb78
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Hopeful for the Last Kingdom series...not so much for the Guy Ritchie film.
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History doesn't sell movies... The (average) movie-going public seem to want Ninja Guineveres, CGI epic battles with implausible weaponry and tactics and elongated pointless chase scenes. Correct costumery and paying any attention to the 'story' be damned! ...Sigh... :?
True..... though history does sell documentaries....
Usually of the sort on the Hitler Channel lol lol
Darrell.
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History doesn't sell movies... The (average) movie-going public seem to want Ninja Guineveres, CGI epic battles with implausible weaponry and tactics and elongated pointless chase scenes. Correct costumery and paying any attention to the 'story' be damned! ...Sigh... :?
Very true..and with some film going public it seems thier knowledge of accuracy is very skewed..they will know exactly how a Tolkien Hobbit or Marvel Avenger should look like but genuine History related stuff seems irrelevant.
Imagine the hoo ha if a Cap´n America film was made..and they portrayed him with a square shield!!!
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I hear* the origin of the TMNTurtles in the Michael Bay movie was changed from aliens back to mutated terrapins because pop-culture nerds made a hoo ha.
Mind you, palaeo nerds (including some professional ones) kicked up a right internet stink about the unrealistic moviey munstirs in Jurassic World, and that didn't make much difference. Probably because the pop-culture nerds kicking up a stink about the former movie were part of the target audience for both.
And for this one, too.
Not that I think that excuses it.
It just feels like Robin Hoodie (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m8g7) all over again. :(
* What, you expect me to have watched it?