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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: Westfalia Chris on December 17, 2008, 08:28:29 PM
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Hiya!
Got inspired by seeing the amazing Fallout 3 at my brother´s and embarked on a small project for it. My brother will assemble some wasteland people (EM-4 Scavengers), while I will do the evil Enclave. I´m still looking for suitable figures (Orc Troopers from Infinity look almost spot on concerning armour, but those guns...), but for starters what do we need? A Vertibird, of course. I didn´t have too many good images, so it differs somehow from the game item, but it looks good enough for me. Some Harkonnen Ornithopter influence in there as well.
Materials are plasticard, putty, two wood parts for the engine gondolae, some steel washers, and other small bits. The front ball will sport a machine cannon, and I´ll add some searchlights after painting the main piece. The rotors rotate, and the wings/gondola supports can be tilted as well, but I guess I´ll leave it in that configuration (hovering flight is most useful, methinks). Already got a flying base assembled (not shown). Now, off to painting! More tonight or tomorrow!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_WIP.jpg)
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Been playing Fallout 3 for the last few weeks, I have been thinking of a similar small projekt! What rules will you be using? I would (and already have on the Sweetwater-Forum) suggest the Mutants and Deathray Guns Rules.
Your Flyer looks awesome, can't wait to see it painted. Only the wheels seem a little small, maybe try some bigger ones or skids?
Please keep us updated on your Project 8)
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More, more!
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Been playing Fallout 3 for the last few weeks, I have been thinking of a similar small projekt! What rules will you be using? I would (and already have on the Sweetwater-Forum) suggest the Mutants and Deathray Guns Rules.
Seen that. I suggested using LOTOW, but I am currently torn between LOTOW and The Rules With No Name (Street Violence Edition) because they have damage zones on the various body parts - I think my brother (who´s been a Fallout Fanboy from day one of the franchise and an avid RPGer) will like that approach as well.
Your Flyer looks awesome, can't wait to see it painted. Only the wheels seem a little small, maybe try some bigger ones or skids?
The second one to say that! :D They are actually almost a centimeter in diameter. The original design has rather small ones, too, basically aircraft landing gear. The legs are removable, and I may still leave them off for now.
Please keep us updated on your Project 8)
Will do, good sir. Current state: Base coated the model in Vallejo Dark Rubber (a dark slighty greenish grey).
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Looks great so far - can we have a mini in the next photo for a sense of scale?
:)
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Been playing Fallout and Fallout tactics. Great games! Dont know if I support all this modern fandanglyness of a 3D environment. Still, loveley post apoc world to be sure!
Oh, great model too!
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Looks great so far - can we have a mini in the next photo for a sense of scale?
:)
Will do one tomorrow when I finish the flying base - until then, some shots of the painted bird.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_PAINTED_FRONT_Q.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_PAINTED_SIDE.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_ENGINE_HOOD_CLOSEUP.jpg)
I´ll varnish the model tomorrow (a matte finish, maybe a slight sheen), and take some better-lit pictures.
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That is a lovely model. If that I had your scratchbuilding talents/skills.
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I said it before.... :-*
Was the main body entirely scratched from plasticcard or based on something else?
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:o This looks so fucked-up, postapocalyptic and beautyfull. It's lovely
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I love it! Great job! I am currently playing Fallout 3 myself! lol
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Awesome Chris! :D
Although, I think you should leave the wheels on, even if they look a bit small. To me it just adds that final fallout touch. Keep up the great work!
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Great work, that's one lovely looking machine! :-*
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A great piece of work - well done!
:)
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sweeeet ride
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I said it before.... :-*
Was the main body entirely scratched from plasticcard or based on something else?
I used my now-usual method of building a "core" of balsa wood bulkheads and spars, then covering it in a sheet of thicker plasticard, sanding that a bit, then adding a second, more detailed layer of plasticard on that. The balsa is easier to work than pure plasticard, and is rather stable if well-glued.
I then used Revell modelling putty for the hood top (vicious stuff, but I had it lying around). Some steel washers make those very regular circular items (air intakes, sensor ball mounts).
I just finished a replacement for the gun, though - now I´ve got a neat little three-barrel assembly that looks better. Will paint it next along with the flying base. Pics this evening (CET).
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As promised, some more pics, including first work-in-progress shots of some infantry models.
Vertibird with Future Wars figure sculpted by Mark Copplestone:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_FINISHED_SIZE.jpg)
Including flying base:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VERTIBIRD_FLYING_BASE.jpg)
Rockers and a Mutant, plus a lone wanderer:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/ROCKERS_AND_SCUM.jpg)
Finally, Evil Fascist Government´s Henchmen(TM):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/ENCLAVE_NBC_TROOPERS.jpg)
All unfinished to various degrees. Obviously, the bases need finishing, and the rockers and NBC guys will receive a coat of varnish tomorrow.
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Very impressive, Chris, and your scratchbuilding talents are enviable!
Great work! :-*
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Great Work there, Chris!
Where did you get the Lonesome Wanderer Mini from? :-* He needs a dog!
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Great Work there, Chris!
Where did you get the Lonesome Wanderer Mini from? :-* He needs a dog!
A figure from the "Rebels" set, available from EM-4 miniatures.
http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/REBELS.html
Ex-Grenadier Future Warriors.
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:o :-* :o OOH !! :-*
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It needs a doggie to be complete tho :)
Ebob sells german shepards
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Dogmeat indeed! Nice vertibird, there is rather noticeable differences though ;D. Size-wise it's perfect otherwise. Can't wait to see more of your project!
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This might work for rules., really for Pen and paper, but the system should be easy to port for minis :)
http://nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=775
http://pnp.fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Ah nice to see Fallout stuff!
Really nice figures and good paintjobs. I think the EM4 ones get into every P.A. collection these days.. mine too! :D
I played a game of Wasteland Chronicles yesterday.. that's also Post Apocalyptic - I'll post pictures later.
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really well done stuff! What rules do you plan on using for your games?
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Once again stunning work Chris.
There are some minis rules for Fallout made by the fallout people.
They are on the 3 disk set that is going for @ $20aud at the moment.
Having glanced at them they dont seem too bad. (a passel of stats ala GW games for the figures but the rules seem quite streamlined)
Also come with lots of printable stand up counters that are awsome for front/back guides to get any conversions looking authentic. There is also a nice set of top down vehicle templates.
I'm sure you could also download em from somewhere long long ago that might still exist in some long forgotten corner of the interweb. If you cant find em on the web PM me if you are mad keen to have a look and I can email em to you. (very slowly)
Thanks, I got a Fallout Miniatures Wargame in PDF form (the rest of the downloads seemed to be paper miniatures, so I skipped on those) that looks rather nice. I guess I´ll try the various rules I´ve got lying around, presumably LOTOW for ease of play.
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the version I have is a straight miniatures game.
I have never heard of that, off to look for it then :
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very cool
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the version I have is a straight miniatures game.
I have never heard of that, off to look for it then :
Try here:
Click at your own risk: >>>http://fallout-rpg.narod.ru/Warfare.html
It´s a Russian site, so use at your own risk. My protective suite didn´t pick up anything, so it *should* be safe.
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Thanks, it was the first thing my google-fu found :D
already downloaded it :P
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I use these figures as Enclave powered armor troopers.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/slobberblood/1198715324slobberblood_untitled-14.jpg)
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Neat, what are they originally?
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Neat, what are they originally?
Warzone troops...
http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/bauhaus.html
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I use these figures as Enclave powered armor troopers.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/slobberblood/1198715324slobberblood_untitled-14.jpg)
Wow! That paintjob looks really neat on them! I never really liked the models though I have a squad of them as well.
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Hmm, the warzone figures really look like they could make for good Brotherhood of steel troops aswell :D
some weapon swaps here and there.... ::)
I never ever thought i'd really be interested in getting those plastics :D
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I use these figures as Enclave powered armor troopers.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/slobberblood/1198715324slobberblood_untitled-14.jpg)
Man, I´ve got a huge squad of those lying around! Never thought of using them that way! Will to a test paint to check it out.
Col. Stone, those are metal figures from the 1st edition days, not the plastics that abound so plentifully on the net.
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I figured they were metals, never had seen the wolfhead before.. i suppose they are horribly OOP aswell then :(
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I figured they were metals, never had seen the wolfhead before.. i suppose they are horribly OOP aswell then :(
Not at all! :)
You can find them here: http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/index_bauhaus.html
Look for the Dragoon (Wolfshead); they're still there. This also made me realize that there's actually quite a few of the Bauhaus figures who'd make excellent PA figures as well. There goes the christmas bonus :D
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thanks all..
I can't understand how i didn't see the potential in these figures before..
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I think they look great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9wRtl2k38
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Finished off some figures (okay, still need to add static grass, but you get the idea!) over the holidays.
Enclave troops, using Capitol assault marines to conceptualize the powered armours.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/ENCLAVE_TROOPS.jpg)
Characters:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/CHARACTERS.jpg)
Southern Bikers:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SOUTHERN_BIKERZ.jpg)
Concepts for BoS powered armours:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/POWER_ARMOUR_CONCEPTS.jpg)
Wasteland dwelling:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/MEGATON_DWELLING_01.jpg)
Undetonated Chinese nuke:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/CHINESE_NUKE.jpg)
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That nuke, is the body made from the "yoke" from a surprise egg? genius!
Very nice miniatures and terrain!
I hope you can show them off in battle report sometime?
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That nuke, is the body made from the "yoke" from a surprise egg? genius!
Yup - although it´s not the "brand name" Kinder stuff, but some cheap variant (which I bought at a gas station because they had Wall-E figures inside, hoping for a robot and getting a fat crewman). Was a lucky shot, because this variant of the plastic takes paint much better than the Kinder capsules. The fins are 1mm plasticard (thickness for stability).
Very nice miniatures and terrain!
I hope you can show them off in battle report sometime?
Hope to do so, too! I do have to finalise the rules to use first.
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That bomb is, actually, Da Bomb.
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That bomb is, actually, Da Bomb.
And the best thing is, the chinese ideograms, if the University of Munich online dictionary and my brush skills don´t let me down in a horrible, but ultimately hilarious way, read "yuánzǐdàn", which is Chinese for... Atomic Bomb! Take this, Ministry of Unimaginatively Named Items!
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I just got Fallout 3 for the PC last week - what an awesome game!! I've already started making some wasteland terrain myself :D I've been taking screen-shots of all kinds of interesting terrain as I travel through the game. I just need to get some minis to match. The old Warzone guys look are an almost perfect fit for power armor (I used to have a small Capitol force - I must have sold them...).
There's some great inspiration in this thread. Someone really needs to make a series of Fallout 3 minis!!
Has anyone seen the image maps for the in-game billboards? I want to print them out in order to make a miniature billboard.
Anyone know of good figs to use for Super Mutants?
Greg
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Anyone know of good figs to use for Super Mutants?
Hasslefree Drussch/Jotun models - massive with miniguns etc
:)
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Hmmm, hearing all you folks, I just may have to give in to Fallout 3 too...
Yup - although it´s not the "brand name" Kinder stuff, but some cheap variant (which I bought at a gas station because they had Wall-E figures inside, hoping for a robot and getting a fat crewman). Was a lucky shot, because this variant of the plastic takes paint much better than the Kinder capsules. The fins are 1mm plasticard (thickness for stability).
Nice. The "official" Kinder capsules are crap these days anyway, single part castings, with some sort of tear-away strip connecting the two halves... Not barely as usefull as they used to be. I guess my son will be getting some treats come next shopping trip... ;)
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You definitely should get Fallout 3
Plusses:
Great game
Lots of ideas for a Post-Apoc game
Minuses:
You'll spend ages playing it, when you could be painting minis....
;)
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Check out this guys Fallout scenery:
http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/gallery/gallery.php?album=110&uploadedby=&keyword=&sort=0&start=12
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You'll spend ages playing it, when you could be painting minis....
Ain't that the truth.
If anyone sees a 28mm figure of a young African-American girl with a shaved head and wearing a pink nightie and Abraham Lincoln's hat, while toting a rather tatty-looking hunting rifle do tell me: That's what I need to represent my own Vault 101 Dweller on the tabletop. :)
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... a young African-American girl with a shaved head and wearing a pink nightie and Abraham Lincoln's hat, while toting a rather tatty-looking hunting rifle ...
Plynkes, I know pictures of that girl!
Ever since I have read Your post, I have been asking myself if she has appeared in a comic drawn by Dave Gibbons(?) I cannot remember the title or the story, though.
I know that I liked it very much! But for the love of you know who I cannot remember the title of that comic. Do You?
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Anyone know of good figs to use for Super Mutants?
Hasslefree Drussch/Jotun models - massive with miniguns etc
Wow!! Those are perfect!
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Check out this guys Fallout scenery:
http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/gallery/gallery.php?album=110&uploadedby=&keyword=&sort=0&start=12
That's damn impressive! Any idea what he used to make so many brick walls?
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Vikotnik: I have no idea, mate. I didn't get her from a comic, I just made a black girl character with short hair in the game. The clothes are things I found along the way in the Wasteland.
Also, sometimes she wears power armour (experimental medical armour with its own AI that talks to you), and sometimes a Vault 101 Jumpsuit. Other times she wear a nice pink dress and wide-brimmed hat she got from Tenpenny Tower. (I like video games that let you play dress-up! :))
I think it is coincidence. I don't remember any such character. But it is entirely possible that the look is based on something I read and then forgot about. I'm afraid I don't know.
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GregX999, I beleive that the walls are Armorcast ruined brick wall sections, with what is most likely "sprue brick" rubble added. Gotta love a guy who not only builds the terrain, but a table to use it on. ;)
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I think it is coincidence. I don't remember any such character. But it is entirely possible that the look is based on something I read and then forgot about. I'm afraid I don't know.
...must be coincidence, then ... ::)
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Wow that bomb is smashing! Consider the idea looted!
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Wow that bomb is smashing! Consider the idea looted!
Copying the idea of a CHINESE nuke! Hilarity ensues! lol
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Wow that bomb is smashing! Consider the idea looted!
Copying the idea of a CHINESE nuke! Hilarity ensues! lol
Hahaha... I didn't even see that coming! But yes! lol
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Ok, so back on the nuke. A Kinder brand egg. Questions on that. Where is "Kinder" from? Is it a German company? Cant say i have heard of em before, or the secret egg. Is it an Easter thing or an all year round thing? Just me being curious. :-)
Grimm
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Kinder Surprise are actually Italian (despite the German-sounding name), but seem to be available all over Europe (we've had them here in Blighty since I was a nipper).
Basically a chocolate egg (brown chocolate on the outside, white on the inside: Some of the nicest chocolate I've ever had that wasn't the posh Belgian sort). Inside is a little plastic 40s atom bomb-shaped egg with a surprise toy in it (often some kind of snap-together kit).
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Kinder.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/800px-Kinder_Surprise_halved.jpg)
The toys inside change over time, and they sometimes have themed ones. Not seasonal, available all year round.
The plastic inners are great for scratch building. While I loved the chocolate, my response to the toys was usually "Ah, a shitty plastic toy, that's the surprise" (which is paraphrasing the old advertisements for the product).
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Great chocolate, and now i have an excuse to buy one too :D
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But a word of warning! Those yellow plastic capsules (the old ones, haven´t yet worked on a new one) use a polyethylen plastic which is rather difficult to glue and paint. Using those pieces works best if you can place them where they won´t get touched or scratched (I used one for a steam engine on a Landship, for example). Otherwise, roughen up the surface, or maybe cover with some thinned-down model filler prior to painting. The plastic shell I used for the bomb was easily base-coated using clear varnish.
You may wish to try competitor´s offers (ie, knockoffs of the Ferrero/Kinder eggs), if you can find them, that is. I once got a shell which was 8-sided, perfect for VSF boilers.
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Yeppers, i would have thought a German company from the name and the source of this group.
But explains why i have never seen em being here in the States.
Shame though, look real useful. And i dont mean about eating da chocolate :-)
Grimm
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Yeppers, i would have thought a German company from the name and the source of this group.
But explains why i have never seen em being here in the States.
Shame though, look real useful. And i dont mean about eating da chocolate :-)
Grimm
The Kinder Surprise stuff is available in Canada, but not in the US, probably to avoid lawsuits from kids eating the eggs whole and choking on the capsules.
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The Kinder Surprise stuff is available in Canada, but not in the US, probably to avoid lawsuits from kids eating the eggs whole and choking on the capsules.
lol lol lol
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yeah, they would have to have warning prented on the side.
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Duh!!!!! lol
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:D :D :D
Some of the toy bits are very useful too for post apocalyptic rubble.
http://www.displacedminiatures.com/Area23/gallery/1944/
Car tires, bits of furniture, teddybears and other useless crap can be recycled for post-urban barricades.
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S´more terrain!
Storage Shack:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/STORAGE_SHACK.jpg)
Dwelling:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/RUIN_SHACK_001.jpg)
McCarthy´s Saloon:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/MCCARTHYS_SALOON.jpg)
Cheers!
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ooh just the style of the game ;D
I'm looking at these for New california republic, but i think i have to play the game again first :)
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/spacepor.htm
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Awesome stuff! All of it! 8)
Where did you find such large pieces of corrugated card?
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Awesome stuff! All of it! 8)
Where did you find such large pieces of corrugated card?
I bought a new bed from IKEA - it had LOADS of the small detailed cardboard! lol
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Awesome stuff! All of it! 8)
Where did you find such large pieces of corrugated card?
Here in Germany, you can buy corrugated cardboard from crafts stores (Idee Creativmarkt, in my case). It´s only covered on one side, and there´s a huge variety of patterns, most in straights of various strengths, others wavy, etc. (although the latter are less useful to replicate corrugated metal, obviously). A 50x70cm sheet costs ~€1,95 (I already used the part of the card where the price sticker was, it may be a bit cheaper, but certainly not above 2 Euros). I´m afraid the closest Idee to Groningen is in Bremen, but I´m sure that you´ve got crafts stores in the Netherlands as well - I mean, you´ve got all kinds of nifty stores, so there must be some.
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I saw this on sweetwater, but always forgot to comment. Absolutely stunning. Not just the miniatures and the painting, but also your creativity and, dare I say, vision! You have captured the feel of Fallout to the last radioactive bit! Amazing! :-*
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More piccies!
Raider Gang:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SAVAGES.jpg)
And a Vault Dweller:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VAULT_DWELLER.jpg)
All from EM-4. Sterling service again, except (a very minor "except") for the Vault Dweller, which was a mispacked figure - but I got the number of figures I paid for, I could really use this one as well, and the missing figure wasn´t all that much required, anyway, so no problem afterall.
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i sense a order from EM-4 is coming on real soon.. top job on the figures :)
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Very nice, though the pictures (of the raiders) could be a bit larger with less white if you ask me ;)
I like the different styles on the raiders (Punks in neon colours, and more primal voodoo people, etc.) and also a very nice job on the vault dweller (great model too ;)).
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Ooh, Vault 13. Old-skool Fallout!
I'm more of a Vault 101 type of girl (or at least, my character is, though she has souvenir jumpsuits from several vaults).
So bongo, bongo, bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo, oh no no no no no...
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Very nice, though the pictures (of the raiders) could be a bit larger with less white if you ask me ;)
You´re perfectly right, of course, so I went back and tried to get the pictures a little bit better and bigger, and the background less bright.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SAVAGES_001.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SAVAGES_002.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SAVAGES_003.jpg)
Ooh, Vault 13. Old-skool Fallout!
Harumph. Never knew what was supposed to be wrong with isometric graphics! ;)
Anyway, I already painted a ghoul from Vault 12, but that is looking so ghastly (being an old Alternative Armies figure) that I still ponder whether to show it or not. Requires a base in any case.
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Still the upside is homemade penguin and pineapple sausages so its not all bad.
Errr..... yum? :P
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... a young African-American girl with a shaved head and wearing a pink nightie and Abraham Lincoln's hat, while toting a rather tatty-looking hunting rifle ...
Plynkes, I know pictures of that girl!
Ever since I have read Your post, I have been asking myself if she has appeared in a comic drawn by Dave Gibbons(?) I cannot remember the title or the story, though.
I know that I liked it very much! But for the love of you know who I cannot remember the title of that comic. Do You?
You must have been thinking about Martha Washington:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Washington_(comics)
http://www.darkhorse.com/Products/18-065/Martha-Washington-Action-Figure
I have all those comics and they are great :)
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Still the upside is homemade penguin and pineapple sausages so its not all bad.
Errr..... yum? :P
Its the fact penguin meat has a high proportion of fat in it, That means you can avoid mixing the pirmary meat with pork neck in order to get the 30% fat ratio a good sausage needs. Pure cute endangered species flavour with the tangy kick of pineapple to set it off. :-*
Errr... did I leave some weapons-grade uranium lying around in this thread?!? :-I ;)
Quick update: Just finished converting three Brahmin mutant cattle. Painting to ensue tomorrow!
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Awesome. Are we alowed to tip them over? Vitally important part of the game that! I must admit to doing it many times in Megaton.
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Awesome. Are we alowed to tip them over? Vitally important part of the game that! I must admit to doing it many times in Megaton.
Unfortunately, the 40mm bases (EM-4) guarantee for increased stability! lol
Preview "WIP" pic:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/MUTANTCATTLE.jpg)
Currently base-coated in earth brown.
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I hate to say it but you've completely outsmarted my own take on this idea!
I bow for you! lol
And now I'm off to find some PLASTIC cows instead of these metal ones...
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I hate to say it but you've completely outsmarted my own take on this idea!
I bow for you! lol
And now I'm off to find some PLASTIC cows instead of these metal ones...
Hint: These are the Pegasus Hobbies 1/48 cows from their Farm Animals box. Excellent set, that one. Apart from six cows (apparently that very rare and elusive single-headed Brahmin mutation!), you also get sheep, chicken, pigs, two sheepdogs... swell stuff, and only 9,50€ for 30 animals at my model store. The figures are cast in a "hard soft plastic", ie akin to Revell 1/72nd scale figures, but easily cut, glued with CA glue and painted with acrylics.
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These guy might make nice Brotherhood Paladins:-
(http://www.kryomekusa.com/imagesLarge/KNO/KNO-021.jpg)
Got miniguns anyway.
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Pegasus Hobbies 1/48 cows from their Farm Animals box. Excellent set, that one.
I agree
Great set for adding a little extra to your table :)
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Painted Brahmin!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/BRAHMIN.jpg)
Ghoul and... well, some Pardulon figures I´ll use for unholy abominations. Suggestions welcome from seasoned players of the Fallout games what those could represent.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/GHOUL_AND_DREADCLAWS.jpg)
Wasteland dwellers:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SCAVENGERS.jpg)
Man´s best friend!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/VAULT_DWELLER_AND_FRIEND.jpg)
Cheers!
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the two ghoulish things could be used as glowing ones, they have the same,,, "argh the pain"-look as they do :)
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Glowing_One
might need to give them a slight reapaint, if you had some fluorescent paint they would look fantastic i think
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The Brahmin look excellent.
Very frothy!
:)
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Man´s best friend!
The Blue Towel, of course! :D
Great Work! :-*
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Very nice, I like the brahmin. Though the pink does seem a little outta place.
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These are the Pegasus Hobbies 1/48 cows from their Farm Animals box. Excellent set, that one. Apart from six cows (apparently that very rare and elusive single-headed Brahmin mutation!), you also get sheep, chicken, pigs, two sheepdogs... swell stuff, and only 9,50€ for 30 animals at my model store. The figures are cast in a "hard soft plastic", ie akin to Revell 1/72nd scale figures, but easily cut, glued with CA glue and painted with acrylics.
I take it then 1/48 is a good size for 28mm? The brahmin look great by the way!
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These are the Pegasus Hobbies 1/48 cows from their Farm Animals box. Excellent set, that one. Apart from six cows (apparently that very rare and elusive single-headed Brahmin mutation!), you also get sheep, chicken, pigs, two sheepdogs... swell stuff, and only 9,50€ for 30 animals at my model store. The figures are cast in a "hard soft plastic", ie akin to Revell 1/72nd scale figures, but easily cut, glued with CA glue and painted with acrylics.
I take it then 1/48 is a good size for 28mm? The brahmin look great by the way!
Haaaah! Here we go again... lol Seriously, this is one of the famous "it depends" areas. I think these farm animals work rather well, because they are delicately-sculpted and therefore do not look as "huge" as "gaming style" figures with the same measurements would look (although I would have liked to have huge, bloated mutant cattle as well).
In this case it works out fine. Additionally, I´ve used 1970´s vintage Bandai 1/48 scale plastic figures to make vehicle crewmen for my 1/48th German vehicles. With such, it becomes very difficult and a thing of "Mix and match" - for example, I really think 1/48th scale Sherman tanks look excellent next to modern 28mm WW2 figures (BAM, BTD), but a Tiger Tank is far too huge.
Now that there´s a huge range of 1/56th scale vehicles from a number of manufacturers, I will henceforth only use those. Looks far better with most figure ranges.
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Enclave powered armour!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/ENCLAVE_PAs.jpg)
I ordered the range of Kryomek Nexus SWAT figures, each figure once, and they make great APAs. In addition, there were some figures that didn´t work as faceless minions of the fascist regime, due to bare heads, so I chose to slightly convert the helmets in a different way (the above got antennae/horns from plasticard and putty) and will paint them as Brotherhood of Steel paladins. I think the armours will work far better than the previous attempts.
I´ve alread converted another figure to carry a minigun (Enclave faction) and will probably do another wielding a Fatman launcher.
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:-* at first glance, those are even better than the ones from warzone, i don't have time to compare properly now... work work..
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Brotherhood of Steel Paladins:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/BOS_PALADINScopy.jpg)
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Mutant spiders:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SPIDERS.jpg)
Games Workshop figures, "Mirkwood Spiders" (some Lord of the Rings stuff, I assume), which were 50% discounted at my FLGS. Six more are currently painted for Fallout, and the remaining six as Space Spiders for Retro SF games, based differently.
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Thanks Chris ! Now, I know what "FLGS" means :
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FLGS
lol
I looked for cause yours spiders are really cute !
meow,
Matt
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Second batch of spiders, now got a full dozen to get that "2d6 mutated spiders" encounter result covered!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SPIDERS2.jpg)
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Nice!
I actually have a miniatures-spider disorder, which means I collect all that I can of the little buggers. I really love your paint on these.
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Nice!
I actually have a miniatures-spider disorder, which means I collect all that I can of the little buggers. I really love your paint on these.
Thanks! On the paint scheme of the second batch, I painted two of the beasties red to act as "leader spiders", or the "more hefty" variants - as said, I´ve never played Fallout, but was an avid Diablo I fan back in the day, and I seem to recall the "harder" variants of creatures were marked red. Other than that, for some radiation variation.
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Nice!
I actually have a miniatures-spider disorder, which means I collect all that I can of the little buggers. I really love your paint on these.
Thanks! On the paint scheme of the second batch, I painted two of the beasties red to act as "leader spiders", or the "more hefty" variants - as said, I´ve never played Fallout, but was an avid Diablo I fan back in the day, and I seem to recall the "harder" variants of creatures were marked red. Other than that, for some radiation variation.
You've never played fall out?!?!?! Now that one I didn't see coming!
Anyways - "leader paintjobs" are a good way to single out individuals in a swarm. I've used different back-patterns myself, but your idea is just as good, though makes the enemy even more away of where to target their fire :D
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How much will they go, and how soon can I get two! I hope not GW prices say $98.00? Thanks
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How much will they go, and how soon can I get two! I hope not GW prices say $98.00? Thanks
Errr... I´m not quite sure what you wish to say, but these "Spiders of Mirkwood" regularly go for price band D (11,50€ here in Germany), with each pack containing 9 (presumably random) models. I am unsure if they are still in stock, though, I couldn´t find them on the website any more.
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Wow Chris excellent stuff, :o
I have completely missed this thread until now, read from start to finish,
very good, reaaly loved the flyer and mutant cattle ;D
dodge
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Gah, just posted a long post in response to this, but got logged out and lost it! Hohum, let's try and remember...
Something along the lines of 'curses, I'd been planning to do this with the free downloaded FOW rules, but looks like i've been beaten to the punch!'
anyhoo, here's a list of manufacturers that i thought were suitable whilst researching possible minis to use for gaming fallout:
Em-4 (as mentioned earlier, nice scavengers, bikers etc for use as raiders etc)
Mad puppet (a little big perhaps, but nice scavengers - especially the jester :-* )
Future wars (Copplestone does a nice range of wasteland worthies)
Westwind road kill (some hilbillies and military types)
Hasslefree (they make everything! more specifically, druusch and jotun for use in super mutant conversions)
Ramshackle games (post-apoc weirdness)
Darkson Designs (Rohlingsoldat for use in super mutant conversions)
Warzone/Prince August (tons of stuff - people's conversions from earlier in the thread, though i was planning on using the plastic bauhaus troopers that come in the boxed game as the basis for BoS/outcasts - the armour looks about right, and they come with minigns... plus a whole variety of heavily amoured and cultist types, just a pity that they're mostly a little on the chunky side...)
not a comprehensive list by any means, but hopefully of use to somebody...
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How much will they go, and how soon can I get two! I hope not GW prices say $98.00? Thanks
Errr... I´m not quite sure what you wish to say, but these "Spiders of Mirkwood" regularly go for price band D (11,50€ here in Germany), with each pack containing 9 (presumably random) models. I am unsure if they are still in stock, though, I couldn´t find them on the website any more.
They are listed under the sourcebook section. Have had problems finding stuff on the new website, too ;)
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1290068&prodId=prod1080052&rootCatGameStyle=lotr
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Just a question, slightly off topic(?): Is the Fallout 3 game available for PC or only a console game?
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Just a question, slightly off topic(?): Is the Fallout 3 game available for PC or only a console game?
pc, ps3, and xbox 360
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Just a question, slightly off topic(?): Is the Fallout 3 game available for PC or only a console game?
pc, ps3, and xbox 360
Ah, great, thanks (I could probably have googled my way to that answer, but still) :)
I'll go checking some local stores - I LOVED Fallout and Fallout 2 :-*
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It's a very different game to the earlier Fallout games, Argonor. Just thought you ought to know. Many fans of the originals can't stand it, dubbing it "Oblivion with guns."
Personally, I love it, though it isn't perfect.
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Two more BoS Paladins:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/BOS_PALADINS_02.jpg)
And various small terrain pieces.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SMALLTERRAINcopy-1.jpg)
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Personally, I love it, though it isn't perfect.
Bizarrely, as you level up it seems to bug and crash less, at least on the 360...
Back on the gaming front, I got to thinking yesterday and realised that the Necromunda ruleset would probably work quite well for gaming Fallout, since it's got built in scavenging for survival rules; All you'd really need to do would be convert some weapon stats (counts-as being easiest) fiddle the territories table and away you go...
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Like your new figs chris and the terrain pieces are perfecto 8)
dodge
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Bizarrely, as you level up it seems to bug and crash less, at least on the 360...
I didn't mean it was buggy (though it is a bit), just that it isn't a perfect game. Like most games there are some small things about it that annoy me (both stylistic/story and gameplay wise). But still one of my favourites of the year.
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Just a question, slightly off topic(?): Is the Fallout 3 game available for PC or only a console game?
pc, ps3, and xbox 360
Ah, great, thanks (I could probably have googled my way to that answer, but still) :)
I'll go checking some local stores - I LOVED Fallout and Fallout 2 :-*
Just wait a bit longer before buying.
There are three add-ons planned- first one already available (Operation Anchorage)- which make the game even better.
I'm waiting for the next two now and will re-play the entire game.
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What are the nest to add ons supposed to be about? or have they not said yet?
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What are the nest to add ons supposed to be about? or have they not said yet?
The second add-on, 'The Pitt', takes you to Pittsburgh, which, although it was not directly hit by the bombs, has received a lot of river-borne radiation. Lots of mutants, apparently. (Feb.)
Part three, 'Broken Steel', continues the game's storyline and increases the maximum level that characters can attain. As a member of the Brotherhood of Steel, you're out to take care of the Enclave, once and for all. (Mar.)
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"FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN."
In order to counter the military might of the fascist oppressor regime that is the Enclave, here´s Liberty Prime, the 40ft harbinger of nuclear whupass created by the US military in the 2070s to liberate Anchorage from the Chinese. Having slumbered beneath the ruins of the Pentagon for the better part of 200 years, the Brotherhood of Steel managed to re-activate the robot, which then proceeds to kick the living s**t out of every Enclave trooper it encounters.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/LIBERTY_PRIME_FRONT_VIEW.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/LIBERTY_PRIME_REAR_VIEW.jpg)
In addition to the painted pictures above, here´s a shot of the major subassemblies prior to base-coating. Interestingly enough, the basecoat did not dry as well as usually on the pink plastic parts, leaving some cracks which were then cunningly exploited as paint damage suffered on the field of battle.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/LIBERTY_PRIME_WIP_PARTS.jpg)
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Oh bravo.
I love Liberty Prime. I wish he could be your sidekick for the entire game (though it would make things a tad easy, I fear).
EMBRACE DEMOCRACY, OR YOU WILL BE ERADICATED.
Edit: That grass looks a bit green for the Capital Wasteland. Picky, picky, picky... ;)
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Oh bravo.
I love Liberty Prime. I wish he could be your sidekick for the entire game (though it would make things a tad easy, I fear).
Actually, you can add him using that console function...
EMBRACE DEMOCRACY, OR YOU WILL BE ERADICATED.
Whatever you say, mate! ;) lol
Edit: That grass looks a bit green for the Capital Wasteland. Picky, picky, picky... ;)
Yeah, I was too lazy to look for the correct bag of grass. Only noticed after applying this variety that I had used the bright green one and not the brownish variant I used for the other bases. I´ll try to run a wash over it tomorrow.
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:o I wants me one of those! :o
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Lazy I can empathise with. I practically invented the word. Ah, don't bother on my account. Maybe Liberty Prime has made his way to Oasis.
Console function? I guess that's for aristocrats with powerful PCs, eh? I don't imagine us lowly PS3 owners can do that, can we? :)
By the way, I don't think "Oh Bravo" really does this justice. You really are a talented fellow, Christian. I wouldn't know where to begin with something like this.
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Wow that is just incredible Chris! :D Are you still exploring the Capital Wasteland in Fallout 3 for inspiration? I have been thinking about trying out some of the better mods to see how they do. Also two more official mods due out soon I believe!
Have you had a Fallout game yet with all your goodies?
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Wow, this fella is absolutely incredible. Great job.
This thread is such an excellent source of inspiration and it gets better and better....
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Top job as always Chris.
:)
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Lazy I can empathise with. I practically invented the word. Ah, don't bother on my account. Maybe Liberty Prime has made his way to Oasis.
lol As promised, I ran some wash over the grass and added some of the brownish variety (which I found immediately after I stopped looking for it). Looks better now and more tied-in with the rest of the figures.
Console function? I guess that's for aristocrats with powerful PCs, eh? I don't imagine us lowly PS3 owners can do that, can we?
Possibly so. I only read about it while looking for reference images. Apparently, it´s a games designers tool which you can use to place any item or character at any desired place in the game. Reeks of cheating, and I probably wouldn´t do it, although I DID have quite some fun with a similar function in 1997´s GTA game (boating around Frisco sure is fun, until you try to disembark and involuntarily drown. And that helicopter never worked.).
Wow that is just incredible Chris! :D Are you still exploring the Capital Wasteland in Fallout 3 for inspiration? I have been thinking about trying out some of the better mods to see how they do. Also two more official mods due out soon I believe!
As hilarious as it may sound, I STILL have to play a game of ANY Fallout PC outing... I´m still running on the artbook my brother got in his F3 steel box edition, and the stuff you find using Google... Those mods look rather interesting, especially the "War against the Enclave" thing. And of course (although it is already published) this Alaska War supplement.
Have you had a Fallout game yet with all your goodies?
Nah. I had hoped to get one in last weekend, but couldn´t reach my brother in time, so we couldn´t schedule a game.
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Two "Teslapoles/Photonic Resonance Barriers" to mildly amuse Liberty Prime´s A.I. before he nonchalantly smashes through on his way to victory!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/TESLAPOLES_pres.jpg)
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Fantastic! I'm going to steal the two-headed cows idea, to cool not to use. Top marks on such an inspired project!
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Hey guys, finally violated my resolution not to build anything big for the project, and built a game scale, condensed and simplefied Jefferson Memorial out of XPS styrofoam and various sorts of cardboard.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/JEFMEM03.jpg)
Some painted views with figures for scale:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/JEFFERSON_MEMORIAL_3Q.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/JEFFERSON_MEMORIAL_F.jpg)
Looking into the rotunda; the cupola is removable to allow access to the interior which will be filled with laboratory equipment.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/INTERIOR_SHOT.jpg)
To complement the piece, I´m going to build some square feet of tubes and chemical-plant-looking thingbits, plus metal gangways - I´m thinking of using some platformer sets for those to save time, but I´m also considering doing some cardboard cutout plans.
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<thump>
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Thats brilliant :o
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You did it!!! Great piece :-* :-*
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Oh Wow :-* :-* :-* :-*
dodge
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Heh, I just cleared out the Jefferson Memorial last night :D
Looks bloody good. Are you going to add a statue of jefferson inside a giant tube of murky water in the centre?
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Wow!! Great piece
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Are you going to add a statue of jefferson inside a giant tube of murky water in the centre?
Indeed I plan to do so! I´m currently looking for 70mm figures that would fit the bill. Basically, any 18th-century civilian in a similar pose would do, since you won´t be noticing any difference at that scale and once the figure is suitably corroded and encased in the purifier central core.
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Fantastic!
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Since this thread moved away from Chris's original post about his Fallout project I have split the remainder into another topic here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12616.0
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Good lord... I am chastened and bowed...
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Gee! Almost two years since my last post in that thread - that must be a new low, even for me.
Anyway, the recent flurry of Fallout-focused frolics on this forum prompted me to finally paint some more minis I got over the last year to use for the project.
Enclave Reinforcements (Scotia Grendel "Kryomek Nexus SWAT", with thanks to user Comsquare):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/ENCLAVE_REINFORCEMENTS.jpg)
A supermutant (Hasslefree "Jotun"):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SUPERMUTANT_1.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Fallout/SUPERMUTANT_VS_ENCLAVE_TROOPER.jpg)
I really like the Jotun, and will hopefully get the other one as well (and may splurge on the weapons/arms pack too, since I don't really like the tentacle arm it comes with). Also got one of the other Druusch Cyberzombies which will make another "combat mutant", but I have to dig it out first. :D
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ace! lovin the enclave!!
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Yummy! those minis look great. What did you use for the green effect on the guns, necron plastic rods?
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Yay I've been looking forward to this... but you already know that as I stated it at BLAM! lol
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Very Cool. I love the Jotun.
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Yummy! those minis look great. What did you use for the green effect on the guns, necron plastic rods?
No, its a basecoat of VGC "Dark Green", highlighted with a bright yellow and white, and finally glazed with VMC "Translucent Green". Great effect, if I may say so myself, and I will be certainly using it for future "plasmatic" applications.
While we're at it, I'm looking at building another vehicle for the Fallout project, and am torn between three options:
1, a tracked transport loosely based on the M8E2:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/us_cargo_carrier_m8e2-003.jpg)
2, another Vertibird, based on the model seen in Fallout and Fallout 2 rather than the spiffing new one:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/Vertibird_render_final.jpg)
3 this marvellous piece by illustrator Scott Robertson, which I found over on http://conceptrobots.blogspot.com:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/s_robertson_05.jpg)
The last one is currently my favourite, but a bit "un-falloutey", since they have so little in the "Mecha" department apart from the Robot Empire and Libby...
Any input welcome.
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Nice to see this thread revived. Since it was the one that inspired me the most and got the fire burning.
I think the Kryomek figs are a really cool choice for enclave or brotherhood power armor trooper. I got all of the nexus packs somewhere on the lead mountain too and will dig them out soon.
The paintjob on the Jotun is great too.
One question regarding the paintjob on the Enclave troopers: Is there some highlighting on the black armor or is it just plain black? I'm asking because i'm finishing a squad of evil empire Space Marines as Prototype Power Armour and i'm not satisfied with my highlights on all the plain surfaces of the armor. So if it looks as great as your troopers by leaving the armor plain black that would be a great relief to me.
Hope the pictures keep coming.
As to the vehicle question: Option three would be cool!
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One question regarding the paintjob on the Enclave troopers: Is there some highlighting on the black armor or is it just plain black? I'm asking because i'm finishing a squad of evil empire Space Marines as Prototype Power Armour and i'm not satisfied with my highlights on all the plain surfaces of the armor. So if it looks as great as your troopers by leaving the armor plain black that would be a great relief to me.
The paint scheme for the armour is relatively easy. I started with VMC "German Grey", which was applied in two moderately thin layers over a white basecoat (GW Spray Primer, with VMC "Foundation White" for touch-up). This step should cover the whole mini, with no "self-shading" (which I often use on other minis but not really for large areas of armour).
I then painted in the hoses, pouches, belts and joint covers in Revell Aqua Color "NATO Olive". When that was dry, I painted on a well-thinned coat of VMC "Black", close to "wash" strength, but based on actual acrylic paint rather than a "ready-made" wash/ink.
This was followed by detail highlighting of the olive areas with some VMC "Ochre" mixed in. Eyes were picked out in Red-Orange with a spot of white for "glow".
Finally, the guns (except the cannon) were slightly and as precisely as possible drybrushed with VMC "Oiled Steel", with minuscule application of Revell Aqua "Aluminium" (and the plasma effect described above).
It is actually very simple. I am not 100% convinced, though, if it will work on GW Space Marine armour, since those have larger continuous areas which have considerable risk of "puddling" when washed. Still, you could try it and re-touch any puddled areas with some more German Grey.
Basically, black grey/"Panzergrau", wash with black, and hey presto. No actual "highlighting". Some of the shine may result from protective coats of Marabu Satin Gloss varnish and VMC Matte Varnish.
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Chris,love the Vertibird,excellent work....I shall not ramble :-I
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Do you do any battle reports or have I just missed them? This stuff is great!!
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Do you do any battle reports or have I just missed them? This stuff is great!!
Unfortunately, I only managed to play a single game ("Them Bloody Brahmin Rustlers") before I left Germany, but I hope to get some more going when I move back next autumn (or maybe these christmas holidays, but I cannot promise anything).
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I love the Rotunda model, fantastic work. The minis are looking ace too.
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Chris, the Scott Robertson robo is my favourite, too. I really would love to see it as a gaming model. Complex construction, but you'll manage to do it, will you?
:)
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Chris, the Scott Robertson robo is my favourite, too. I really would love to see it as a gaming model. Complex construction, but you'll manage to do it, will you?
:)
The thing is figuring out the proper mechanism for the front legs. At first, I thought they were mounted in that "0"-shaped bracket, which swivels on a top and bottom ball-bearing joint, but at closer inspection, I saw that it is fixed to the gondola front, and the legs would probably move up and down in the "rail" opening. Still trying to wrap my head around it so it does look halfway plausible.
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Despite it looking straight-forward, it's actually quite a complex arrangement. It looks like the steering is done from the rear and the front legs are essentially anchors used to pull it forwards, with little directional shifting from them... by only putting one down it would be able to pivot using the rear legs and the 'hips' to provide the directional axis. On an incline the front risers allow it to reach up and pull itself up with support from the rear legs. It would be like watching someone pull themselves along or up an ice sheet using two ice picks.
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Maybe think in terms of a cricket--its legs kinda look like that??!!
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Complex, but very cool if you pull off.
Love this thread. It has been a real inspiration.