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Offline Tim Haslam

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Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« on: 31 December 2024, 01:34:58 PM »
I’m thinking during the Peloponnesian war, 480BC kind of thing.

Would they be the traditional looking hill tribe kind of dudes, loads of patterns and colours on their tunics.
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Would they be ‘Greek’ looking at this time, more like a traditional peltast?

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Re: Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« Reply #1 on: 31 December 2024, 01:42:33 PM »
Mostly up to you- I'm sure it varied from group to group. Certainly the Athenians were happy to take on more "exotic" units like the Scythian Archers, so it's perfectly reasonable to go a bit ham.

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Re: Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« Reply #2 on: 31 December 2024, 04:07:37 PM »
It is not really clear if the term Thracian actually meant Thracians or was just a style of fighting, as in fighting in the Thracian manner.  Therefore, you can do whatever you have models for and want to paint!   
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Re: Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« Reply #3 on: 31 December 2024, 04:10:34 PM »
Hill dudes are always more fun to paint and see on the table!

Offline DalyDR

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Re: Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« Reply #4 on: 31 December 2024, 08:59:09 PM »
The Peloponnesian War started in 431 BC.  Here's a link to a vase in the British Museum collection that is dated to that general period and shows some Thracians:

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1836-0224-227

Of course, it might be depicting Thracians from an earlier period, I don't know.  But, it's something.

And another, this one dated to about 430 BC:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Manner_of_the_Kleophon_Painter_ARV_1148_7_Orpheus_singing_before_the_Thracians_-_three_draped_youths_%2801%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

« Last Edit: 31 December 2024, 09:07:24 PM by DalyDR »

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Re: Thracian allies in Athenian armies?
« Reply #5 on: 02 January 2025, 01:37:18 PM »
Tribal style is definitely appropriate for this period. The Thracians had a pretty savage reputation, I believe one band hired by the Athenians was infamous for rampaging and massacring a Greek town.

The Hellenized Thracian look is more for the Post-Alexander period and the Macedonian Successors.
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