6mm Sengoku Jidai

[wkeyser]

Hi I just saw your castle 1/200 do you think it would work with 10mm?
thanks
William

[Osmoses]

Yes, it should be OK. There can be a bit of variance in 10mm figure sizes though. Some measurements:
Main gate: 16mm high
Side gate: 13mm high
Doorways leading to balcony: 10mm.

AFAIK, Plum do 3 castles in 1/200
https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectseries%3Aplumjapanesecastle

[wkeyser]

Thanks i found one on Amazon so will have to order from there.

I would love for you to go with measurements instead of grid. I think this system would work great without the restraints of a grid system. Would need to figure out ZOC not sure how you would take care of that. I am still playing with the basing for my 10mm figures so have not really started on this project.

I like the army generation idea of having a core of units, then roll to add extra clans, as you say it would keep the feel of the armys.

I am now thinking of just working from the board game and just build the armies as there so no generic units but again the idea of a certain number of figures on the base to represent the combat values.
 

William

[Osmoses]

I think it would work fine without grids. I will try it without a grid as it means I could reduce the movement unit a bit and get better use of the limited space I have on my table at home. In that instance, I think ZOC would just be base-to-base contact, or possibly a very small 3cm zone or something. I do think that square unit bases would be better in a grid-less game, as there might be some issues with turning otherwise. It's probably not a big deal, but worth bearing in mind.

The army generator needs a bit more work I think, but it was primarily for setting up pick-up games.

I think you would eventually want the ability to have different combat values for units, just to be able to play different battles. But our initial games just lifted the combat values straight from sections of the battles in the board game. I liked the idea of having the figures themselves translate to unit stats, but in practice this was a bit tricky trying to count them before each fight. It would be easier in 10mm though!

Finally, I would say that time spent on planning the bases is time well spent. With mixed figure bases, the more figures you use the better it looks, but you need a lot of bases for Tenkatoitsu. Even with 30 figures on a base, you're looking at around 500 figures a side. That's a lot of painting. Also, the bigger the base, the better it looks, but larger bases cut down the size of your battlefield in relative terms. So it's important to get it right before you start.

[Osmoses]

Some more fields and trees added.




More pics on the 'blog https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/2018/09/05/villages-fields-and-forests/

[OSHIROmodels]

Lovely, lovely work 

[fred]

Very impressive

[vcina]

Beautiful Work!

[OSHIROmodels]

How much more are you going to do for this?

[Osmoses]

Oh, it's pretty open ended. I'm currently on 34 bases, but I want to get to 40 to have 20-a-side. Then I'll want to add Ukita and Tokugawa. I'll probably want to get the small scale battle stuff (Ōtomo and Shimazu) up to about 600 figures a side. I also have Matsumoto castle to make, probably more buildings and likely some more paddy fields. A wooden fort system would be useful at some point too.

It's a big undertaking, but I prefer to do a small number of periods in a big way, than a lot of periods in a more 'normal' size. Otherwise some figure collections would never see any use down here.

[OSHIROmodels]

Open ended is always good 

I've got plans for a 6mm yamashiro (along with  15mm one) so that might help.

[wkeyser]

It would be great if you did some 10mm builings oshiro. There are some but not many and few as good as yours.

[Osmoses]

I've not seen an early Sengoku wooden fort in kit form in any scale, so that'd be good. The towers especially.

Are you working to a definite scale? I'm finding Baccus 6mm are closer to 1/225 than 1/300. A 10mm range might be OK 6mm too. I'm using some Castle Arts stuff without much problem.

[OSHIROmodels]

I was initially thinking 1/300 then it would match the kits but maybe 8mm or so would be best then they can be used for both 6mm and 10mm 

[Osmoses]

In the end I went for a 1/200 castle. Baccus figures are 7-8mm high. The average Japanese man of the Sengoku period was 157cm tall, so the figures work out at between 1/224 and 1/196.