28mm Napoleonic French Army project.

[Crusader]

Hi Thomas,
             Thanks for the info, I have a copy of Shako II coming from a fellow forum member in Australia, but thanks for letting me know.
Love your work, looking forward to producing  some thing similar.

and I found the Mont St Jean site, thanks for that.


Cheers
Neil

[Crusader]

Guys,
        Sorry for the Newbie questions, I found a marvelous site for flags.
But who do you give them to??

I am trying to model II Corps, 5th Infantry Division, 2nd Brigade as my starting point.
so:

 2 Battalions of 72nd Line and
 3 Battalions of 108th Line

do you give all Battalions a flag or just the first?

Cheers
Neil.

[petercooman123]

Check this discussion for info on flags and fanions. Discussion starts off about 1804-1812, but past 1812 is mentions as well.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=350241

[Crusader]

awesome thanks for that, it tells me it's temp out but I'll keep checking it.

[petercooman123]

Yes that's TMP, always down for an hour in the morning for updating/maintenance.

some more from
http://www.napolun.com/mirror/web2.airmail.net/napoleon/infantry_Napoleon.html#frencheagles :

 1812
 In April 1812 was ordered that each regiment of light and line infantry will receive a new tricolor pattern flag, which bore on the reverse the battle honors of the regiment. {The battle honors were restricted to battles at which Napoleon had commanded in person.}
In 1812 every infantry regiment had only one Eagle. It was carried by an eagle-bearer (officer) and guarded by 2 guards (sergeants, brave but usually too stupid for commission) and 6 furiers (drawn from companies). The 2 guards (sergeants) were not the jalonneurs of the battalion. The Eagle was with the 2nd Company of 1st Battalion. The 2nd Battalion carried white fanion, the 3rd red fanion, the 4th blue, the 5th green and the 6th Battalion carried yellow fanion. Some regiments however left their Eagles in depots and went to Russia with fanions only. The Old Guard regiments, however, kept its 1804 pattern standards until 1813.

In 1814 Napoleon reissued Eagles to regiments who had had them confiscated or/and destroyed by the Bourbons. The eagles and tricolor flags were bigger but much simpler. All the regiments of Young Guard carried simple fanions.

1815
 The flag of 1815 was also a tri-color pattern but it lacked almost all the magnificent embroidery of 1804 pattern. After Waterloo the Bourbons did their best to see that all the napoleonic standards and eagles were destroyed. In some regiments the officers burned the standards before mixing the ashes with wine and drinking them down. The officers of the 2nd Swiss Regiment in napoleonic army, tore their standard into strips with each officer keeping a piece.

[petercooman123]

Some info here, and a look at the fanion colours, from the leaflet provided with the warlord games late french infantry box:



and an example from flags of war:

[petercooman123]

When i was starting out with nappies, i found it very hard to find pictures of batallions with fanions instead of regular flags. Seems like a lot of wargamers just use the flags for aesthetic reasons!

some nice examples can be found on the gmb site:

http://www.gmbdesigns.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=257

[Crusader]

petercooman123,
       you have been extremely helpful, thank you.
I jsut bought a heap of II Corps flags from Flags of War,
I didn't think to look for the Fanions as well

cheers,
Neil

[petercooman123]

You're welcome!

I still haven't decided how I will do mine, but had already done some research. Still painting up cavalry at the moment. I have done the first batallions of my troops. When the cavalry is done, I'll start looking for fanions to do my 2nd batallions!

[Crusader]

so Um-ing and Ah-ing over a felxible basing system...
and the solution was staring me in the face the whole time.

I have a 3D printer on my desk, I can print bases with magnet holes  DUH!

Neil

[Crusader]

I will try and print some tonight..




Neil

[petercooman123]

Looks good!

[janner]

I'd second organising figures by subunit (company) rather than mixing the, up - it's how they fought 

My late French battalions are on six bases of six figures, but six of four also works well.

On flags, GMB are a good option as you can buy sets from historical orbats, http://www.gmbdesigns.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=257

[Crusader]

hot of the 3D printer, Magnets added ..



I'm happy with them.

[petercooman123]

Looks great! Nice fit as well.