[Portuguese in India] Goa 1510 WIP (Update August 2021)

[DintheDin]

It is coming out great! Congrats!
I'll mark this thread to follow your progress!

[joekano]

Very cool! Looking forward to seeing how this progresses

[Marine0846]

I am very excited to follow along with what you are building.
Excellent start, love the details.
Really look forward to seeing what comes next.

[Metternich]

Foundry Conquistadors a good choice for Portuguese, as they are really intended for the earliest phase of the conquest and fit in well for 1510.  Eureka Portugeuse without morion should work (if you stay away from any with trunk hose).  Another possible option are some of the TAG Spanish/Neapolitan troops (which are for the earliest phase of the Italian Wars) :

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/hernan-cortes-de-monroy-y-pizarro-and-conquistador-command-group/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitanspanish-with-swords-and-bucklers-ii/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neopolitanspanish-with-swords-and-bucklers-i/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitanspanish-standing-with-pikepole-weapon-at-30-degrees/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitanspanish-skirmishing-with-crossbow/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitanspanish-standing-with-crossbow/

http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitan-spanish-standing-with-pikepole-weapon/


http://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product/neapolitanspanish-standing-with-pikepole-weapon-at-30-degrees/

[Byblos]

Yes , but you know the Portuguese in the early days of their India settlement were in low numbers , so the Foundry & the Eureka will be sufficient 

And it will cost me less money ! Even a so small amount of troops cost a lot 

[Metternich]

Just some options.  The Foundry Conquistadors are just fine.

[Byblos]

Indeed 

[Codsticker]

A fantastic and unique project! The really interesting question is what will you be using for native troops?

[Byblos]

A fantastic and unique project! The really interesting question is what will you be using for native troops?

Hi !

Goa belongs originally to the Bahmani sultanate , it's a Muslim city (The original hindou city was destroyed) so the troops are mainly Muslim troops , with a lot of mercenary (Turks , Persians ...) that the Portuguses called "White Turks"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate

But i need troops differents from the usual "Muslim Conquest / Moors / Saracens" and it was difficult to find them !

After a lot of research , i found that my Gripping Beast Timurids (I owned and began to paint sopme of them before) are really intersting for that !

I found that the Black Tree Design saracens are more armored and more "eastern" than the other existing Saracen range so i bought some of them , even in their Fantasy Saracen range ( Some of their command make perfect Turco-mongols !)

I have 6 armored saracen bowmen from FireForge : they are perfect but seems to be a pain to built 

And for some native troops i will use Foundry hindus and maybe Old Glory Ancient Indians bowmen

Then the Bahmani Sultanate Army will be , as in history , a "melting pot" army , with some conversions to make artillery men too , a very intersting army to build and paint !

I will make a description of the project but the problem is my english language    (I'm not fluent enought) : i have to work on it !

[Metternich]

Just a thought, but would some of the Baluchi from Wargames Foundry's Congo range work ?

https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/darkest-africa-balichis/products/da053-baluchi-swordsmen

[Byblos]

Hi !

I've bought some of these Baluchis , i will maybe use them as Nayars , a warriors cast of Malabar (South West coasts of India) !

[rumacara]

If you have the chance check the frostgrave bodies of the cultists and heads from Gripping Beast arabs.
Might work for some more muslim troops.

[Codsticker]

Hi !

Goa belongs originally to the Bahmani sultanate , it's a Muslim city (The original hindou city was destroyed) so the troops are mainly Muslim troops , with a lot of mercenary (Turks , Persians ...) that the Portuguses called "White Turks"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate

But i need troops differents from the usual "Muslim Conquest / Moors / Saracens" and it was difficult to find them !

After a lot of research , i found that my Gripping Beast Timurids (I owned and began to paint sopme of them before) are really intersting for that !

I found that the Black Tree Design saracens are more armored and more "eastern" than the other existing Saracen range so i bought some of them , even in their Fantasy Saracen range ( Some of their command make perfect Turco-mongols !)

I have 6 armored saracen bowmen from FireForge : they are perfect but seems to be a pain to built 

And for some native troops i will use Foundry hindus and maybe Old Glory Ancient Indians bowmen

Then the Bahmani Sultanate Army will be , as in history , a "melting pot" army , with some conversions to make artillery men too , a very intersting army to build and paint !

I will make a description of the project but the problem is my english language    (I'm not fluent enought) : i have to work on it !

I wondered if you could make use of the GB Timurids. For a while I was buying up Indus miniatures as I wanted a late 16thC/early 17thC Mughal force and GB's Timurids were a little early- right in the zone for your project though. Some of the Indus minis, especially the Hindu militia and cavalry might be good for your native force: link.

[Byblos]

Hi Cod !

For Muslim indians circa 1510 the GB Timurids are good , the Indus miniatures (very pretty minies) are too late i think !

But the Hindu militia bowmen could be very interesting , and maybe the elephants and moreover the crew !

I will consider buying some of these !

For the light hindu cavalry , i could buy some Foundry , and for civilians too ...

[Codsticker]

Hi Cod !

For Muslim indians circa 1510 the GB Timurids are good , the Indus miniatures (very pretty minies) are too late i think !

But the Hindu militia bowmen could be very interesting , and maybe the elephants and moreover the crew !

I will consider buying some of these !

For the light hindu cavalry , i could buy some Foundry , and for civilians too ...

Yeah, most of their minis are about 200 years out of date for your project but the Pindari cavalry is generic enough that they might work as well.