Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News:
Donate to the Lead Adventure Forum to keep it alive!
Home
Help
TinyPortal
Search
Calendar
Gallery
Search
Stats
Donations
Login
Register
Lead Adventure Forum
»
Forum
»
Miniatures Adventure
»
The Conflicts that came in from the Cold
(Moderator:
Westfalia Chris
) »
28mm IDF with Tavors?
User
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
April 28, 2024, 07:40:59 AM
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Donate
We Appreciate Your Support
Search
Advanced search
stats
Members
Total Members: 10456
Latest:
PhoenixDragon81
Stats
Total Posts: 1690928
Total Topics: 118359
Online Today: 698
Online Ever: 2235
(October 29, 2023, 01:32:45 AM)
Users Online
Users: 21
Guests: 614
Total: 635
Ragnar
Ultravanillasmurf
duc de limbourg
LazyStudent
Mad Lord Snapcase
tikitang
Elk101
DivisMal
Phil Robinson
Hwiccee
infelix
KGatch113
HereWego
MM
Silent Invader
Ogrob
Daeothar
theoldschool
Sterling Moose
Recent
BSC2024 Ragnar's Turnip28...
by
Ragnar
[
Today
at 07:39:17 AM]
Blacks Post Apoc Building...
by
BlackMetallic
[
Today
at 07:11:51 AM]
(SALE) Tom Meier Thunderb...
by
tikitang
[
Today
at 07:05:52 AM]
Punic Wars Campaign Weeke...
by
Tim Haslam
[
Today
at 06:30:34 AM]
TV Sci-Fi in 28mm
by
carlos marighela
[
Today
at 02:55:43 AM]
Shogun remake
by
Cat
[
Today
at 01:12:04 AM]
CapnJim's Modern Stuff (A...
by
mikedemana
[
Today
at 01:08:44 AM]
Combat optionsvery small ...
by
Mako
[
Today
at 01:04:48 AM]
Mean Streets: The Warrior...
by
mikedemana
[
Today
at 01:04:39 AM]
Flint and Feather Iroquoi...
by
mikedemana
[
Today
at 01:02:34 AM]
15mm Sci Fi - 5 Parsecs T...
by
mikedemana
[
Today
at 12:09:17 AM]
Anyone done tabletop Rust...
by
mikedemana
[
Today
at 12:01:16 AM]
Chopper Down! post-apocal...
by
mikedemana
[April 27, 2024, 11:55:20 PM]
28mm fantasy sculpts from...
by
Mammoth miniatures
[April 27, 2024, 11:16:37 PM]
Ogrob's medievals for SAG...
by
Ogrob
[April 27, 2024, 10:55:06 PM]
« previous
next »
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
4
Go Down
Author
Topic: 28mm IDF with Tavors? (Read 4610 times)
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
on:
May 09, 2020, 11:54:14 PM »
With Mike Bravo Miniatures gone AWOL I'm wondering what the other options for the Israel Defense Force are. Specifically figures armed with Tavors.
Mongrel Miniatures figures come with Galils. Stan Johansen Miniatures do have Tavors, but I'm not into the sculpting - nor the price with international shipping.
Spectre Miniatures does one mercenary with a Tavor (maybe a few more), not much to make a force out of.
And that's about it as far as I'm aware. Which is a shame, particularly in that the figures could be used for a number of foreign forces as well (which is what I'm wanting to use them for).
Any ideas, or is this something I'll have to wait another decade on to find figures for? Or if someone has that set of figures I ordered that never showed up from Mike Bravo maybe put a comment in.
Logged
Ewan
Scientist
Posts: 360
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #1 on:
May 10, 2020, 07:45:51 AM »
I believe White Dragon Miniatures in their Courage in Conflict range will be bringing out modern IDF.
Logged
Ultravanillasmurf
Galactic Brain
Posts: 9358
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #2 on:
May 10, 2020, 10:26:17 AM »
Tagore, but possibly not the right scale...
https://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/tavor-arms
I suspect they are too chunky for modern gamers, but I suspect my Space Opera rebels in a Galaxy far far away might find a use for them.
Logged
More on my blog at
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk
Brummie
Mastermind
Posts: 1358
Incoming!
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #3 on:
May 10, 2020, 10:47:59 AM »
Currently holding out for White Dragon IDF. I have his Brits and they're very nice, slightly chunky compared to other ranges but allows for painting them that much easier.
Logged
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #4 on:
May 10, 2020, 04:07:20 PM »
Yeah, the Anvil Industry figures are unfortunately aimed at the 40K crowd - which is a pity as they have so much stuff which is just unusable unless you're using the bits for larger scale figures.
White Dragon May be what to look out for then. Their proportions will be the main concern - as my existing figures are mostly Empress, which tend to be tall, but with a skinnier profile. If its just a squad of guys with Tavors though then their guns being a bit larger may not be so obvious.
If I could get a hold of the loose guns though I'd be looking at sculpting up the figures themselves. But gone are those days - and I'm not involved with 3D printers. :/
Logged
Rich H
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 3232
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #5 on:
May 10, 2020, 06:24:47 PM »
Find a drawing and I'll take a look if you just want guns.
Logged
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #6 on:
May 10, 2020, 06:59:36 PM »
Crivens Rich, that's be great!
Would this be suitable?
https://victorcg.artstation.com/projects/0qd6K
If you could do me a set of those then I'd go ahead and sculpt up some female Ukrainian soldiers with them, and be right chuffed of course.
Logged
Rich H
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 3232
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #7 on:
May 10, 2020, 07:14:01 PM »
Needs to be side on and a line drawing ideally. I did have a quick look but I don't know which model of tavor
Logged
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #8 on:
May 10, 2020, 07:28:31 PM »
Ideally I'm looking for the FORT-221, based on the Israeli CTAR-21, though any of the standard models would do.
There's differences in the below images (barrel length, muzzle brake, pic rails, sights), but the base gun's the same. You could possibly mirror the two sides for the majority of the details - as they're designed to be ambidextrous (and most are too small to notice the difference at 28mm anyway - barring perhaps the charging handle).
Logged
Corporalslim
Student
Posts: 10
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #9 on:
May 10, 2020, 07:51:42 PM »
Shipways have a couple of IDF sets and additional sets of just Tavors but, as usual, they're not cheap.
Logged
Rich H
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 3232
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #10 on:
May 11, 2020, 12:16:31 AM »
How long do you want them?
Note this is important as heroic guns are far larger than 'scale'
Warlord's for example are by my calcs generally around 1:45 ish scale.
What I've done in the past is draw it so it's in proportion then scale it to suit.
Small things like the trigger, catches and the hand guard details are highly unlikely to print anyway.
Logged
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #11 on:
May 11, 2020, 12:41:49 AM »
Do you mean physically on the model? Going by Empress' figures their AK-74 is 1.8mm long (943mm), and Steyr AUG is 1.6 (790mm), so a CTAR-21 at 640mm would probably come out around 1.26mm long. Or there abouts.
Empress is what I'm using for most of my moderns. They're not "true-scale" like Spectre, or Heroic like The Assaut Group. They seem to be around 1/52nd, or a smidge bigger. Though its probably better, and simpler, to err on the larger side of things where necarry - for the sake of the gun's not being too short for potentially anatomy issues with any sculpts. You probably know more about how Empress scale things than me - though you may just stick to contracting for their vehicles.
With how short the barrels are at least breakages probably won't be so much of an issue as is a concern with the smaller scale guns out there. Really just a nub with a muzzle brake attached.
«
Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 12:44:23 AM by Wyrmalla
»
Logged
Rich H
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 3232
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #12 on:
May 11, 2020, 07:00:58 AM »
Do you mean 12.6mm or are you looking at 1:300!
I only do vehicles for now
Logged
Rich H
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 3232
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #13 on:
May 11, 2020, 11:29:42 AM »
Started on it before work. No pics yet but later
The barrels will be fragile, so it might be a case of overscaling them a bit.
The other thing I've done in the past is increase the xz scale by 20%. This makes them chunkier but not longer, it's not obvious. Can sort that in the slice and try both
Logged
Wyrmalla
Supporting Adventurer
Scatterbrained Genius
Posts: 2296
Re: 28mm IDF with Tavors?
«
Reply #14 on:
May 11, 2020, 03:25:47 PM »
Sorry, I meant foot. I thought we were talking about 1/1 scale here. I'm looking for reenactment props/ something to carry to look threatening when the power goes out and we're fighting over water in 1-2 weeks.
Have you designed guns before, or has it been all vehicles and artillery? There's good work in doing the masters for scale weapons from what I've heard.
Logged
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
4
Go Up
« previous
next »
Lead Adventure Forum
»
Forum
»
Miniatures Adventure
»
The Conflicts that came in from the Cold
(Moderator:
Westfalia Chris
) »
28mm IDF with Tavors?