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Offline Grumpy Gnome

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New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« on: June 13, 2020, 09:55:45 PM »
Just saw that Wargames Atlantic is planning to release Goblins this summer. These might go well with the aesthetic of Oathmark Goblins and Wargames Factory/Warlord Games Orcs. And it seems they plan on making them compatible with their Giant Spiders... although I would rather use them on Wargs, depending on their size.

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Offline Hobgoblin

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2020, 09:57:35 PM »
Those look good! Nice big heads, which is the feature of Tolkien's orcs that tends to go missing in modern interpretations:


Offline aliensurfer

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 10:33:08 PM »
Nice.

Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 03:47:43 AM »
Might look good on a wolf for my Middle Earth Gaming...


Offline Munindk

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 06:21:11 AM »
More bits for the box :)

Very much in the spirit of the times, people have no excuses not to have diversity in their goblin/orc hordes.

Offline Cubs

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 04:42:25 PM »
Tough to tell what the full set will be like, but I like what I see so far. The faces, the proportions and the kit look pleasing to me.
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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 05:23:20 PM »
Definitely interested in seeing the scale and sprue contents.  I've been keeping an eye on this company but haven't found something that I really need...more options are always good.
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Offline Davout

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 08:22:16 PM »
I like these a lot. I've got a growing goblin hoard made up of the old GW plastics. These should fit in well with my current figs.

I'm glad these are being released as I recognize the Oathmark goblins as being nice miniatures but they aren't to my taste style wise and don't fit in well with my current collection.   

Offline James Morris

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 08:36:19 PM »
I think these look like a great addition so far!  Look forward to seeing more renders.

Offline DoctorPete

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 08:46:07 PM »
These really fit my mental image of goblins.  Wargames Atlantic are releasing some nice sets.  :)
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Offline gisby

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 07:24:03 PM »
Those look good! Nice big heads, which is the feature of Tolkien's orcs that tends to go missing in modern interpretations:

Tolkein's orcs had big heads? That's a feature I missed too. What's your reference? (I'm not arguing, I just want to look it up!)

Offline Hobgoblin

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Re: New Goblins coming from Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2020, 10:19:49 PM »
Tolkein's orcs had big heads? That's a feature I missed too. What's your reference? (I'm not arguing, I just want to look it up!)

OK, first of all, it's a feature that's remarked upon in certain individual orcs:

The Great Goblin ('Over Hill and Under Hill', The Hobbit):

"There in the shadows on a large flat stone sat a tremendous goblin with a huge head, ..."

Ugluk or one of his comrades ('The Riders of Rohan', LotR):

"Upon a stake in the middle was set a great goblin head; upon its shattered helm the white badge could still be seen."

Grishnakh ('The Uruk-hai', LotR):

"Dimly they were aware of Grishnak's great head and hideous face between them; his foul breath was on their cheeks."

Azog (Appendix A of The Lord of the Rings):

"Thereupon Azog came forth, and he was a great Orc with a huge iron-clad head, and yet agile and strong."

There's also the orc-chieftain in Moria whose face is "broad".

Now, one might argue that these are distinguishing features of those individuals. But it is virtually every individualised orc in the first few books of LotR (and by the time we get to Shagrat and Gorbag, we've probably got a grasp of the orcish physique). But then there's this early draft of Sam and Frodo's adventures in Mordor, published in The Treason of Isengard:

"The black iron cap was too large for Sam (for orcs have large heads for their size), but he slipped on the mail. It hung a little loose and long."

By the time of Tolkien's published version of the episode, of course, Frodo can find one helmet that fits "well enough", but by then the presence of smaller orcs in Mordor has been established (who knows - perhaps to facilitate both the finding of the disguise and its effectiveness when Sam and Frodo join the Durthang line?).

In any case, the Treason of Isengard reference and all those individual big heads give a fairly clear impression.

 

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