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Offline Emir of Askaristan

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Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« on: October 17, 2020, 08:57:28 AM »
Hi, I'm working on a project where I need some Scots foot armed with jeddart staves or similar as opposed to other a typical halberd or bill.

I can find plenty of the latter but none of the other which is a typical Scottish weapon from the latter 1500's.

Any ideas in 28mm?


Offline AndyG

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 10:40:00 AM »
Hi

I’m not 100% sure if they are what you want but the Reiver Castings Scottish Wars range has packs with pole arms that are not traditional bills or halbards. I’m not a huge fan of Reiver Castings finding that like old glory they are a mix of the nice and the decidedly odd both in sculpting and posing but quite a few of the Scots are rather nice.

You can find them on the Northumbria painting services website.

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 11:28:26 AM »
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Offline v_lazy_dragon

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2020, 12:06:50 PM »
I have seen Scots border Reiver reenactors using glaives if thats an option?

The lochaber axe is a little later (1600s) I think, but if you dont mind artist licence Warlord Sells them separately in the Pike and shotte range
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Offline Emir of Askaristan

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 12:45:40 PM »
Thanks for the reply folks,

The lochaber axe does seem to be a later but the bardiche/glave would do.

I have some Reiver figures and the flodden stuff is quite nice but their other Border Reiver range is too small compared to the chunky foundry swashbucklers, D'arlo and Hoka hey/ex graven images figs.

These are for lowland foot for skirmishes in the Marian civil war and feuds in Aberdeenshire - Craibstone, Tillyangus, Corrichie

Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2020, 08:33:34 AM »
Happy to help. If you do go that rout. I hope that the fit with what you have planed.

Offline Emir of Askaristan

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2020, 07:05:19 AM »
Thanks.

For now am reviewing sources to work out who was equipped with what at Craibstone and Tillyangus. Also checking out 28mm peel towers and notes on Corgarff and Towie castles. (Possibly going with Caliver Battlefield buildings here)

For my foot I am going to work on this basis -

Retinue (ie raised by a lowland noble or city) - pike and caliver
Levy - (ie lowlanders called up in a hurry or from shire or villages) - polearms
Highland levy - clansmen
Fierce clan, household bodyguard, haunchmen, etc - Forlorn Hope
Skirmishing shot/bow - commanded shot
Mounted Scots - trotters

So at the moment Forbes men at Craibstone will be pike and shot with trotters whilst Gordons will be some retinue pike and shot, forlorn hope and some levy. Archers will also make an appearance. Forbes men were retinue troops from Lothian and the south and mounted gentleman. Gordon's were town troops plus his own men so a mix of levy, retinue and FH.

Tillyangus will be levy polearms, forlorn hope for the harder better equipped men and some skirmishing shot/bows. Both sides fielded men from their own households and surrounding rural lands but shouldn't be thought of as "highland clans".

Corgarff will be a what if with trotters and skirmishing forlorn hope Gordon's squaring up against some  very annoyed Forbes trotters, levy polearms and shot/bows trying to stop Adam burning down the house.

I plan on using Pikemans Lament with some borrowings from Lion Rampant as you can probably tell from the troop types. I've also tinkered with Victory without Quarter for when my son doesn't want to play!  lol

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Re: Later 16thC Scottish Polearms?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2020, 07:19:32 AM »
Sounds good to me. :D

 

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