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Author Topic: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?  (Read 3906 times)

Offline Von Stroheim

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Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« on: January 08, 2021, 01:21:41 AM »
Saw this clip on Youtube some suggest it is a film from the DDR seems quite big budget. Lots of detail Whippet tank etc.


Offline Panaldi

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 09:34:56 AM »
My first guess would be

„Die Münchner Räterepublik“
A west German TV production from 1971.

I‘ll try to check if I find it streamed somewhere to confirm.

Offline Metternich

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2021, 09:30:28 PM »
Wow.  They did not spare money on production values.

Offline Golgotha

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2021, 09:59:51 PM »
That is a great find see also this one

Offline has.been

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2021, 12:04:46 PM »
Interesting stuff guys. Thanks for posting.

Offline Metternich

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2021, 09:10:46 PM »
A bit of "poetic license" in the film, where they show an A7V tank being used by the Freikorps to suppress the Spartacists in Berlin.  No actual A7V was used in the fighting in Berlin.  There were two lightly vehicles (mild steel only, not the armor plate of the true AZV), built post-war on the chassis of two Uberlandeswagen (the unarmored cargo carrier tractor variant of the A7V, so these two vehicles did have the same silhouette as an A7V).  The giveaway is that the armored vehicle in the film has the forward-mounted sponson with the 57mm cannon - which it fires in the film.   However, the two post-war armored vehicles were only armed with machine guns (four each) and did not have the cannon.  I suppose a tank firing a main gun has more dramatic punch (pardon the pun).  For comparison, I have attached links below to photos of each of these vehicle types.

The first photo below shows one of these Freikorps A7V variants in use by the Freikorps:
 
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/4e/36/a94e3688f5fa1796955e38a8bc8880ce.jpg

The second photo shows a war-time A7V with the forward-mounted sponson 57mm gun:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/18/a4/32/18a432a590a4aa1cd0b17847fbeb2390.jpg

The third photo is of an unarmored Uberlandeswagen

https://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2018/04/a7v-sturmpanzerwagen-wwi-german-tank.html


https://military.wikia.org/wiki/A7V_heavy_tank

Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2021, 07:05:46 AM »
Cool, thanks for sharing. 
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Offline zebcook

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 02:45:07 AM »
It's "Ernst Thalman -- Son of His Class", East German 1954.  Youtube has the full movie in German. If you don't understand German, it is subtitled -- in Greek.  :?


Offline Von Stroheim

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2021, 01:16:12 PM »
Thanks.  Take it is Thalmann of Thalmann Brigade fame in the Spanish Civil War.

Offline Patrice

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2021, 08:00:09 PM »
Thanks for the link! I was a little rebuffed by the lyrics of the song in the first videos - which seem very politically intended. Now it seems the film itself was political on the other side.  lol

Offline FramFramson

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2021, 09:29:19 PM »
I kind of figured that was the case given it was released in the DDR. lol

Actually it's apparently famous as a crucial part of the DDR's hagiography of Thalmann and was required viewing for East German workers for years. There's more detail in the Wiki Article of the film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Th%C3%A4lmann_(film) which also mentioned there was a second part, concerning the events of 1930-33.

If you're still interested in watching it (the combat scenes are pretty much mostly what you see in the trailers), there's an option to auto-translate to English (or any other language). I mean, it's a Reds vs Reactionaries film and the history is very well-known (even if the film is, ah, massaging it), so I was getting the gist of it even in German, but the English subtitles aren't too bad.


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Offline Patrice

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2021, 10:55:37 AM »
i had a look at it, yes it's not too difficult to follow when you know some history. I avoid subtitles when I can, they prevent from trying to understand at least a few spoken words. Anyway the political vocabulary is roughly the same in all european languages. "Rosa ist tot" is not difficult to understand...

Offline Von Stroheim

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2021, 02:17:31 PM »
Very proletarian - taking out a HMG with a windowbox.

Offline has.been

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2021, 03:30:27 PM »
Quote
taking out a HMG with a windowbox.

Just a 'small plot' point  lol lol

Offline Patrice

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Re: Does anyone know name of this Freikorps film?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2021, 04:57:22 PM »
taking out a HMG with a windowbox.

These were real war terracotta Heavy WindowBoxes intended to fight Heavy Machine Guns. The modern, plastic, Light WindowBoxes they sell now wouldn't take out a LMG.  lol

 

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