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Offline rumacara

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Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« on: March 12, 2021, 10:33:17 PM »
Hello all

As if i havent nothing else to paint and convert i started another project of portuguese troops in africa in the 1890s.
Information is very scarce specially in images but i found some of a few troop types involved and am after some usefull figures.
For the infantry the closest i remember is FFL in shirts and i sculp the jacket.
The problem is with the cavalry.
Any help is welcome.

Thanks for watching

Rui
« Last Edit: March 12, 2021, 10:34:53 PM by rumacara »

Offline Ranthony

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2021, 11:34:15 PM »
Perry miniatures Sudan Egyptian Gendarmes, with a little filling of the hat may work.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/sb56-egyptian-cavalry-gendarmes-carbines-on-hip/

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2021, 11:41:49 AM »
Frank, good idea. Thank you.
And you made me find some others on the Perry website for other troop types. :)

Offline Diablo Jon

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2021, 12:15:12 PM »
The short answer if you are looking for the 1890s Portuguese is Eureka do a very small range of metropolitan infantry in slouch hat.

a longer answer on uniforms using my Peter Abbot book on colonial African armies is

Metropolitan units official uniform

pre 1892 - Brown uniforms and pickelhaube

post 1892 - Single breasted blue uniform scarlet/crimson facings for infantry and black/light blue for cacadores. Blue Kepi with white cover in the field. Light blue trousers with piping and black boots. equipment in black leather. A fatigure outfit in white brim was also supplied and frequently worn in the colonies. greatcoats could be worn bandolier fashion.

post 1895 - as above but grey felt slouch hats become common head dress (in Mozambique at least). A blue flannel blusa and blue grey breeches was common among cavalry in southern Mozambique

post 1900 - officers could wear khaki drill uniforms with sun helmets and troops revert to kepi and haverlock.

local indigena troops

Could look a lot less uniform the book has a picture of one that looks like a foundry Askari wearing a kepi and another in a uniform similar to the metropolitan troops but with knee length trousers and no shoes.

I made a couple of indigena troops for 1870s-1880s Mozambique using a foundry Askari and a Perry miniatures Paraguayan infantryman with Perry ACW coloured soldiers heads in kepi something similar in white uniform should work for the 1890s.







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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2021, 02:42:19 PM »
Diablo Jon, thank you for the tips. :)
The ones i´m planning are those illustrated above with some askari auxilia.
Plan is 4 to 6 cavalry, 8 regular infantry and the rest askari. A small column for Congo rules.
Also in use for another one only dismounted is some regulars, the rest being white farmers/volunteers and askari or other native auxilia.
The third one, all mounted, if the rules allow. :)

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2021, 05:42:54 PM »
Thinking outside the box a bit some of Wargames Foundry old west Mexicans could work as scruffy (and lets face it Europeans in Africa are likely to be a bit scruffy) Europeans in light kit.






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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2021, 05:57:00 PM »
Thank you Rui for posting those drawings of the Portugese colonial soldiers in Foreign Legion style attire.

The reason is I have a FFL force gathering dust as it lacks opposition (a terrible neglect on my part) but I now see I.could give them an outing and use them in a game with my Southern African forces.

Good luck with your project.

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2021, 08:32:56 PM »
Skirmisher, do please post some pictures of your miniatures.
I love to see other peoples miniatures and terrain. :)

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2021, 10:21:32 AM »
Its been a long while since I have posted a battle report... I am technologically jaded/challenged in this regard :)   ...though a friend has been pestering me to set up a blog and keep a record of my battles. A project for 2021...

Offline marco55

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2021, 03:23:15 AM »
This might help.  http://kingscarbine.blogspot.com/ 
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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2021, 08:35:15 PM »
Marco55 that will help for sure.
Many thanks.
And i forgot that Nuno Pereira did a lot of research.

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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2021, 11:25:49 PM »
Nuno is # 1 on this topic. :)
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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2021, 01:00:13 AM »
Some uniform charts.
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Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2021, 01:02:20 AM »
Some more.
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