SYW French Artillery

[archiduque]

Hi all!! I’ve painted some SYW French Artillery.I hope you like them!!








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Saludos
Rafa

[Jemima Fawr]

Absolutely lovely, as always!   

And unlike me, you got the colour of the guns right! 

[Arthur]

Top job as usual, Rafa.

The Black Hussar SYW figures do not appear much on wargames fora, so it's nice to see them for a change, especially painted to such a high standard.

[Emir of Askaristan]

Very nice.

Lovely figures too, good to see some gunners in their waistcoat.

[Hu Rhu]

Wonderful painting, well up to your usual standard. 

[Extrabio1947]

Beautiful brushwork.

I’m curious.  The French officer with the snuff box in the first photo....  Did BH ever fix the missing gaiter buttons on one side of the casting, or did you add them yourself? 

[Baron von Wreckedoften]

And unlike me, you got the colour of the guns right! 

From talking to Dr Stephen Summerfield, I always understood that gunners with red small clothes operated the Vallieres system guns (red woodwork), and hence were known as "les rouges".  Gunners with blue small clothes operated the Gribeauval system guns (blue woodwork) and were known as "les bleus".  This was true up until the post-AWI period, when all guns were briefly painted blue - not least because the older Vallieres guns were "given" to the Rebels; after that, the Revolutionary authorities had all guns repainted in the lamp black/ochre mix characteristic of the "Napoleonic" period.

Are you saying this isn't so?

[MaleGriffin]

Superb brushwork as usual!

[Jemima Fawr]

From talking to Dr Stephen Summerfield, I always understood that gunners with red small clothes operated the Vallieres system guns (red woodwork), and hence were known as "les rouges".  Gunners with blue small clothes operated the Gribeauval system guns (blue woodwork) and were known as "les bleus".  This was true up until the post-AWI period, when all guns were briefly painted blue - not least because the older Vallieres guns were "given" to the Rebels; after that, the Revolutionary authorities had all guns repainted in the lamp black/ochre mix characteristic of the "Napoleonic" period.

Are you saying this isn't so?

Kronoskaf disagrees: http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=French_Artillery_Carriages

[Baron von Wreckedoften]

Interesting.

[Arthur]

The Kronoskaf article - based on an original article by Jean Vial - is correct : les rouges and les bleus referred to the colour of the artillerymen's smalllclothes, not that of their gun carriages, which were all blue at the time regardless of whether they were the Vallière or the Gribeauval type. Blue smallclothes were introduced by the same 1765 ordinance which intended to replace the old guns with the new Gribeauval ordnance

None of this is relevant to the SYW however since Gribeauval's changes did not occur until after the end of the war, so Rafa's colour scheme is entirely correct for the 1756-1763 period.   

[Jemima Fawr]

The Kronoskaf article - based on an original article by Jean Vial - is correct : les rouges and les bleus referred to the colour of the artillerymen's smalllclothes, not that of their gun carriages, which were all blue at the time regardless of whether they were the Vallière or the Gribeauval type. Blue smallclothes were introduced by the same 1765 ordinance which intended to replace the old guns with the new Gribeauval ordnance

None of this is relevant to the SYW however since Gribeauval's changes did not occur until after the end of the war, so Rafa's colour scheme is entirely correct for the 1756-1763 period.

Absolutely!  I wish I'd read it before painting mine though...

[duc de limbourg]

As the guns were blue in the 7YW, when were they coloured differently?
I thought they stayed blue (or blue-grey) until the napoleonic period so eg in the French Revolution they were still the old colour

[Arthur]

French gun carriages had originally been painted red under Louis XIV but later switched to blue during the reign of Louis XV.   

[vtsaogames]

Absolutely!  I wish I'd read it before painting mine though...

Likewise:^(