West Wind Vampire Wars

[Mike D. Mc Brice]

You won't have any layout issues with Carpathia. The game mechanics are based on Supersystem and the old Chaos in Cairo etc games you might know already.

The game fluff is taken from the classic victorian horror novels. The rules include 4 warbands to choose from, Vampires, Werwolves, Monster Hunters and Treasure Hunters. A gang is made up of 5-20 models, average will be around 10ish.

It plays fast and bloody, if you are fmailiar with the rules less than 1 hour depending on forces and scenarios. Whilst charatcers can still take some damage a well aimed shot or a ferocious charge can take out a model instantly.

The game was made with a developing campaign system in mind and such a system is inluded in the rules. It works similliar to Mordheim, LOTOW and such. Mean you can raise some attributes, buy some new members and such after the game.

BUT whilst Mordheim etc is very boring without the campaign system as everything bought from the list is very basic this is NOT the case with Carpathia. The basic warbands give lots of choice in models and equipment so you can choose if you want to play one of games or campaigns.

I also like the fact that the game is tactically qinteresting because you have very specialised warbands, Werwolves i.e. are very specialised in close combat and if you let them charge the defenders are easily knocked out. On the other hand they are vulnerable to long ranged attacks over open ground.

I find the rules supperior to Chaos in Cairo in many ways and the gameflow is a bit better than Supersytem.

[The Travelling Man]

Thanks Mike- it sounds like exactly what I've been looking for.  Is there any plan to expand beyond the basic four warbands?  And does it feature sorcery (of the occult variety rather than D&D)?

cheers

TTM

[Mike D. Mc Brice]

Scott mentioned the plan of a Highwaymen release together with a pdf warband list on the website. I assume as long as people buy the rules and figures there could me more expansions.

I'd like a seperate Nosferatu plus slaves list and I'd also like a Holy Order list and maybe I'll sit down and write them up, but this would be my privat fun and not official.

As for sorcery there are no entries for witches in the rules and no spells or such things. I'm familair with the Vampire Wars Witchhunt scenarios which are rather cool (including the figures) but the setting is more 17th or 18th century. It would be a nice addition though.

[The Travelling Man]

Ta Mike.  All sounds good.  I'm sure doing the stats for a Nosferatu crew (I have eight of the WW miniatures on my shelf plus a couple of the lovely Fenryll resin Nosferatu to paint up) wouldn't be too much of a stretch and yeah I guess it's down to us horror gamers to support the rules.  And yes, a Witchunter expansion would rock.  Grafting something on from the likes of VW or Mordheim might work in regard to magic(k) anyway.

[fourcolorfigs]

We will be providing plenty of web-based support for CIC. Also, keep in mind we are working on Chaos In Cairo (2nd ed.) for a summer release. After that we will do Chicago (gangsters) and Tombstone (Westerns).

In the meantime, we have plenty to do to support the Blue Moon boxed sets. I have to take the one-sheet rules for the Holmes and Ripper box and re-work them into full-blown CIC stats for the web site, I also have to write-up the Highwaymen (which will include rules for mounted figures)--so we will be quite busy.

We hope to fill the Blue Moon site with a lot of value-added content.

Rules for magic attacks and spells would be quite easy to adapt from SuperSystem, but we could also write up some witchery rules for the site. I am quite fond of Solomon Kane (as you will see when you see the Highwaymen models), and I'd love to do rules to support witch-hunting.

Anyway, we start adding this content until CIC is released in May (fingers crossed). Thanks for your interest!

Scott

[cwchmc]

Sounds very interesting.
Hey, Scott. Not sure how much you wanna give away yet, but can you tell us if the Gangster and Western books are going to have weird/horror elements? Or are more traditional Gangster/Western skirmish games?

Chuck

[fourcolorfigs]

Chaos In Tombstone will definitely have strong supernatural elements, while Chicago may be more subtle, perhaps reflected only in a few special characters. We'll see.

Scott

[The Travelling Man]

Thanks Scott- looking forward to these even more.  Yes I'm a big Solomon Kane fan too so am intrigued by the Highwayman miniatures you mentioned- I'm assuming they could work as 18th century witchunters (although I have a pile from WW)?

Can you let us know here when/if we can preorder the rules too please?

Many thanks

TTM

[The Travelling Man]

Hi all

Just thought I'd post my imitial impressions of the Blue Moon boxes.  Received my four this morning- Werewolf, Vampire, Frankenstein and Jack the Ripper- and all I can say is wow!  

Sculpts are great and the detail really jumps out once you prime them.  The rules are also really good- each box comes with a fold out sheet with rules on one side (basic Goalsystem) and character stats on the other (and a basic painting guide).  

The only one I'm mildly disappointed by is the Jack the Ripper stats as it appears to be a more 'chase Jack around the table' than anything else- reckon easy enough to add a mechanism or two for hidden movement/uncover Jack (perhaps using my London Gents from WW?).

All in all, extremely positive, can't wait for the rules and more figures!

[fourcolorfigs]

Hi all


The only one I'm mildly disappointed by is the Jack the Ripper stats as it appears to be a more 'chase Jack around the table' than anything else- reckon easy enough to add a mechanism or two for hidden movement/uncover Jack (perhaps using my London Gents from WW?).

All in all, extremely positive, can't wait for the rules and more figures!

Glad you liked the stuff, travelling man! On the Ripper one-sheet, it was a tall order getting even that of much of a game onto the sheet. I promise he will be heard from again and fully fleshed-out on the Blue Moon web site once we get that going.

I have just finished writing stats for mounted models and carriages and a two part scenario for the Sleepy Hollow stuff for the site. This stuff will start showing up after Carpathia is released in May. Folks will need the Carpathia rules to really make use of the scenarios on the site, so no point posting them until then. Plus I want ot get them made into pretty PDF's for easy download.

Anyway, thanks for the comments! More to come!

Scott

P.S. Wait until you guys see the new Highwaymen! Very nice models!

Scott

[The Travelling Man]

Thanks Scott- I'm that pleased with the miniatures I'm working on the first set right now!  Are the character stats in the GQS very similar to the full blown version?  If so I think adding characters will be pretty straight forward?

No problem on Jack- already have some ideas for hidden movement and/or night time visibility (ala WW Vampire Wars)- but looking forward to the scenario.

Finally, any chance of seeing a sneak preview of the Highwaymen greens?  Sound exceptional.

Thanks again

TTM

[fourcolorfigs]

Are the character stats in the GQS very similar to the full blown version?  If so I think adding characters will be pretty straight forward?

Finally, any chance of seeing a sneak preview of the Highwaymen greens?  Sound exceptional.

Thanks again

TTM

Your welcome! The stats on the one-sheets will translate rouighly to the full-blown rules, but there will be some differences as more detail will be added.

We should have a sneak peak of some painted Highwaymen (on foot) soon. The mounted versions are being worked on right now. Each Highwayman in the initial release box will have a mounted and dismounted version.

Scott

[The Travelling Man]

Guys

Just noticed that OG have much better imagery of the WW line than WW do themselves (and no clicking and waiting on tiny JPGs).  Many are painted.

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=432

[zbyshko]

We will be providing plenty of web-based support for CIC. Also, keep in mind we are working on Chaos In Cairo (2nd ed.) for a summer release. After that we will do Chicago (gangsters) and Tombstone (Westerns).

perhaps - and i jest here mostly - to maintain the mnemonic CiC: Chaos in Cheyenne for the western.  :oops:

[fourcolorfigs]

We will be providing plenty of web-based support for CIC. Also, keep in mind we are working on Chaos In Cairo (2nd ed.) for a summer release. After that we will do Chicago (gangsters) and Tombstone (Westerns).

perhaps - and i jest here mostly - to maintain the mnemonic CiC: Chaos in Cheyenne for the western.  :oops:

Hah! That's a good one! We will try to preserve the "CIC" moniker where appropriate, but in this case, I think we're wedded to Tombstone for the setting.

Thanks!

Scott