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Offline Elk101

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2022, 06:14:18 PM »
It wasn't opening on my phone but it's easy enough to find:

 
http://miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=19&CategoryID=54&SubCategoryID=272


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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2022, 06:53:40 PM »
Do please try the link that Bythelee placed. Iit opens in my computer.
I edited the post so let me know if you can view it.

I still get a broken link. I went to:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Home.aspx

Then scrolled down to:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=19&CategoryID=54

and then select:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/MDSAI05.jpg
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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2022, 07:04:53 PM »
Back to Blitzkrieg and the Mighty Empires 3D sculpts. These look interesting. As I said, I will need to see them next to my figures to see.
The Mace men are my favorites because other ranges only have the big massive clubs, and they are fun to add into a group to add interest.

https://www.blitzkriegminiatures.com/tanks/Indian-Armoured-Macemen-Pack-28mm-p456224838


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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2022, 09:58:46 PM »
I have a small pile of Indians from The Miniature Company. Yours if you want them, but... I'm in the US.

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2022, 08:29:13 AM »
I have a small pile of Indians from The Miniature Company. Yours if you want them, but... I'm in the US.

Hi LeadAsbestos

I saw your note. I don't know how many more Indians I will paint, but I would like to see what "The Miniature Company" ones look like in person. Please let me know what you wish to give up and what your want for them and postage and we can make a deal. I like variety and I know some of their figures had a lot of character to them.
You can send me a PM on the board's My Message section.
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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2022, 08:39:38 PM »
I still find the resin Elephants from Vendel, now owned by the Thistle & Rose guys, to be very nice pieces. I think you have to reach out to the T&R guys thru their f'book page unless they have stood-up their new website.

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2022, 07:22:55 AM »
The Vendel now Thistle and Rose elephants were huge monsters in 2001. Now scale has crept up to them. They had nice crews that fit the models.
The elephants sadly are not in particularly dynamic poses. But they paint up nice. I added some bits from the Aventine to this old one.


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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2022, 07:34:48 AM »
Excellent model
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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2022, 07:36:36 PM »
I just noted that more models have been added to the Blitzkrieg website, making it a more complete range.

https://www.blitzkriegminiatures.com/tanks/Ancient-Indians-c130557756

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2022, 08:51:36 PM »
More to come, so I believe…

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2022, 11:52:02 AM »
I really like the Vendel-range of Indians although I have never seen any IRL.

I was sceptical about the Blitzkrieg ones at first (the hands are huge...) but they look better and better everytime I see them.

They are much cheaper than Vendel too! ::)

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2022, 03:12:00 PM »
This is a super useful thread, and I appreciate it greatly. 

I find the structure of ancient Indian armies to be very curios and hard to find a good representation of in tabletop games.
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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2022, 06:54:50 PM »
The Arthashastra, by Kautilya, (also known as Vishnugupta and Chanakya), has much of the known details. I made this chart for Slingshot magazine awhile back. Another great compilation of sources is the Chandragupta board game below:

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/26458/chandragupta

Chandragupta: Great Battles of the Mauryan Empire – India, 319-261 BC
Designer Richard H. Berg, Mark Herman, Alan J. Ray, Stephen R. Welch
GMT games.
The designer's notes includes a very complete description of troop types, divisions by social and caste status, and other hierarchies. Plus the scenarios are big, and almost all complete guesswork due to muddy or non existent sources.

I'm also currently working on a Seleucus I vs. Chandragupta scenario which is fun but a total fabrication.

« Last Edit: June 15, 2022, 06:56:25 PM by Jjonas »

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2022, 01:55:32 PM »
Lovely bit of painting on that elephant, Jeff.

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Re: Indian miniatures 28mm
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2022, 03:10:18 PM »
I had read somewhere The smallest tactical element was called a "Patti".  In theory, it was composed of a single elephant, a chariot, 3 horseman, and 5 infantry soldiers.  From there, these units were built up into larger forces in multiples of 3.
 
There was also something called a Vyuha.  This appears to be a combined arms military unit of about 5,000 troops.  The Vyuha has 5 sub-units that each unit had about 45 chariots, 45 elephants, 225 cavalry, 675 infantry men.  These Vyuha had various formations that they could adopt based on the tactical need of the army. 

I have always struggled with how to represent this formation on the table, as most wargames have units that are "single" style forces such as a Pike Block, or a Legion of heavy infantry, or a block of archers.  Meanwhile, the Indian model is much more "mixed" in their formations and intended to fight with combined arms as the focus. 

That said, The Mauryan Empires army was a professional force.  I am less sure how they were organized before the Successor period.  For example, the Persian Empire also had operations in the Indus Valley and had Satrapies in that area.  How were the local Indian troops of the region organized, was it very different from the later Mauryans?  My gut says yes, but I am unsure as I am not finding many sources on the topic in English.   

 

 

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