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Offline AlexanderTheOk

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16th Century Spanish Colonials
« on: August 07, 2023, 02:52:09 AM »
Small pike and shot formation with native allies. They’ll be defending against pesky renaissance corsairs raiding the Caribbean. Awesome figures by Khurasan - more updates to come!
« Last Edit: August 07, 2023, 02:56:54 AM by AlexanderTheOk »

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2023, 10:47:17 PM »
I really like those.  They look great

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2023, 10:54:50 PM »
Nicely done  :)
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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2023, 04:12:40 AM »
These look awesome.  Keep posting as you add to the painted collection.

Dan
PS.  In some cases the number of native allies was as much as 10 (or more) times the number of Spaniards.  That’s why the fall of the Aztec empire should be viewed more as a civil war (with a small number of foreign allies) than an invasion.
So much for the idea of Europeans steamrolling the poor peaceful locals.  :)
« Last Edit: August 10, 2023, 04:17:22 AM by Cacique Caribe »

Offline AlexanderTheOk

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2023, 02:14:38 PM »
Thanks, all! Spanish ordnance/mounted hidalgos are next. I'm thinking about posting a tutorial on how I paint my hidalgos.

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2023, 02:20:35 PM »
These look awesome.  Keep posting as you add to the painted collection.

Dan
PS.  In some cases the number of native allies was as much as 10 (or more) times the number of Spaniards.  That’s why the fall of the Aztec empire should be viewed more as a civil war (with a small number of foreign allies) than an invasion.
So much for the idea of Europeans steamrolling the poor peaceful locals.  :)

1000%. After all, Cortes's force was nearly annihilated by the Tlaxcalans very early on. If I ever get into the conquest of the Mexica/Yucatan peninsula I'll bulk up on native regulars. For now, I plan on exploring small engagements in la Florida/Hispaniola between colonists forces and corsairs. I do have quite a few natives painted up but they're based as scouts/auxiliaries.

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2023, 02:23:28 PM »
Nice work on these. Which rules are you planning to use them with?

Offline FierceKitty

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2023, 02:27:39 PM »
Looking good. Don't forget a few Cimaroons too!
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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2023, 05:21:26 PM »
Nice work on these. Which rules are you planning to use them with?

I purchased Irregular Wars a while back but I'm open to suggestions.

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2023, 05:29:15 PM »
Looking good. Don't forget a few Cimaroons too!

Cimaroons would be really cool. I think Grumpy 15mm has a Portuguese line with some African forces. 

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2023, 05:30:07 PM »
Very nice indeed

Offline FierceKitty

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2023, 01:13:52 AM »
Cimaroons would be really cool. I think Grumpy 15mm has a Portuguese line with some African forces.

They probably wouldn't look all that African any more, following a few years as slaves and then living wild in darkest America. I've used pirate figures for mine, just avoiding tricorns.

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2023, 02:47:44 AM »
If you look under Eureka Miniatures’ 28mm Conquistadores, Portuguese, you will find a close approximation of what Cimarrones looked like throughout most of the early Spanish Main:

https://eurekaminusa.com/collections/conquistadores-28mm-portuguese/products/100por13

And I would mix them with these runaway Indian slaves too, in the same horde or raiding party:

https://eurekaminusa.com/collections/conquistadores-28mm-portuguese/products/100por12

Or … you could draw a little inspiration from the Cimarrones I had painted up a few years ago, mostly from a Foundry “Renegades” range that didn’t get much popularity, and with a small mix of Black Tree Ethiopians too, with a few added helmets and shields from various sources:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9593487@N07/albums/72157600724909419/

Breakdown:
24 Foundry “Afro-Caribbean Renegades” (SB0-34) with mixed weapons
8 Black Tree Designs Ethiopians with mixed weapons (IA1196)
16 Foundry “Afro-Caribbean Renegades” (SB0-35) with bows
8 Foundry Darkest Africa Tribal Archers

Discussion:  http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=57635

Now, if only someone would come along and do something like that for 15mm …

Dan
PS.  Just found these when I happened to look up “Afro-Caribbean Renegades”:
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/products/sb034-afro-caribbean-renegades
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/products/sb035-afro-caribbean-renegade-archers
https://badgergames.com/shop/wargames-foundry/pike-shot-era/sea-dogs/wf-sb034-afro-caribbean-renegades/
https://badgergames.com/shop/wargames-foundry/pike-shot-era/sea-dogs/wf-sb035-afro-caribbean-renegade-archers/
https://miniset.net/sets/all/all/seadogs-and-swashbucklers
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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2023, 06:56:01 AM »
Cimaroons would be really cool. I think Grumpy 15mm has a Portuguese line with some African forces.

In the meantime, until someone releases 15mm figures similar to the awesome 28mm ones I cite above, these Khurasan Sudanese 15mm javelinmen and archers might do, if mixed in with other stand-ins.

https://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/west-sudanese.html

If the tribal swordsmen come with separate shields, they would work also, if you add round Spanish bucklers, adargas or small primitive shields of their own making.  The tip of their swords should be curved slightly to look like machetes.

They, of course, would be fighting AGAINST the Spanish, as allies to Indians, English, you name it.

Dan





« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 08:45:58 AM by Cacique Caribe »

Offline AlexanderTheOk

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Re: 16th Century Spanish Colonials
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2023, 02:23:34 PM »
Dan,
 
These are perfect. I 3d printed some warmaster swordsmen a while back - I'm thinking I can up the scale and scavenge the shields for these.

 

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