Author Topic: Submarines! (Read 7141 times)

General Roos · « **on:** November 08, 2009, 11:29:07 PM »

Hi!

I´m looking for a submarine for my cold war artic scenario(28mm). Does anyone know where I can find one?

Thanks!

former user · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2009, 11:43:34 PM »

ahm...
a bit unprecise I'm afraid Your request
You want a full size atomic submarine?
Resin? a kit?

there are some quite large kits that would work for an undersized one - search ebay
I don't know about resin casts

Westfalia Chris · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2009, 11:55:16 PM »

I´d think that modelling just a conning tower breaking through the ice would make an excellent compromise between necessary work, visual effect and "realism". Hammers did such a piece (and it looks great), but I cannot find the relevant thread right now (was re-posted recently, though).

Apart from that, given the fact that most modern subs have rather smooth lines, I´d consider it easier to make from, say, hard styrofoam (XPS) than a WW2 or earlier type; you could cut, carve and sand the main body and conning tower, then use a ballpen and ruler to scribe some panel lines, cover the whole thing in PVA glue or some non-solvent based filler and sand it to get it smooth.

As for kits, there are some resin subs available from Brigade Games. Both looking rather nice, but the large one is very "German" in its look, and both are pre-1945 only.

General Roos · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2009, 12:05:53 AM »

former user: Yes, I suppose I was a bit unprecise!

I´m looking for a full size atomic sub. I´m going to build an artic scene with a submarine trapped in ice.
Doesn´t matter if it´s a plastic kit or resin as long as it fits my 28mm figs.

Westfalia Chris: Yes, I´ve seen Hammers sub and it looks great. Making my own is one option but I rather buy one!

Thanks guys!

former user · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2009, 12:24:33 AM »

I apologize mattias, I only wanted to lure out more info

in that case - a full size atomic submarine is not available in 28 mm I'm afraid
this sounds more like a 2m long scenery
a cool idea anyway, with all the hatches, launch stations etc

I think I'd try to get some appropriate sewage tube and make the rest from styrofoam
a rather simple and easy shape

dexter · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2009, 02:39:20 AM »

here are some basic simensions for the
USS Nautilus (SSN-571)
The 1st nuclear powered sub and the 1st to complete a submerged journey across the North Pole.

Displacement:    2,980 tons light, 3,520 tons full, 540 tons dead
Length:    320 ft (97.5 m)
Beam:    28 ft (8.5 m)
Draft:    26 ft (7.9 m)
Complement:    13 officers, 92 men
Armament:    6 torpedo tubes

in 28mm it would be dam big ,and impressive

carlos marighela · « **Reply #6 on:** November 09, 2009, 06:50:13 AM »

Zveezda does a largeish range of Soviet nuke boats, all in 1/350. Too small to place next to your figures but if you wanted to dress the scene and put them in the background.

The nearest off the shelf sub I can think of size wise is the Revell 1/72 scale Gato. Not a nuke and a little small but Gato's continued to be used by various folk well in the post war period. One of them even carried the Regulus missile system.
Probably easy enough to make a new sail/conning tower for one.

If you do fancy making your own take heart and some inspiration from this maniac, he built himself a 1/72 scale Typhoon SSBN:

http://castlesimon.com/Projects/RCModelSubs/RussianTyphoon/PlansandInfo/tabid/61/Default.aspx

General Roos · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2009, 08:12:51 AM »

Thanks everyone!

Would 1/72 be a fitting scale if I bought a Revell kit from eBay?

Tsune · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2009, 09:20:44 AM »

Brigade makes a big one (WW2) very nice, but I don't if that is what you are looking for...

Gluteus Maximus · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2009, 09:43:47 AM »

Quote from: Mattias on November 09, 2009, 08:12:51 AM

Thanks everyone!

Would 1/72 be a fitting scale if I bought a Revell kit from eBay?

It's a common thing to use underscale ships in wargames, due to the sheer size of most of them if built to scale. There are many examples of ships/airships etc on this site, where the models are actually far too small to accurately depict the real thing, but they look "right" when on the table.

The only major downside of using a 1/72 model that I could see, would be the size of the hatches etc. If you can overcome/ignore that, then it should work splendidly

AKULA · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2009, 09:58:34 AM »

Quote from: carlos marighela on November 09, 2009, 06:50:13 AM

If you do fancy making your own take heart and some inspiration from this maniac, he built himself a 1/72 scale Typhoon SSBN:

http://castlesimon.com/Projects/RCModelSubs/RussianTyphoon/PlansandInfo/tabid/61/Default.aspx

Too small.

I was toying with making one of these, but it would have to be in 1/56th, which would make it a smidge over 10 foot long.

Doable though.

Maybe one day, particularly as its full designation was - Project 941 (Akula) - Typhoon Class

Back on topic - if you want a sub for a icy wastes game, just build the conning tower, and put some thin slabs of High desnity polysterene around it, to represent where it broke through the ice.