Titles and changes

[Cholmondely Percival IV]

Further to your latest tangential anecdote, I must offer a small correction. The semi-naked young ladies who used to grace the pages of The Sun - and subsequently some of its even less reputable imitators - were found on page 3, not 2. Or at least, so popular history records; obviously I have no personal experience in this area.

[vtsaogames]

I bow to your superior knowledge. It was back in the 70s that I helped out with unpacking the books. Perhaps too much cheer since then. 

[vtsaogames]

Further to your latest tangential anecdote, I must offer a small correction. The semi-naked young ladies who used to grace the pages of The Sun - and subsequently some of its even less reputable imitators - were found on page 3, not 2. Or at least, so popular history records; obviously I have no personal experience in this area.

Less reputable than the Sun? 

[Cholmondely Percival IV]

Indeed. The Daily Star stretched the definition of newspaper to its limit while The Daily Sport (owned by a porn magnate, I believe) made little pretence to be one. Apparently its sister publication The Sunday Sport was pornographic in all but name. I have no idea whether any of these titles are still in existence.

Speaking of titles, which we originally were, I wonder whether you or any other reader might be aware of that used by the somewhat scandalous and frequently incarcerated author Donatien Alphonse François.

 I’ll admit I didn’t until a few minutes ago but I am more than happy to share the information.

[vtsaogames]

I suspected you meant the Marquis but had to go and Google it. He was one of the few prisoners freed at the Bastille.

[Cholmondely Percival IV]

Yes, De Sade, of course. I just happened to come across some lines of his forming the epigraph of a novel set during his life, though not about him.

[Cholmondely Percival IV]

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[vtsaogames]

For anyone whose appetite for a title has been whetted by this discussion, there has never been a better time to take your first steps into the nobility. For a limited time there is 50% off at highlandtitles.com. (Terms and conditions apply, seat in the House of Lords not included.)

 

[Sunjester]

It happens in other periods too. 

I had to research who John of Gaunt, as mentioned in English, was in the HYW.
Found he was the “Duc de Lancastre“ as French old books and historians always call him – and they were never trying to make any difference with other Dukes bearing the same title. So we have the Duke de Lancastre doing many different things at different times in different places and he is never the same one. 

That's a fairly standard problem dealing with medieval English gentry/nobility, especially as first names are often repeated over the generations. For example ,three Dukes of Somerset fought and died for the Lancastrian cause during the Wars of the Roses, two of them were called Edmund.