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Re: BSC McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #15 on: 26 January 2025, 05:32:49 PM »
I think there is a joke here about the carrot, the stick and finishing entries in time but I'm more concerned what to build :)

The carriage would be relatively easy and I could finish it on time even with painting it. So it's out  lol (I reserve it for a possible next BSSC  ;) )

The manufacturing conveyor belt idea for Necromunda should be the better choice as it offers more opportunities to build stuff. But it still feels like it lacks something...
However I got this brilliant idea the other day, when I remembered the part in Attack of the Clones with the droid factory on Geonosis.
All those great hanging conveyors... I can do that. For the Imperial Munitorum Armoured Container  :D

I can use 3 of my Pringels tube stock for supports or make two supports and do a wall section (similar to my Wall Motel) where it disappears into the hive. I already cut the base materials for two other wall sections back then, but the project got on hold since...

Now should I do a cablecar style system or one with rigid rails?

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Re: BSC McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #16 on: 26 January 2025, 06:23:33 PM »
Cable car is more modular - you can move the towers and keep the cable separate, but a fixed system would let you build a walkway on top for fun gaming possibilities.

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« Reply #17 on: 27 January 2025, 01:10:23 PM »
Yeah that is what I was thinking as well. I will check the local hardware store to see what kind of strings they have that I could use for cables.
One thing that worries me about the cable option is, how to manage cable tension with the desire to make it modular. Also the towers will need some serious weight at the bottom so the weight of the container doesn't pull them down.
With the fixed rail option, a lot of these problems don't come up.

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Re: BSC McMordain's Imperial MAC Conveyance
« Reply #18 on: 27 January 2025, 01:41:23 PM »
I will check the local hardware store to see what kind of strings they have that I could use for cables.
One thing that worries me about the cable option is, how to manage cable tension with the desire to make it modular.

Rather than string why not use a rigid "cable"?  Options might be piano wire or wood dowel, depending on how thick you want.  It avoids having to keep any kind of tension.

This forum topic may help (apart from the Photobucket problem): https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35958.70



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Re: BSC McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #19 on: 31 January 2025, 09:55:39 AM »
Would it be against the rules to finish my 2017 entry?

Not quite along the rules as stated I believe, but that was a pretty nice build and I would love to see it finished some day  8)

But depending on the length you want the cables to span, it might be the best solution to go with something rigid instead of an actual cable/string/rope. Me personally would go with steel rod for this; plenty of strength and rigidity, and it can be subtly bent to simulate the weight of the cable in scale too...
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Re: BSC McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #20 on: 31 January 2025, 11:04:30 AM »
About the materials, I found out the other day that the 6 mm steel cable is only a bit more expensive, than 6 mm nylon string (per meter).
So it would be possible to use actual cables lol
But I decided to make the rigid rail version.... sometime in the future.

Sadly I had to re-evaluate my plans, as February and March will be very busy at work, and I had to adjust my lifestyle do to health issues as well, which means I'm mentally and/or physically exhausted when I get home. Also two of the four Saturdays in February already booked for stuff so even my weekends are short for this.

All this means I decided against doing a big project, because I'm sure with the current conditions I will not be able to finish it.  :(

However I'm utterly unwilling to drop out even before the start, so back to the carriages I go   :D I'm sure I can make those complex enough to barely finish it on time  lol
I will do some sketches and see what materials I will need to get on Sunday. I know I have to get some simple horses and an ox or two for pulling the carts.

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Re: BSC McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #21 on: 31 January 2025, 08:18:41 PM »
Sadly I had to re-evaluate my plans, as February and March will be very busy at work, and I had to adjust my lifestyle do to health issues as well, which means I'm mentally and/or physically exhausted when I get home. Also two of the four Saturdays in February already booked for stuff so even my weekends are short for this.

All this means I decided against doing a big project, because I'm sure with the current conditions I will not be able to finish it.  :(

However I'm utterly unwilling to drop out even before the start, so back to the carriages I go   :D I'm sure I can make those complex enough to barely finish it on time  lol
I will do some sketches and see what materials I will need to get on Sunday. I know I have to get some simple horses and an ox or two for pulling the carts.

Here's hoping you can get something done. I'm dealing with health challenges myself right now - been off work for a few months.

You could do a post-apoc scene - have your horses pulling an old cable car

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Re: BSC McMordain's Carriages
« Reply #22 on: 02 February 2025, 04:50:40 PM »
Here's hoping you can get something done. I'm dealing with health challenges myself right now - been off work for a few months.

You could do a post-apoc scene - have your horses pulling an old cable car

I hope so too :D

I like the horse driven cable car idea, but sadly it does not fit any of my current games.

On the other hand, not much was done today. I was just searching for inspiration on the web.
I remembered there was a tax carriage in the Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie, so watched the relevant part and took some screenshots.




It was hard to get a good pic, but the above are good enough. I want to make something similar. This would work as a noble's or tax collector's carriage.



Tried to get a pic of Friar Tuck's carriage as well. I like the look of it and it would go well with last years vineyard.  :)

Also I bought some 5mm x 5mm pine strips for the structure and got my box of wood materials for the rest. I will make some plans later today and start the actual build tomorrow.

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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #23 on: 06 February 2025, 10:13:16 PM »
I started to build a base for the carriage body but it become apparent quickly that for the proper shape I first need to make the undercarriage. So wheels...
I tried to make one.



It didn't work out... and made me realize I don't want to make wheels. I searched for options among my collection of stuff, but all I could find were Warhammer ones, and they are to fantasy for what I have in mind. I could buy wheels, but then I could by a whole kit as well. And it turns out I already did that, as I found not one but two Sarissa carriage kits in my drawers... This totally killed my motivation.

Sooo back to square one o_o

I'm not sure what to build (again), but have some ideas. It will have to do something with flying and pirates probably.
I will look around my junk too see what can I use. I will report back on Sunday.

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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #24 on: 06 February 2025, 11:02:05 PM »
I started to build a base for the carriage body but it become apparent quickly that for the proper shape I first need to make the undercarriage. So wheels...
I tried to make one.

It didn't work out... and made me realize I don't want to make wheels. I searched for options among my collection of stuff, but all I could find were Warhammer ones, and they are to fantasy for what I have in mind. I could buy wheels, but then I could by a whole kit as well. And it turns out I already did that, as I found not one but two Sarissa carriage kits in my drawers... This totally killed my motivation.

Sooo back to square one o_o

I'm not sure what to build (again), but have some ideas. It will have to do something with flying and pirates probably.
I will look around my junk too see what can I use. I will report back on Sunday.

That wheel will make an excellent ruined wheel for later. But I hear you, motivation can be hard sometimes

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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #25 on: 06 February 2025, 11:18:43 PM »
It didn't work out... and made me realize I don't want to make wheels. I searched for options among my collection of stuff, but all I could find were Warhammer ones, and they are to fantasy for what I have in mind. I could buy wheels, but then I could by a whole kit as well. And it turns out I already did that, as I found not one but two Sarissa carriage kits in my drawers... This totally killed my motivation.

Warbases might be able to help out if you don't want to raid the Sarissa carriages for their wheels: https://warbases.co.uk/product/cart-wheels-28mm-scale/




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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #26 on: 06 February 2025, 11:22:18 PM »
Warbases might be able to help out if you don't want to raid the Sarissa carriages for their wheels: https://warbases.co.uk/product/cart-wheels-28mm-scale/


This would have been my suggestion too as they are always handy to have in the bits box. 
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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #27 on: 07 February 2025, 12:03:25 AM »
There's also a tonne of wheels on thingiverse you can get for free if you have a 3D printer

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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #28 on: 07 February 2025, 06:48:06 AM »
You could go with a non-spoked wheel, something more primitive. Or maybe build a wheel wrights.
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Re: BSC 2025 McMordain's Vessel or Conveyance TBD
« Reply #29 on: 07 February 2025, 12:41:43 PM »
Those Warbase wheels indeed look good. I will order one or two among some other things, there are other stuff on their site that I could use for my projects. Incidentally I looked at some of their carraige options but I missed the wheels.

I don't have a 3D printer but I know a guy I can ask for some stuff if needed. However I don't like to work with resin, I try to avoid it If I can.

The carriage form the Robin Hood movie has solid wheels, and that would certainly be easier, but I lost all my drive for carriages at the moment.

 

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