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Offline Calvin59

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Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« on: 24 May 2025, 01:48:18 PM »
To continue my research and then bring this conflict and its battles to life. I would like to know which regiments from both nations fought, and which battles they fought.
Thank you in advance for your help.  ;)

Offline George1863

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2025, 02:20:32 PM »
Nafziger can give you the Swedish army in April,1814 and the Danish army in Norway in July, 1814. Napoleon-series.org website is a little more specific about some engagements (Rakkestad, for instance). I am ashamed to admit that this theatre of Napoleonic warfare has largely passed my (mainly bc I despise Bernadotte, lol).

Offline Ben Waterhouse

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #2 on: 24 May 2025, 03:40:20 PM »
Nafziger can give you the Swedish army in April,1814 and the Danish army in Norway in July, 1814. Napoleon-series.org website is a little more specific about some engagements (Rakkestad, for instance). I am ashamed to admit that this theatre of Napoleonic warfare has largely passed my (mainly bc I despise Bernadotte, lol).

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Offline Calvin59

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #3 on: 24 May 2025, 03:53:35 PM »
Thank you, George1863, for your information, which I will look into. I became interested in this theater of Napoleonic war after reading a bibliography on Bernadotte, which discusses these various conflicts between the Danes/Norwegians and the Swedes.
May I ask why you despise Bernadotte?  ;)

Offline George1863

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2025, 04:47:21 PM »
Well, a Jacobin who became a monarch.... the dog that bit the hand that fed him.... good general but a man of flexible principles where personal aggrandisement is concerned. I feel more empathy with simple honest men, who may be lesser generals, such as Ney. You can make your own judgement about his failure to support Davout at Jena, but it's harder to justify his acceptance of the Swedish crown in 1810 were it not for an almighty ego that demanded that somewhere, on some stage, he would prove the equal of the Corsican. I am sure he had his reasons but I would not identify them as pure.

Btw, I don't want to knock anyone's opinion different from mine. Over 30 years of adult life I hope we all change our opinions. But it is a stretch for a convinced republican to accept a crown.

Offline Swampking

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #5 on: 24 May 2025, 05:36:24 PM »
According to Terje H. Holm's Med Plotons! Hoire-Sving! Marsch! Marsch!: Norsk taktikk og stridsteknikk pa begynnelsen av 1800-tallet, med hovedvekt lagt pa fotfolket (Akerhus-Oslo, Forsvarsmuseet, 1991), below are the following engagements in the 1814 campaign:

Lier, 2nd August
Matrand and Skotterud, 5th August
Ingedal, 3rd August
Rakkestad, 6th August
Lagenes and Kjolberg, 9th and 14th August

You'll have to give me a few days to get the orbats and collate them with the Swedish sources I have. Rakkestad was by far the biggest engagement, although Lier saw the Norwegian Akershuske Mtd. Jagers conduct a charge (a rare thing in the history of the Norwegian-Swedish wars). All of these engagements would be considered skirmishes if you compare them to most Napoleonic battles.


« Last Edit: 24 May 2025, 06:17:50 PM by Swampking »

Offline Calvin59

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #6 on: 24 May 2025, 08:21:24 PM »
Thank you, Georges 1863, for giving your opinion on Bernadotte. It is true that he began his military career under the monarchy and that the revolution allowed him to climb the social ladder more quickly. But I do not want to enter into a discussion here because it is true that the book I read about his life was written by an Englishman, and therefore one can imagine that he gives him reasons for his acceptance of the Swedish crown.  ;)

Offline Calvin59

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #7 on: 24 May 2025, 08:58:07 PM »
Thank you Swampking for your response and the research you are going to do.  ;)

Offline vodkafan

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #8 on: 26 May 2025, 09:37:11 PM »
You have got me interested especially if the battles are not too large.
What are the uniforms like?
I am going to build a wargames army, a big beautiful wargames army, and Mexico is going to pay for it.

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Offline traveller

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #9 on: 27 May 2025, 08:00:24 AM »
You have got me interested especially if the battles are not too large.
What are the uniforms like?

The Swedish army had the m/1810 uniform. Which typically looke like this:



Miniatures available from Steve Barber and Eagle Miniatures:

https://www.stevebarbermodels.com/store/Swedish-Napoleonic-c88768729
https://eaglefigures.co.uk/28mm-napoleonic-swedes/infantry/

I used some Perry Swedes for this period even if they had the earlier m1807 uniform. Depending on the pose and the equipment it is hard to see if the coat has one or two lines of buttons

The Norwegians are also available from Perry. A typical uniform:



David Wilsons excellent books, available from Perry has all the uniforms for Denmark and Norway

« Last Edit: 27 May 2025, 08:16:44 AM by traveller »

Offline Calvin59

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #10 on: 27 May 2025, 12:06:26 PM »
Thank you for the information you provide.  ;)

Offline Gribb

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #11 on: 27 May 2025, 09:28:54 PM »
From the Norwegian side, I know that the Opplandske Infanteriregiment played a prominent role in the fighting and was present at Langnes. If I was painting figures for this war they would be first on my list for the Norwegians.
« Last Edit: 31 May 2025, 09:13:56 AM by Gribb »

Offline Swampking

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #12 on: 28 May 2025, 07:08:13 AM »
Hey Gents,

Before I start posting info, I would like to know how detailed y'all want the info. I have 4 books that I can consult, the aforementioned book by Terje Holm and:

J. Mankell, Falttaget i Norge ar 1814: Kritisk Belysning (Stockholm, 1887)
G. Bjorlin, Kriget i Norge 1814 (Stockholm, 1893
D. Schnitler (Oberstloitnant), Blade af Norges Krigshistorie (Kristiania, 1895)

Schnitler is by far the most detailed. It'll take some time to type in the info but if you want it down to the company level, it's up to y'all. The translation will take a bit of time unless I use Google translate but I don't want to waste people's time with useless information and minutae that wouldn't affect gameplay.

Let me know and I'll get started ASAP!


Offline traveller

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #13 on: 28 May 2025, 08:05:57 AM »
Hey Gents,

Before I start posting info, I would like to know how detailed y'all want the info. I have 4 books that I can consult, the aforementioned book by Terje Holm and:

J. Mankell, Falttaget i Norge ar 1814: Kritisk Belysning (Stockholm, 1887)
G. Bjorlin, Kriget i Norge 1814 (Stockholm, 1893
D. Schnitler (Oberstloitnant), Blade af Norges Krigshistorie (Kristiania, 1895)

Schnitler is by far the most detailed. It'll take some time to type in the info but if you want it down to the company level, it's up to y'all. The translation will take a bit of time unless I use Google translate but I don't want to waste people's time with useless information and minutae that wouldn't affect gameplay.

Let me know and I'll get started ASAP!

Great! It would be very interesting to see the OOB for different battles from Schnitler. Maybe you can just take photos of the relevant pages and post here?

Offline Calvin59

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Re: Swedish-Norwegian War in 1814
« Reply #14 on: 28 May 2025, 08:49:27 AM »
Thank you all for participating in this thread.  ;)

 

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